It's the Stephen Kenny Thread

Claret Murph wrote: Heimatklange wrote: Cabra Hoop wrote: Those who are so voiciferous in defending SK....would you happy to give him a contract until 2026 ? I assume the majority will say No as they would have an expectation of improved results sooner rather than later. So, at what stage do they believe a change is necessary ? Are they prepared to write off the 2022 NL as well? Or even Euro 2024 ? Are they happy to accept nice possession based football with no cutting edge and non qualification ? The alternative is a more direct approach which not as pretty on the eye but has proven to get better results. Personally I would give him a 10 year contract. The transformation that Irish soccer needs isn't going to be achieved in 2 or 4 years. A complete shift in the mindset of style and development of players is going to take much longer. I think Kenny has done an incredible job in 2 years and while a lot has been done a lot more remains to do. Kenny's nurturing and development of the likes of Bazunu, Omobamidele, Molumby, Parrott, Idah, Knight, Connolly has given us the spine of the future team. Much more time is going to be needed to find more players to supplement these lads. Euro 2024 might come a little early for his project and this is why I think a 10 year contract is preferable. OK , I think it's time for class A drugs

I'm still a little on the fence regarding Kenny as I feel we do need to start winning some more games. But I will say this, he has been tasked with changing the footballing identity of our country, a task he is definitely making progress towards. Personally I dont think the nations league games will offer a true outcome of this task and therefore I reckon he should get the Euro campaign to truly test if his plan has worked. If it hasn't, well then we look in another direction but if it does, with the abundance of potential talent we have coming through at underage, we could see ourselves qualifying more consistently.  

But progress has already been made up to this point, lost to Serbia but drew the return, lost to Portugal but drew the return, drew with Azerbaijan and then beat them comfortably, same with Qatar. Yes a win tonight would be great, but I don't think it will be the be all and end all of Kennys reign. We were never getting out of this group and on paper yes, we should have been finishing 3rd but most of the so called minnows are getting stronger now and harder to play against let alone beat. So this sense of entitlement that we should be getting 12 points off the 2 lower ranked teams is a bit much these days.

Claret Murph wrote: Right as you know i never wanted Kenny as the manager as i see this contected to JD and the past which i never want to see the like again . What has that got to do with Stephen Kenny? "connected to the past" embarassing rationale for not wanting a man in charge. It's not like he was a JD stooge. This is a man that only became associated with the FAI in late 2018. It's not like he has a long standing association with JD and that regime.   I am not anti Dublin or LOI i just think he " was " not the man for the job . Who would you have been happy with? You're in a privileged position now as you can change any names you may have had in yer head back in April 2020.  World Cup started off very bad and got better towards the end . Correct and lets hope for more this evening.  What ever happens tonight i do not think the board need to act right away . i think Kenny should still be the manager until July as they don't need to sack him we will play like for like sides in NL games and we have to get results . Come July the board can sit down and see where we are only then they can decide to stick or twist . You're contradicting yourself here. You didnt want him, you dont believe he is the man for the job, yet you think he should maintain his position? Surely that goes against your common sense? If a man isnt fit for the job then why would you perservere?

McG wrote: Claret Murph wrote: Right as you know i never wanted Kenny as the manager as i see this contected to JD and the past which i never want to see the like again . What has that got to do with Stephen Kenny? "connected to the past" embarassing rationale for not wanting a man in charge. It's not like he was a JD stooge. This is a man that only became associated with the FAI in late 2018. It's not like he has a long standing association with JD and that regime.   I am not anti Dublin or LOI i just think he " was " not the man for the job . Who would you have been happy with? You're in a privileged position now as you can change any names you may have had in yer head back in April 2020.  World Cup started off very bad and got better towards the end . Correct and lets hope for more this evening.  What ever happens tonight i do not think the board need to act right away . i think Kenny should still be the manager until July as they don't need to sack him we will play like for like sides in NL games and we have to get results . Come July the board can sit down and see where we are only then they can decide to stick or twist . You're contradicting yourself here. You didnt want him, you dont believe he is the man for the job, yet you think he should maintain his position? Surely that goes against your common sense? If a man isnt fit for the job then why would you perservere?  Honestly, it's hard to respect the drivel posted by you Murph. You set out your stall early doors and can't seem to swallow your pride and acknowledge that the management team, given the circumstances, have performed well. It's also convenient how you almost mirror Liam Brady and his views on contracts etc. convenient material for your assertions.

10 more years 

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Roberto Baggio wrote: Why’s it even still a debate about his contract? Clear progression over the past year Would he daft to sack him and appoint a washed up ex English championship manager to tear up the plans

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