The Decline of the EPL

Green Devil wrote: SuperDave84 wrote: And Liverpool are 13/2 to be eliminated at the group stage with Skybet, so I don't know where you got the 1/10 from. I can't see anyone else offering the market on oddschecker. You realize betting isn't simply twisting the figure around for one option and another? I.E. Liverpool to qualify 1/10 - Liverpool not to qualify 10/1

Of course. They take a margin on both. I'm not an idiot.

Look, Liverpool could easily need a result on the last day. That's not easy qualification or boring.


Edited by SuperDave84 - 27 Sep 2017 at 11:04pm

Green Devil wrote: SuperDave84 wrote: The point is Liverpool may need some manner of result in the last game. That doesn't quite tally with Baggio's initial post. No matter the opponent, that always has the potential to be nervy, rather than easy or boring. There's a good chance of at least two of the English sides needing a result on the last day. All 4 English sides will qualify, you can bookmark this

I suggest you get your abacus out.

United.
City.
Liverpool.
Chelsea.
Spurs.

I'm not saying they won't either. I'm just saying it's a bit much to say it's all easy or boring.

And even if Liverpool get six against Maribor and Sevilla get six against Spartak, it's hardly a stretch to see Liverpool losing away to Sevilla and Spartak beating Maribor at home, meaning Liverpool absolutely need a draw in the last game.

Wow apologies for making a mistake............

Edited by Green Devil - 27 Sep 2017 at 11:16pm

I don't think they aren't capable of beating Sevilla away. Don't twist my words. I never said that. I said it's not a stretch to see Liverpool losing to Sevilla. That is very, very different.

I also think Liverpool will indeed qualify; I haven't said that I think they won't. I just don't think it's *guaranteed*, or that it'll *necessarily* be easy or boring, particularly if they need a point on the last day, which well they might. If Liverpool and Sevilla get six points from the next two games, Sevilla will want a win to top the group.

It is unlikely to be a procession. You can't disagree with that. Liverpool might even be qualified after five games, but I'd probably give odds against on that right now. Do you disagree with that?

Roberto Baggio wrote: Just checked They're 1/10 to qualify and 6/1 not to with bet365

Indeed they are. My bad. Couldn't find the prices on betfair or, strangely, Coral.

SuperDave84 wrote: I don't think they aren't capable of beating Sevilla away. Don't twist my words. I never said that. I said it's not a stretch to see Liverpool losing to Sevilla. That is very, very different. I also think Liverpool will indeed qualify; I haven't said that I think they won't. I just don't think it's *guaranteed*, or that it'll *necessarily* be easy or boring, particularly if they need a point on the last day, which well they might. If Liverpool and Sevilla get six points from the next two games, Sevilla will want a win to top the group. It is unlikely to be a procession. You can't disagree with that. Liverpool might even be qualified after five games, but I'd probably give odds against on that right now. Do you disagree with that? Roberto Baggio wrote: Just checked They're 1/10 to qualify and 6/1 not to with bet365 Indeed they are. My bad. Couldn't find the prices on betfair or, strangely, Coral.

I expect Dortmund to get 6 points against Apoel in their next 2 games.
So Spurs really need to get something against Real Madrid to keep their lead.

Have tickets to the home match so looking forward to it. The whole point of top 4 is to play games like this.

Edited by Zinedine Kilbane 110 - 28 Sep 2017 at 6:48am

All 5 teams top of their groups and will all make the last 16

Spurs and Man city.

Double Maxim wrote:     <P itemprop="deion">EPL clubs created history tonight with all five clubs successfully qualifying for the knockout stages of the CL . No country has ever had five teams in the last-16 stage of the Champions League before.

Wouldnt get too excited just yet.
They had 3 out of 4 teams in the semis during their dominant period and still lost.

Although I do think City have s fantastic chance this year if the draw is kind to them.

Cant see any of the other 4 winning it.