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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SuperDave84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 12:31pm
He was not acquitted. The State just said they no longer wanted to proceed. They are entitled to do that.

He could be retried but I doubt it. I've heard rumours as to why it collapsed but nothing solid and can't post them here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BigPodge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 2:04pm
Read these 2 articles yesterday that were listed back to back on the website:




"Odunlami’s two previous minor convictions are for theft and possession of knives."



"A JUDGE HAS jailed a 48-year-old homeless Polish man after he called a Catholic priest “a motherf**ker” outside St Peter and Paul Pro-Cathedral in Ennis last month.

It really shows how f**ked up the judicial system is in this country!
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

He was not acquitted. The State just said they no longer wanted to proceed. They are entitled to do that.

He could be retried but I doubt it. I've heard rumours as to why it collapsed but nothing solid and can't post them here.

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Originally posted by BigPodge BigPodge wrote:

Read these 2 articles yesterday that were listed back to back on the website:




"Odunlami’s two previous minor convictions are for theft and possession of knives."



"A JUDGE HAS jailed a 48-year-old homeless Polish man after he called a Catholic priest “a motherf**ker” outside St Peter and Paul Pro-Cathedral in Ennis last month.

It really shows how f**ked up the judicial system is in this country!


I assume when they say minor, they mean District Court. They're still convictions of course. The lad in Ennis, by comparison, had 40 convictions, almost all as a result of his alcohol problem, it would seem.

The number and type of previous convictions plays a big part in sentencing. If these positions were reversed, the Lusk lad would have got anywhere from eighteen months to three years and the Ennis lad anywhere from a €50 fine or some manner of probation supervision to a suspended sentence.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by BigPodge BigPodge wrote:

Read these 2 articles yesterday that were listed back to back on the website:




"Odunlami’s two previous minor convictions are for theft and possession of knives."



"A JUDGE HAS jailed a 48-year-old homeless Polish man after he called a Catholic priest “a motherf**ker” outside St Peter and Paul Pro-Cathedral in Ennis last month.

It really shows how f**ked up the judicial system is in this country!


I assume when they say minor, they mean District Court. They're still convictions of course. The lad in Ennis, by comparison, had 40 convictions, almost all as a result of his alcohol problem, it would seem.

The number and type of previous convictions plays a big part in sentencing. If these positions were reversed, the Lusk lad would have got anywhere from eighteen months to three years and the Ennis lad anywhere from a €50 fine or some manner of probation supervision to a suspended sentence.



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Lawyered or not, the fact that a lad can take a knife out with the intent to mug people and use it to threaten someone for the purposes of stealing personal belongings and get away with community service is just wrong. Its literally a split second away from potentially being murder. 
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Im no legal expert and yes you cannot be tried for the same crime twice, if acquited.

Case collapsing is a different thing.

I think you can be tried again if new evidence appears.

Provided as I say you have NOT been acquited.


 
I was hearing we did away with the "double jeopardy" thing a while back, so Hutch could get charged again if "compelling" evidence emerged.  As Dave said though, this is unlikely.
 
The emails surrounding four gardai probably have major significance and "a major error of judgement" seemed to be in the case of Colm Fox.
 
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