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Another error in Only Fools is in the episode ''As One Door Closes'' in which they chase a £3000 butterfly around the graveyard and local park.  As the butterfly is on the lillypad on the pond Del and Rodney arrive in what looks like cold dank damp weather. The ground is all wet, the sky is grey and you can see their breath in the cold air. Then as Rodney gets pushed in the weather is suddenly sunny and dry.  You plonker John Sullivan!
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap
 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
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Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:



They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

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Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap

 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
The Brirish Soldier Jim McDonald..... not exactly Seamus ui Murchu who listened to the tones on a cassette player in his bedsit as he wired a mercury tilt switch...
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:



They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

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Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap

 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
The Brirish Soldier Jim McDonald..... not exactly Seamus ui Murchu who listened to the tones on a cassette player in his bedsit as he wired a mercury tilt switch...
 
Indeed but he was the first Irish accent I remember hearing on TV as a kid well bar the chap who did This is Your Life and Wogan.All the producers in those shows had to do was have a stroll around Manchester & London.
Every second person I meet in Manchester is of Irish decent.
 
We are an amazing nation the Irish in Britain are what I call the real Irish always more passionate about their nation then the ones who remained in the motherland - look at what was produced McGowan,Rotten and Johnny Maher(Marr) all of Irish stock all who changed the shape of British music.
 
 
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Another error in Only Fools is in the episode ''As One Door Closes'' in which they chase a £3000 butterfly around the graveyard and local park.  As the butterfly is on the lillypad on the pond Del and Rodney arrive in what looks like cold dank damp weather. The ground is all wet, the sky is grey and you can see their breath in the cold air. Then as Rodney gets pushed in the weather is suddenly sunny and dry.  You plonker John Sullivan!
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Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:



They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

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Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap

 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
The Brirish Soldier Jim McDonald..... not exactly Seamus ui Murchu who listened to the tones on a cassette player in his bedsit as he wired a mercury tilt switch...
 
Indeed but he was the first Irish accent I remember hearing on TV as a kid well bar the chap who did This is Your Life and Wogan.All the producers in those shows had to do was have a stroll around Manchester & London.
Every second person I meet in Manchester is of Irish decent.
 
We are an amazing nation the Irish in Britain are what I call the real Irish always more passionate about their nation then the ones who remained in the motherland - look at what was produced McGowan,Rotten and Johnny Maher(Marr) all of Irish stock all who changed the shape of British music.
 
 
Not a fan of Morrissey? Smile


Not to mention the Gallagher brothers/Kate Bush/Paddy Mcaloon/Kevin Rowland/Boy George/ Pete Doherty/ and those other lads Lennon,McCartney and Harrison

and David Bowie who's mother was a certain Peggy Burns.
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Not to forget a certain Mary Bernadette O'Brien. AKA Dusty Springfield.
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Another error in Only Fools is in the episode ''As One Door Closes'' in which they chase a £3000 butterfly around the graveyard and local park.  As the butterfly is on the lillypad on the pond Del and Rodney arrive in what looks like cold dank damp weather. The ground is all wet, the sky is grey and you can see their breath in the cold air. Then as Rodney gets pushed in the weather is suddenly sunny and dry.  You plonker John Sullivan!
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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:



They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

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Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap

 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
The Brirish Soldier Jim McDonald..... not exactly Seamus ui Murchu who listened to the tones on a cassette player in his bedsit as he wired a mercury tilt switch...
 
Indeed but he was the first Irish accent I remember hearing on TV as a kid well bar the chap who did This is Your Life and Wogan.All the producers in those shows had to do was have a stroll around Manchester & London.
Every second person I meet in Manchester is of Irish decent.
 
We are an amazing nation the Irish in Britain are what I call the real Irish always more passionate about their nation then the ones who remained in the motherland - look at what was produced McGowan,Rotten and Johnny Maher(Marr) all of Irish stock all who changed the shape of British music.
 
 
Not a fan of Morrissey? Smile


Not to mention the Gallagher brothers/Kate Bush/Paddy Mcaloon/Kevin Rowland/Boy George/ Pete Doherty/ and those other lads Lennon,McCartney and Harrison

and David Bowie who's mother was a certain Peggy Burns.
 
Absolutely we built and rocked the place!
 
Morrissey no but I take your point - I could relate more to Maher a musician who loved football.
 
TBH I rather Hull with it's musical flair.
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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:

Not to forget a certain Mary Bernadette O'Brien. AKA Dusty Springfield.


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There was a Irish painter and decorator,Brendan O'Shaughnessy who played a cracking part in an episode. Anyone know who he was?


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There was a Irish painter and decorator,Brendan O'Shaughnessy who played a cracking part in an episode. Anyone know who he was?


David Jackson, a Scouser, played O'Shaughnessy in that episode.
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Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:



They are after censoring bits of it now. For example, there's a scene when Rodney says the packie short changed him, that's gone.

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Thats pretty stupid as they take the piss out of everything. There's loads of paddy references in it but who'd be offended by that in a comedy. There'll always be some prick moaning about these things. 

As Billy Connolly said before that "political correctness is the language of cowards" Clap

 
John Sullivan was of Irish stock his Irish father John Snr was a plumber there's references to the Irish - holidays in Donegal(not sure if his Dad was from Donegal) and the Irish builder in one episode.
 
It's incredible when you think during the same period in the 70's & 80's given the amount of Irish in England there was no real Irish characters in Coronation Street or Eastenders especially given the amount of Irish in both cities.
Maybe the troubles were a factor not fashionable to be Irish in England during those years.
 
Jim McDonald arrived on the street in 1989 by then the Irish were building and tearing England down for years.
 
John Sullivan was a genius RIP.
The Brirish Soldier Jim McDonald..... not exactly Seamus ui Murchu who listened to the tones on a cassette player in his bedsit as he wired a mercury tilt switch...

 
Indeed but he was the first Irish accent I remember hearing on TV as a kid well bar the chap who did This is Your Life and Wogan.All the producers in those shows had to do was have a stroll around Manchester & London.
Every second person I meet in Manchester is of Irish decent.
 
We are an amazing nation the Irish in Britain are what I call the real Irish always more passionate about their nation then the ones who remained in the motherland - look at what was produced McGowan,Rotten and Johnny Maher(Marr) all of Irish stock all who changed the shape of British music.
 
 
Not a fan of Morrissey? Smile


Not to mention the Gallagher brothers/Kate Bush/Paddy Mcaloon/Kevin Rowland/Boy George/ Pete Doherty/ and those other lads Lennon,McCartney and Harrison

and David Bowie who's mother was a certain Peggy Burns.

 
Absolutely we built and rocked the place!
 
Morrissey no but I take your point - I could relate more to Maher a musician who loved football.
 
TBH I rather Hull with it's musical flair.
It's been a life of fulfilment since my milkman passed me a Beautiful South album along with two pints of milk.
I incorporated the PD Heaton Gospel which featured a world of Alcohol,Socialism and Dominos....
 
I'm not really into star signs or palm reading once I've got monies for one more beer I'm happy out!
 
Anyway Red is the colour of farewell off for a Friday evening jar........
 
 
 
 
 

Well I agree with the gist of your post, Heaton was born in Cheshire, grew up in Sheffield, spent his formative music years in Surrey and lives in Salford. He only went to college in Hull!
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There were plenty of Irish on British TV in the 70's/80's ;

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

There were plenty of Irish on British TV in the 70's/80's ;

Dave Allen
Val Doonican
Terry Wogan
Eamon Andrews
 
Indeed but I'm talking soaps there should have been Irish lads in the rovers return supping pints talking life on the site and having a sing song.
Same in Eastenders - we rebuilt the place after the War now some are living in doss houses a forgotten generation with not even the monies for the boat fare home.
 
Who could relate to Val Doonican and his sweaters?Wink
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Originally posted by Gashley Grimes Gashley Grimes wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

There were plenty of Irish on British TV in the 70's/80's ;

Dave Allen
Val Doonican
Terry Wogan
Eamon Andrews
 
Indeed but I'm talking soaps there should have been Irish lads in the rovers return supping pints talking life on the site and having a sing song.
Same in Eastenders - we rebuilt the place after the War now some are living in doss houses a forgotten generation with not even the monies for the boat fare home.
 
Who could relate to Val Doonican and his sweaters?Wink
Eastenders and Ireland don't have a great history. I remember as a young fella they had episodes in Ireland and it ended badly.

The episodes were not well received by viewers or the media. The BBC and the programme makers were heavily criticised for the stereotypical way they portrayed Irish people.[7] Viewers were angered by scenes that they felt portrayed Irish as resentful towards English, drunk, dirty, poor and rude – one scene showed a drunk man pouring beer over Pauline Fowler (later revealed to be her brother-in-law), and then demanding payment for the drink.[7] Others were angered by the scriptwriters' decision to include various farm animals in a street scene on the outskirts of Dublin, with one viewer commenting to the Daily Mirror: "It was nothing like life in the real Ireland of today. When did you last see a donkey walking along our streets? The EastEnders production team haven't got a clue about modern Irish society; they are living in the Dark Ages."[2][7]

The BBC and RTÉ (the Public Service Broadcaster of Ireland) received complaints from angry Irish people all over Britain and Ireland, and it was reported that viewers "bombarded" local and national radio stations, claiming the episodes were an insult to Irish people everywhere.[7][8] Callers to Radio Ulster's Talkback programme and Gerry Ryan's morning talk show on RTÉ radio, demanded that the scriptwriters be sacked. BBC contributor Mike Philpott described the show as "the worst case of stage 'Oirish' seen for a long time" and "one of the most shameful half-hour episodes in the history of British television".[8]

The angry reaction stretched from official channels, such as the Irish Embassy, to holiday chiefs, who feared that the episodes would have a negative effect on tourist trade.[8][9] The Irish Embassy in London said, "[EastEnders] has caused a great deal of upset and annoyance in the country [Ireland] and with Irish people in Britain."[7]Furthermore, they suggested that the episodes "presented a prejudiced and stereotyped view of Ireland that [was] utterly unrecognisable."[7] Ted Barrington, Ireland's ambassador to the UK, described the portrayal of Ireland as an "unrepresentative caricature", stating he was worried by the negative stereotypes and the images of drunkenness, backwardness and isolation.[10] He added, "EastEnders is a powerful and very concentrated medium … People are upset at the caricature and misrepresentation of Ireland. Irish people can laugh at themselves but, the point is, this is one of the most popular programmes on British television, and it decided to present an image of Ireland that conforms to old-fashioned negative stereotypes. It selected an unrepresentative range of stereotypes. Cultural and racial stereotyping tends to create barriers between people."[10]


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This has supposedly never been on TV before. I seen it years ago. A lot of hype over nothing.

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