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Sham157
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nvidic
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As stated, a tax is a payment you have no option but to pay, it's not a tax
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Lenny82
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Link fixed. Below here too https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/lottery-is-a-tax-on-the-poor-2012-4%3famp
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39823 |
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I had a scratch card addiction once. It was an itch I had to scratch.
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Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more...
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Sham157
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Edited by Sham157 - 28 Nov 2020 at 9:07pm |
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nvidic
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It's true for things that be to be paid, like vat on shopping or excise on petrol, they're regressive taxes as they have to be paid and effect people differently based on income, along your lines above, something that isn't necessary/compulsory can never be a tax Doing an economics exam next week, tax is a question on it, if I tried to argue scratch cards were a regressive tax, I'd fail Edited by nvidic - 28 Nov 2020 at 9:15pm |
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Sham157
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Of course, but it is unquestionable that lotteries are created to sell hopes and dreams to those most desperate and the money is then used to plug holes in the economy as a result of government mismanagement, which is then used to give those people a sense of validation and social reward for playing the lottery. It isn't a 'tax' in the strictest sense of the word, but is really just a tax substitute. The latest advertising for the lottery here is proof of that, showing how the lottery gives money to the NHS and to help the war wounded. It is proof that we need to remove the idea of charity from society, fast!
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MayoMark
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Going through this thread from the start,this one has me in stitches And Gaz in an absolute oddball
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16467 |
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Done same myself today, some hilarious stories
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sid waddell
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Since my father died I have taken to looking through RIP.ie
I think this is probably because I want to feel that I am not grieving alone I'm not sure if this is healthy or not, I think it's probably unhealthy in that it makes me feel more down, but at the same time maybe I am trying to reinforce a sense of empathy and respect for others within myself (at least when I'm not calling people on the internet "****s"), to remind myself that life is about people, and given that I am starved of actually meeting with other people at the moment, maybe this is a way of doing this But at the same time it's definitely voyeurism RIP.ie takes you down rabbit holes This morning I looked at a particular death notice, a young woman, I'd say in her 30s I spent about about an hour piecing together her and family's life story, it seems a very sad one, and within a very short time I felt myself identifying very strongly with the grief her family must be feeling over the loss of what seemed like a wonderful person in a wonderful family, and I thought about leaving a message of condolence, but I didn't because I felt it would have just been weird to do so given that I didn't know her and only discovered her existence online A couple of weeks ago I stumbled across the tragic death of a man who had put a roof on our garage at home 15 years ago, somebody I'd guess might possibly have been known to one or two posters here And he seemed like a great man This made me sad too I look at the death notices of older people too, and imagine what they must have meant to their families and the stories they would have had to tell I don't really know what the purpose of this post is except to say that this is a strange thing I have taken to doing, or is it strange? Do other people do this or is it something people start doing as they get older or suffer a bereavement, bearing in mind that the facility to do this has only recently become available. ie. the internet Or is it because of this time we are in, when the topic of death and sadness seems to be all around us, that I am doing this Or is it all of this Edited by sid waddell - 20 Feb 2021 at 12:35pm |
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Claret Murph
Paul McGrath Hmmm, Goodness, I must say Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 15740 |
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Sid you need to keep away from rip.ie .
Not sure why but people who i work with love death for some reason now sure it's an age thing but when they find someone they know who has died it's a case of yes i know someone . Look maybe an Irish thing but stay off it Sid try to find things that make you happy about your Dad think positive in a time of pain . I remember when my Dad died three days later we were sat in his house on a Saturday morning and my Sister said Burnley are playing Leeds today ( Championship ) should we go ? Now my Brother in law said if he was alive he would really wanted us to go and he was right and the Clarets won that day and it still makes us laugh ............... Thanks Dad |
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Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days .
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Irish culture is obsessed with death. It's a national fetish.
Sid, I find the pieces in the Irish Times every Saturday about the people who have died to be done in a lovely way and might give you some succour.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32775 |
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I don’t think we run away from it or pretend it doesn’t happen. I think the ceremony and stuff around death in Ireland is actually cathartic and healthy and one of the sad things about the last year is that has been largely denied from people who have lost someone. It was a huge help to me to have the process of the funeral and having friends and family turn up. I think we do death well in this country and sadly many people have missed out on that over the last year.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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It wasn't a criticism and the reasons why we have it are wide and varied, but we do almost obsess over it. Some of it is quite healthy, but I am not sure all of it is. I think that the big hand of the Church and the fear it uses to keep a hold over people is the problematic part. The more positive aspects are that we deal with the emotions it brings more humanely than over here or in other parts of northern Europe and the reaction communities have to it.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32775 |
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Well said. I am not fan of the church and I don’t attend mass. I have been struck at times when attending mass either for a funeral or a christening or a communion that there is very little to
Replace the community aspect it brought to Irish life. Far more bad than good in my view but I suppose sport is one way but there is not much else. Community is hugely important whether that’s a football club or a book club or a load of auld lads having a pint 2 or 3 times a week. We are losing it and if one good thing comes from this pandemic is maybe an appreciation of community in its many guises. I missed the Bohs and Dubs matches when I was away and and still do.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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It is definitely a social issue across Europe. We need to channel the same sense of belonging and duty that religion brought into the communities themselves. The idea there was a place that everybody needed to be every week was good for society, to discuss life on a relatively equal footing and created a community, even if what brought them there hasn't always been good for the progress of that society.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32775 |
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They used to say the churches of the future were shopping centres which was depressing and became through in Ireland during 2000s but unsurprisingly it was vacuous. Now those shopping centres have an uncertain future too.
You are dead right. Europe does need to come up with community based activities which are not religious or commercially based. I know you didn’t like it’s a sin but the sense of community during London in the 80s amongst the gay community is obvious. I have said the same about this place to a lesser extent at one point but even that has gone now and it’s largely just strangers arguing online (myself included )
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