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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

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The best thing the FAI could do now is to extend his contract before the squad comes into camp for the fixtures next month to give everyone certainty and I think regardless of the side of the argument you are on you’d agree with that.


If you're on the side that you think Kenny is the wrong man for the job why on earth would you agree with that? Personally I'd like him sacked before the next camp so that we don't have to waste another international window with him in charge. Failing that we can hopefully get rid of him at the end of the campaign, but if he is still in charge in 2022 we will likely have many more dark days ahead sadly.
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

The best thing the FAI could do now is to extend his contract before the squad comes into camp for the fixtures next month to give everyone certainty and I think regardless of the side of the argument you are on you’d agree with that.

It gives everyone an end goal of Euro 24 and put this campaign behind us. The players need something to motivate them with not the most attractive of double headers on the cards.


That would be extremely unwise.  Firstly nobody is going to be after Kenny regardless.  Certainly nobody better than the Ireland job. He will not jump ship.  Secondly his performace as manager is massively in doubt. 1 win in 16 games!  That's appalling.  Let's see how he gets on in these few games.

Imagine the FAI gave him a new contract and we lost against Luxembourg and get hammered by Portugal for example.  It would then cost them money they dont have to sack him.

Kenny needs to prove himself and there are serious question marks over his ability at this level. 
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

The best thing the FAI could do now is to extend his contract before the squad comes into camp for the fixtures next month to give everyone certainty and I think regardless of the side of the argument you are on you’d agree with that.


If you're on the side that you think Kenny is the wrong man for the job why on earth would you agree with that? Personally I'd like him sacked before the next camp so that we don't have to waste another international window with him in charge. Failing that we can hopefully get rid of him at the end of the campaign, but if he is still in charge in 2022 we will likely have many more dark days ahead sadly.
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The squad is brutal, midfield and attack are a horror story. Our best chance of a forward fell short against Liverpools u18s ffs.

You're looking at about 2 years of building and no manager in his right mind would want the job for less than the market value we can offer.

Maybe people are right and Kenny is not up to it, I dont know... But I am sure that the players available are definitely not up to it. Maybe a small amount of the responsibility should be on their shoulders. 




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This again, he was up against 35mn powerhouse Ibrahim konate who is a beast and England's quickest centre back in joe gomez. sl*g adam off if u wish, but he absolutely was not playing vs liverpoll under 18s.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

This again, he was up against 35mn powerhouse Ibrahim konate who is a beast and England's quickest centre back in joe gomez. sl*g adam off if u wish, but he absolutely was not playing vs liverpoll under 18s.

How many senior goals has he scored?
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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

This again, he was up against 35mn powerhouse Ibrahim konate who is a beast and England's quickest centre back in joe gomez. sl*g adam off if u wish, but he absolutely was not playing vs liverpoll under 18s.

How many senior goals has he scored?

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I'm pro (give him chance) Kenny, but I genuinely think Kenny is one of the very few managers who would currently have Idah starting for Ireland. 

Not denying his potential, but over the last 2 years I just do not see what Kenny is seeing that guarantees him a start whenever he's fit.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

This again, he was up against 35mn powerhouse Ibrahim konate who is a beast and England's quickest centre back in joe gomez. sl*g adam off if u wish, but he absolutely was not playing vs liverpoll under 18s.

How many senior goals has he scored?

Wikipedia is your friend, who is better?


There are players in L1 and obove playing regularly who.ought to be ahead of him

He was a dud at championship too

I honestly think he'd struggle to score regularly in L1




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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

I'm pro (give him chance) Kenny, but I genuinely think Kenny is one of the very few managers who would currently have Idah starting for Ireland. 

Not denying his potential, but over the last 2 years I just do not see what Kenny is seeing that guarantees him a start whenever he's fit.

so who should be? still waiting for a response from all of adams detractors!

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

So, according to you, FIFA rankings should reflect "tactics, styles of play,  possession stats,  player availability,  squad depth and virus restrictions". Otherwise it's unfair to Stephen Kenny. That's very funny.

No what's funny is that's what you believe. I said FIFA rankings reflect results only. A win against San Marino counts the same as a win over Germany. There's nothing wrong with that, but  as we haven't got many results in recent years, that's going to be reflected in the rankings. (2) This is an issue going back long before Kenny took the job. The last group was much easier than this, it gave us 2 chances to get out of it automatically, and we didn't get out of it. Kenny had no say in any of that. 

If we somehow sneak a win out of the last couple of games, the narrative is already known. "2 wins in 17 Kenny Out". This group is over from an Ireland perspective. In reality it was over after the first 2 games. All that is left is a handful of dead rubbers to bring through new players and continue the rebuilding work. If we win them great, if not it's part of the learning curve for this squad and this manager going into the next campaign. They are not do or die ties that decide if we're going to Doha or not, and shouldn't be treated as such. Obviously it would be better to still be in contention to get there, but only 13 countries from Europe are going to go, and much better Ireland teams than this one haven't got there. So the rebuilding continues until such time as we're ready to reach the standard required. 
Wrong. A team that does well against one ranked higher gets more points than a higher ranked team beating a team below them. (2) The rankings are calculated monthly.


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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

I'm pro (give him chance) Kenny, but I genuinely think Kenny is one of the very few managers who would currently have Idah starting for Ireland. 

Not denying his potential, but over the last 2 years I just do not see what Kenny is seeing that guarantees him a start whenever he's fit.


My only thinking would be do we have anyone else who'll do the David McGoldrick role of trying to hold the ball up better. I know Kenny has stated before that's why he brought Troy into the squad last year ahead of other strikers when McGoldrick was injured, and wouldn't mind seeing him play up front with another striker against Azerbaijan over Idah. He's playing week in week out, but would you play him with.

Plus when Idah has been fit since we've switched formation I don't think Robinson has been fit who started with Connolly up front. If everyone is fit then it's gonna be hard for Kenny to justify starting him when Robinson and Connolly played well together against Serbia in the first game.

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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

This again, he was up against 35mn powerhouse Ibrahim konate who is a beast and England's quickest centre back in joe gomez. sl*g adam off if u wish, but he absolutely was not playing vs liverpoll under 18s.

How many senior goals has he scored?

Wikipedia is your friend, who is better?


There are players in L1 and obove playing regularly who.ought to be ahead of him

He was a dud at championship too

I honestly think he'd struggle to score regularly in L1

Who are these mythical players in League 1 that are better than him? Daniel Farke seems to rate him since he's got minutes in every game bar one this year and no one is going to displace Pukki from the side
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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

He was a dud at championship too






He was out injured for half last season.
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