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    Posted: 23 Mar 2015 at 2:50pm
I've just been reading a paper copy of yesterdays Irish Indo (can't see a link to it online) of an article by the excellent journo Eamonn Sweeney.
 
The main point of the article is that despite all the glamour and hype the EPL its is on the decline e.g. the poor showing of English clubs in this seasons CL and ultimately it could end up like the current state of Serie A.
He sites the German model as the way forward saying that Bayern Munich would walk the EPL.
 
I tend to agree with him your views on it?


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Has been on the decline for some years now IMO. 




When John Terry is still the leagues best centre half, it says it all about the standard of defences in the league. 



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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

He sites the German model as the way forward saying that Bayern Munich would walk the EPL.
 
I tend to agree with him your views on it?
Is the German model that all decent players in the league get sold to one club, who then do better in Europe but walk their domestic league every year?

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The league would be in an awful state without Chelsea and Man City. The German model would have prevented that.
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He overexaggerates alot saying EPL could end up like Serie A.. The Italian league simply has no money, look at the state of both Milan clubs and more notably Parma.

Serie A in my opinion peaked in the 90's where it was frequently broadcasted in the UK, Channel 4 had a slot every Sunday where they'd show the best bits of every game, I grew up watching that - Was a quality program Cool 

That being said if English clubs perform as badly in Europe next season, England could actually lose their 4 teams in the Champions League Spot, the ironic thing is it would be Serie A who could overtake them in the UEFA Co-efficients and there would only be 3 English teams in the 17/18 season.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Has been on the decline for some years now IMO. 




When John Terry is still the leagues best centre half, it says it all about the standard of defences in the league. 

 
 
JT wasn't the best cente half in the EPL yesterday against Hull!
 
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It would be good to see a link to the original article by Eamonn Sweeney as he makes some very good points in his piece.
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You would think Barca, Real and Bayern spend nothing on transfer fees and wages with the headline in that article
 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

You would think Barca, Real and Bayern spend nothing on transfer fees and wages with the headline in that article
 
 
 
Headline of the article somewhat misleading but what do you think of the piece as a whole?
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Been going downhill since Xabi Alonso left.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

You would think Barca, Real and Bayern spend nothing on transfer fees and wages with the headline in that article
 
That would be Real the European Champions? All three are still in the CL, which is his point. The more the EPL spends, the worse the output.
 
Although the Italian fall was for its own specific reasons, it was fast and brutal. There is no reason to think it couldn't happen in England.


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If we selected a world 11 today would any of the players come from the premiership?

could perhaps make a case for degea or courtois


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Originally posted by d13dave d13dave wrote:

If we selected a world 11 today would any of the players come from the premiership?

could perhaps make a case for degea or courtois


The third choice Spanish keeper at the world cup?
 
Do people think that the EPL will lose a CL place in the coming years? Italy gaining fast on them and they are losing a big score next year.
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One side of the argument of how strong the EPL is in general, is the poor record the EPL clubs have had in the Europa League over the years. Have any of them gone close to even a semi-final in it?

I know some will say they haven't taken it seriously etc, but they are being easily disposed of year in year out by midtable teams from other european leagues and there is no guarantee those teams are taking it that seriously either. 




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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

One side of the argument of how strong the EPL is in general, is the poor record the EPL clubs have had in the Europa League over the years. Have any of them gone close to even a semi-final in it?

I know some will say they haven't taken it seriously etc, but they are being easily disposed of year in year out by midtable teams from other european leagues and there is no guarantee those teams are taking it that seriously either. 





Chelsea won it only 2 seasons ago.. LOL

But you have to consider the fact the EPL plays 38 games a season without any winter breaks at all. Which is why squad depth the most important thing, look at every single team with small squads fall from grace after entering the Europa League.


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Originally posted by d13dave d13dave wrote:

If we selected a world 11 today would any of the players come from the premiership?

could perhaps make a case for degea or courtois



Neuer is numero uno.

Yours would be 2 and 3 at the moment IMO.
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