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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What big names are likely to leave? Any contracts expired?
I'd imagine relegation release clauses will be at the heart of the majority of their departures.

Incorrect. 

The answer to the question was already answered on Saturday

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

The sad reality is that it could get worse next season before it gets better.

Not ruling out starting the season on -10 points and a team full of academy players at this stage.

All of them will leave. The ones who remain are there because they're grossly overpaid.
There is no such thing as a relegation clause intact for players who dropped down from the Premier League last season, their contracts state it can't happen consecutively so the likes of Cattermole and Kone are still on £20-30k a week. 
Jack Rodwell will be on £40k a week as his contract was different from the rest, I honestly wouldn't trust Martin O'Neill with a £5 note ever again after the way he handled these talks but in a nutshell he's getting a paycut too because of failure to reach the Premier League after the first attempt.

Sunderland were meant to release their financial figures today but have chosen not to for a very good obvious reason, once the creditors see the figures they'll eat the club like lambs to the slaughter. IE. Ring the administrators asap. Short will likely wait until the next parachute payment comes in and feed the creditors rather than invest anything into the club and look into trying to scrap pennies like a busker before releasing any financial statements

Another problem is that Sunderland have absolutely no saleable assets, they're due £7.5 million from Beskitas keeping Lens and approx £5 million for Milan keeping Borini that's about it. Might get a 7 figure fee for McNair but that's about it really, everyone else is on too luxurious contracts.

Too long didn't read version - Squad will just be full of academy players, loanees and players sitting on their luxurious contracts with the occasional free agent there and then while the rest gets flogged off. That's the story of the summer ahead.


*Mind you this post could turn out to be entirely untrue if there's a legitimate takeover in the summer but as the current situation stands, it will be true.
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'Enjoy Accrington Stanley away' - Newcastle United fans taunt Sunderland as League One beckons

Accrington Stanley were promoted to League One this week with Sunderland likely to join them from the Championship.

 

Newcastle United fans are enjoying Sunderland’s slide down the football league and have instructed their rivals to ‘enjoy Accrington Stanley’ after the Lancashire team were promoted to League One.

Accrington secured promotion after 2-0 win over Yeovil on Tuesday night and, despite Sunderland’s place in the third tier of English football still yet to be confirmed, the likelihood is that the two clubs will meet in League One next season.

Newcastle fans have wasted no time in making sure that Sunderland supporters realise where they will most likely be playing their football next term - telling them to ‘enjoy Accrington Stanley’ on social media.

Accrington’s Wham Stadium only holds 5,000, of which only 2,000 is seated, and will make for a stark comparison to the Premier League stadia that the Black Cats became so used to.

Posting on social media, Tom Hunter wrote on Twitter: “The thought of Sunderland away to Accrington Stanley next season just makes me giggle.”

Meanwhile Sammy C joked that Accrington won’t know who Sunderland are: “Thing is if you tell an Accrington Stanley fan they’re playing Sunderland next season they’ll probably reply ‘Sunderland, who are they?’”

Stephen Porter took the opportunity to remind Sunderland fans of their frequent jibe to ‘enjoy Burton’ when Newcastle were relegated to the Championship in 2015-16.

“Enjoy Burton they said - we did. Enjoy Rotherham they said - we did. Hope you lot enjoy Accrington. Here’s a look at your view from the away end.”

Sunderland’s relegation could be confirmed this Saturday if they fail to beat Burton Albion and other results go against them.

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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What big names are likely to leave? Any contracts expired?
I'd imagine relegation release clauses will be at the heart of the majority of their departures.

Incorrect. 

The answer to the question was already answered on Saturday

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

The sad reality is that it could get worse next season before it gets better.

Not ruling out starting the season on -10 points and a team full of academy players at this stage.

All of them will leave. The ones who remain are there because they're grossly overpaid.
There is no such thing as a relegation clause intact for players who dropped down from the Premier League last season, their contracts state it can't happen consecutively so the likes of Cattermole and Kone are still on £20-30k a week. 
Jack Rodwell will be on £40k a week as his contract was different from the rest, I honestly wouldn't trust Martin O'Neill with a £5 note ever again after the way he handled these talks but in a nutshell he's getting a paycut too because of failure to reach the Premier League after the first attempt.

Sunderland were meant to release their financial figures today but have chosen not to for a very good obvious reason, once the creditors see the figures they'll eat the club like lambs to the slaughter. IE. Ring the administrators asap. Short will likely wait until the next parachute payment comes in and feed the creditors rather than invest anything into the club and look into trying to scrap pennies like a busker before releasing any financial statements

Another problem is that Sunderland have absolutely no saleable assets, they're due £7.5 million from Beskitas keeping Lens and approx £5 million for Milan keeping Borini that's about it. Might get a 7 figure fee for McNair but that's about it really, everyone else is on too luxurious contracts.

Too long didn't read version - Squad will just be full of academy players, loanees and players sitting on their luxurious contracts with the occasional free agent there and then while the rest gets flogged off. That's the story of the summer ahead.


*Mind you this post could turn out to be entirely untrue if there's a legitimate takeover in the summer but as the current situation stands, it will be true.
Pretty sure it was Congerton/Poyet who signed Rodwell not MON.
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WackoWackoThere's always 1 eh.

Been through that many Managers it's hard to keep track.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

WackoWackoThere's always 1 eh.

Been through that many Managers it's hard to keep track.
Been like a revolving door!
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If I was a Sunderland fan it is trips to the likes of Stanley that would be soothing the pain! A great little trip.
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If I was a Sunderland fan it is trips to the likes of Stanley that would be soothing the pain! A great little trip.
Yea certainly fancy that one it will be a very small allocation though.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

If I was a Sunderland fan it is trips to the likes of Stanley that would be soothing the pain! A great little trip.

We're both massive fans of League 1 PM but the trips are geographically awful for us. 

The 2nd longest trip you can get in the country being Plymouth v Sunderland sums it up really. Stanley won't be nothing special cos their stadium only holds 5k so the away section will be minimal!

Our closest trip will be Doncaster, been there a few times as my lasses' family is from there but it's still a good 2 and a half hour drive away
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

If I was a Sunderland fan it is trips to the likes of Stanley that would be soothing the pain! A great little trip.

We're both massive fans of League 1 PM but the trips are geographically awful for us. 

The 2nd longest trip you can get in the country being Plymouth v Sunderland sums it up really. Stanley won't be nothing special cos their stadium only holds 5k so the away section will be minimal!

Our closest trip will be Doncaster, been there a few times as my lasses' family is from there but it's still a good 2 and a half hour drive away
And it wouldn't surprise me if Plymouth ended up being on a Tuesday night!
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There was talk of moving fixtures with the furthest distance to midweek, the theory being that it will allow more fans to make the shorter trips at the weekends.
The logistics of doing this would be trick too.
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Little bird whispered in my ear told me there'll be more news on the takeover front in the next month, an actual serious buyer.

Eastleigh FC's owner was confronted by a consortium for a boost in cash but he tried to get them to back his own club rather than join them.

Who? We'll never know until it actually concludes cos they're signed under NDA to stay anonymous so it's pointless guessing.
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Adam Pearson the latest name to be linked with an interest in buying SAFC?
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

There was talk of moving fixtures with the furthest distance to midweek, the theory being that it will allow more fans to make the shorter trips at the weekends.
The logistics of doing this would be trick too.


I think they actually do that. Frankly, it does make more sense, given the huge number of midweek games in the Championship. The other way round is tricky: how many away fans would Sunderland get at Plymouth on a Saturday and Doncaster on a Tuesday? 300 to each? Maybe 500? Certainly not 1,000. But Doncaster on a Saturday might well get 2,000, even if Plymouth on Tuesday only gets 200.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

There was talk of moving fixtures with the furthest distance to midweek, the theory being that it will allow more fans to make the shorter trips at the weekends.
The logistics of doing this would be trick too.


I think they actually do that. Frankly, it does make more sense, given the huge number of midweek games in the Championship. The other way round is tricky: how many away fans would Sunderland get at Plymouth on a Saturday and Doncaster on a Tuesday? 300 to each? Maybe 500? Certainly not 1,000. But Doncaster on a Saturday might well get 2,000, even if Plymouth on Tuesday only gets 200.
 
 
That sounds reasonable but far too sensible for a football governing body!
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Sunderland U23s lost 1 to Swansea last night which meant they are relegated.
 
Not the sort of double we were hoping for!
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