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valo88
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On the plus side, if we fail to qualify via the playoffs Kenny will get a few friendlies in May/June ahead of the Nations League games.
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Denis Irwin
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Am I right in thinking he'll be part of the backroom team at the Euros if we qualify. Seem to recall it being mentioned last year when him and Mick were appointed
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Can't imagine either party would want any part of that.
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AonSceal19
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It is definitely a valid argument but to counter that point the success kenny has had with the u21s is surely good preparation for the senior job. He now has worked with all the talented young players and he has gained credibility with the fantastic results and style of play. If he took over the senior side immediately and we didn't do as well you'd probably have a few impatient fans piping up about his managerial experience at this level. 6 games in the Nations League is the perfect platform to settle into the job
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Drumcondra 69er
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Exactly right. He couldn't have parachuted a load of lads with practically no senior football experience into the senior team Nor would he have. He'd have been working with the same basic panel. Said at the time the U21 appointment was more important than the senior appointment because he'd be in charge of developing the players that Mohan and O'Brien had been working wonders with in the age groups below. I don't know if double jobbing will be possible when he takes over but if the 21s qualified for their Euros in 2021 then Kenny being in charge for the tournament and sharing that experience with the squad would actually be a positive for the senior team in the long run.
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LovelyLiam
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Stephen was a guest this evening at the Second Captains live show. Listening to his football philosophy was a breath of fresh air. Doesn’t ever approach a game with a park the bus strategy and always wants to have more possession than the opposition.
Did still seem disappointed he didn’t get the Ireland job straight away but I think it could be a blessing in disguise. He’s building strong relationships with his future team and has had a lot of time with these players over the past year with 12xU21 matches.
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DeclanDaly
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This is an excellent video. Love listening to Kenny talk about football
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The under 21 game on 26th March in Tallaght - what is the story with tickets for this, is it unreserved seating and which stand is best? Only need the 1 ticket
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If in doubt just f**k it out!!! Stop the nonsense as Johnny Giles would say
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Sham157
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kearney304
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I didn't think senior games could clash with 21 games
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Denis Irwin
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Kicking off at 5pm
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
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Mr. Snrub
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It's farcical. Most of the fans who would have attended will be in Bratislava
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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Kenny knows this and tried\ or is trying to get the game moved. He also may lose a few players to the senior squad too. |
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Drumcondra 69er
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Tried but UEFA wouldn't budge.
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PaddyDaCulchie
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He has transformed the U21s from Noel King and Don Givens disastrous tenures. He obviously has the respect of these young players who in a few years will hopefully be the backbone of the squad. Deserves his chance. Look at Southgate, didnt do much at Boro apart get relegated and sacked, before getting English U21 job but has brought the young players with him and phased out the old guard in the senior squad.
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DeclanDaly
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Yeah, I guess we’ll find out. Honestly, we’ve tried every variation in the last 15 years (ex players, solid club managers, world class super managers) and we’ve had little success. At this stage, it’s a breath of fresh air to have somebody at the helm who can explain their ethos and approach, or talk with an interviewer without being obnoxious or dropping a clanger.
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PaddyDaCulchie
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Southgate's career as a player counts for nothing as a manager. He wasn't a serial winner or at a top club. A lot better players failed as managers, a lot worse players have been great managers. I think in Kenny's favour he has bonded with the group of U21s, they play for him and the turn around in the under 21 set up in such a short time with most players still eligible for u21s in next campaign. Against him is if these young players dont progress quick enough, if he is stuck with a squad of players we have at moment that mighnt buy into his methods or are incapable of doing so. So in my opinion Kenny needs the senior players he believes will fit into his system to do so, and he needs likes 5 or 6 of the U21s to gradually step up during his first campaign. I think most people hoping it's like what Southgate has done, out with most of the old guard and in with the U21s he managed. If it works it works, if not then he cant do much worse than we are now.
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PaddyDaCulchie
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I hope it's not a job too far because if it doesn't work hard to see where to go next. Back to semi-retired conservative managers whose methods are outdated and found out at club level or take another chance on an manager inexperienced at the top level? FAI cant afford or attract a manager in his prime.
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