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132- Man City
99 + 32*=131 (*whilst on loan)-Everton

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114- Liverpool

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Just googled the fourth one. Would never have got him in a million years LOL

Definitely one you'd never think of
Any clues? Position, nationality etc?

Just throw a few names out there you'll get it eventually

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Hard to believe a player had over 100 appearances in the EPL for 3 different clubs and only got 11 caps for Ireland. I never really rated him mind you.
He was phenomenal for Stoke, especially in the early years return  to the top flight. His long throw could have been very useful for Ireland and given that Trap more or less saw our midfielders as being mostly defensive,  it was bizarre (at least to me) why he was not chosen.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Hard to believe a player had over 100 appearances in the EPL for 3 different clubs and only got 11 caps for Ireland. I never really rated him mind you.
He was phenomenal for Stoke, especially in the early years return  to the top flight. His long throw could have been very useful for Ireland and given that Trap more or less saw our midfielders as being mostly defensive,  it was bizarre (at least to me) why he was not chosen.
Strange career alright, only played 2 competitive games for us, started the home and away leg of the Turkey playoff in 1999. Mad that he never played a qualifying group game, even as a sub. It was almost 10 years later when he got famous for his long thrown wth Stoke (08-09 season) but never was near an Ireland squad at that stage. Looks like he only started the long throw trick when he was 32.
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http://https://streamable.com/kppp6 I came across this the other day, which shows how frightened teams were of his throw-ins. 
It is made that other teams didn't make the most of it. They were hardly the first team to use it. Andy Legg, Dave Challinor, that Icelandic lad. Surely you use that if you have it.  I used to love watching that Stoke team, which probably isn't a popular thing to say. I thought they were great to watch.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Hard to believe a player had over 100 appearances in the EPL for 3 different clubs and only got 11 caps for Ireland. I never really rated him mind you.
He was phenomenal for Stoke, especially in the early years return  to the top flight. His long throw could have been very useful for Ireland and given that Trap more or less saw our midfielders as being mostly defensive,  it was bizarre (at least to me) why he was not chosen.
Strange career alright, only played 2 competitive games for us, started the home and away leg of the Turkey playoff in 1999. Mad that he never played a qualifying group game, even as a sub. It was almost 10 years later when he got famous for his long thrown wth Stoke (08-09 season) but never was near an Ireland squad at that stage. Looks like he only started the long throw trick when he was 32.

Sure remember the talk of him representing Ireland in the Javelin event at London 2012. He was handy at it as a kid.
 


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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

http://https://streamable.com/kppp6 I came across this the other day, which shows how frightened teams were of his throw-ins. 
It is made that other teams didn't make the most of it. They were hardly the first team to use it. Andy Legg, Dave Challinor, that Icelandic lad. Surely you use that if you have it.  I used to love watching that Stoke team, which probably isn't a popular thing to say. I thought they were great to watch.


Blast from the past there. Tranmere Rovers in an FA Cup run to the semi final, right?
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I don't think they ever got past the quarters of the FA cup, which they did around his time there, but he did captain them in a League Cup final, which they lost to MON's Leicester.
Aldridge, who may well have ruined his managerial career by being a bit of a bully to young players, was very innovative and was always looking for novel tactical ploys. He used to keep his three fastest players on the halfway line when defending corners, one on either touchline and the other on the centre circle. When a Tranmere player got  the ball they were to knock it over the top. They had some initial success with it too.

Just reading a couple of things about Delap online there. Apparently, as  clubs were so afraid of his throws that they instructed their ball-boys not to give him a towel, Tony Pulis, in full John Beck mode, decided to get a small towel stitched inside his shirt. I have no recollection of this and I am pretty sure it is a myth. I certainly want to believe it, especially as it is embellished with a chant about said towel, to the tune of Semisonic's 'Secret Smile.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I don't think they ever got past the quarters of the FA cup, which they did around his time there, but he did captain them in a League Cup final, which they lost to MON's Leicester.
Aldridge, who may well have ruined his managerial career by being a bit of a bully to young players, was very innovative and was always looking for novel tactical ploys. He used to keep his three fastest players on the halfway line when defending corners, one on either touchline and the other on the centre circle. When a Tranmere player got  the ball they were to knock it over the top. They had some initial success with it too.

Just reading a couple of things about Delap online there. Apparently, as  clubs were so afraid of his throws that they instructed their ball-boys not to give him a towel, Tony Pulis, in full John Beck mode, decided to get a small towel stitched inside his shirt. I have no recollection of this and I am pretty sure it is a myth. I certainly want to believe it, especially as it is embellished with a chant about said towel, to the tune of Semisonic's 'Secret Smile.

I'm fairly certain this is true. Ryan Shotton had the same on his jersey.
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Which club has produced (i.e. players who came through the academy) the most world cup winners?

I don't actually know the answer I'd assume Bayern Munich? or maybe a Brazilian club? considering they've all won the most

Juventus would be another who'd probably have supplied a majority but not sure they would produced many via their own academy


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Which club has produced (i.e. players who came through the academy) the most world cup winners?

I don't actually know the answer I'd assume Bayern Munich? or maybe a Brazilian club? considering they've all won the most

Juventus would be another who'd probably have supplied a majority but not sure they would produced many via their own academy

Bayern Munich buy most of their players. A lot of Germany’s  WM winning teams are more likely to have come through at ‘Gladbach, Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg etc.
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Originally posted by Mulvanystrasse Mulvanystrasse wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Which club has produced (i.e. players who came through the academy) the most world cup winners?

I don't actually know the answer I'd assume Bayern Munich? or maybe a Brazilian club? considering they've all won the most

Juventus would be another who'd probably have supplied a majority but not sure they would produced many via their own academy

Bayern Munich buy most of their players. A lot of Germany’s  WM winning teams are more likely to have come through at ‘Gladbach, Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg etc.


Well for 2014

Muller, Schweinstegier, Hummels, Lahm all came through the Bayern youth team from a young age.

Kroos I know not being from Bavaria probably would have joined from another club but he came through their academy from a technical point of view too.

Beckenbauer would have been another from Bayern academy may have been more from 1974 era.
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For Uruguay’s two wins the bulk of their players came from Peñarol and Nacional. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of them.
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For Uruguay’s two wins the bulk of their players came from Peñarol and Nacional. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of them.


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Mulvanystrasse Mulvanystrasse wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Which club has produced (i.e. players who came through the academy) the most world cup winners?

I don't actually know the answer I'd assume Bayern Munich? or maybe a Brazilian club? considering they've all won the most

Juventus would be another who'd probably have supplied a majority but not sure they would produced many via their own academy

Bayern Munich buy most of their players. A lot of Germany’s  WM winning teams are more likely to have come through at ‘Gladbach, Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg etc.


Well for 2014

Muller, Schweinstegier, Hummels, Lahm all came through the Bayern youth team from a young age.

Kroos I know not being from Bavaria probably would have joined from another club but he came through their academy from a technical point of view too.

Beckenbauer would have been another from Bayern academy may have been more from 1974 era.

2014 - Schalke - Manuel Neuer, Benedict Howedes, Mesut Ozil, Julian Draxler all came through the academy.
1990 - Schalke - Olaf Thon

I am sure ‘Gladbach would have produced many also like Lothar Matheus.
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Originally posted by Mulvanystrasse Mulvanystrasse wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Mulvanystrasse Mulvanystrasse wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Which club has produced (i.e. players who came through the academy) the most world cup winners?

I don't actually know the answer I'd assume Bayern Munich? or maybe a Brazilian club? considering they've all won the most

Juventus would be another who'd probably have supplied a majority but not sure they would produced many via their own academy

Bayern Munich buy most of their players. A lot of Germany’s  WM winning teams are more likely to have come through at ‘Gladbach, Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg etc.


Well for 2014

Muller, Schweinstegier, Hummels, Lahm all came through the Bayern youth team from a young age.

Kroos I know not being from Bavaria probably would have joined from another club but he came through their academy from a technical point of view too.

Beckenbauer would have been another from Bayern academy may have been more from 1974 era.

2014 - Schalke - Manuel Neuer, Benedict Howedes, Mesut Ozil, Julian Draxler all came through the academy.
1990 - Schalke - Olaf Thon

I am sure ‘Gladbach would have produced many also like Lothar Matheus.


Well two can play that game Wink

1990 : Augenthaler, Aumann, Pflügler.

All Bayern youth players

As Pre Madonna says I'd imagine it would be one of Penarol or Nacional as a good % of their 1930/50 squads were made up of players from those two.


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Gonna say West Ham ?
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seriously though Flamengo or Botofogo ?
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