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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

A lot of debate on if we should play kennys passing game or if we'd have a better chance with mccarthys long ball approach.

The way things are going, I dont think there's a formation or tactic that would get us near any qualification.

We're simply struggling all over the pitch... a bit grim I know but we'll be looking to build for the next two years .

True. I often think we have sometimes been very quick to invoke the "sum total is better than its constituent parts" mantra when it comes to previous teams. But at the moment, I would have little faith in the collective, let alone any single one of our players. This is now exacerbated by injury and poor form, and Kenny has a major on his hands to actually wrangle what is left into a team that can advantageously utilise his more open style of play. 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

why aren’t the FAI on the phone to CONMEBOL offering to participate in the COPA America in the absence of Qatar and Australia?

I presume UEFA would need to sanction this, even if it was a goer. I know they've allowed Spain compete before, but I can't see them letting a European team compete in another high profile competition at the same time as the Euros


When did Spain compete ? 

Must of dreamt that! I thought they competed in an anniversary Copa for some reason. Any point still stands, can't see UEFA allowing any European team play 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

why aren’t the FAI on the phone to CONMEBOL offering to participate in the COPA America in the absence of Qatar and Australia?

I presume UEFA would need to sanction this, even if it was a goer. I know they've allowed Spain compete before, but I can't see them letting a European team compete in another high profile competition at the same time as the Euros

I doubt we would take much away from the tv audience for the EUROS. Minuscule chance of happening but be nice if they tried 
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

why aren’t the FAI on the phone to CONMEBOL offering to participate in the COPA America in the absence of Qatar and Australia?

I presume UEFA would need to sanction this, even if it was a goer. I know they've allowed Spain compete before, but I can't see them letting a European team compete in another high profile competition at the same time as the Euros


When did Spain compete ? 
I think that they were contemplating going, along with Portugal, for the centenary tournament but other commitments came to pass. I would imagine UEFA would be very slow to let members compete. I'm not sure if the players would want it and I very much doubt that CONMEBOL would see Ireland adding anything of interest to the tournament.

Beside all that, the FAI should be making this happen and it is an absolute disgrace if they don't!!!!
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

why aren’t the FAI on the phone to CONMEBOL offering to participate in the COPA America in the absence of Qatar and Australia?

I presume UEFA would need to sanction this, even if it was a goer. I know they've allowed Spain compete before, but I can't see them letting a European team compete in another high profile competition at the same time as the Euros


When did Spain compete ? 
I think that they were contemplating going, along with Portugal, for the centenary tournament but other commitments came to pass. I would imagine UEFA would be very slow to let members compete. I'm not sure if the players would want it and I very much doubt that CONMEBOL would see Ireland adding anything of interest to the tournament.

Beside all that, the FAI should be making this happen and it is an absolute disgrace if they don't!!!!


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There would be significant local interest in Argentina if Ireland participated. 12% of their population claims Irish heritage and they reckon we share a bond due to our past Brit related problems. 

I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 


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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


There would be significant local interest in Argentina if Ireland participated. 12% of their population claims Irish heritage and they reckon we share a bond due to our shared Brit related problems. 

I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 
I would question the use of the word 'significant' there! There would be some and it would be minor. 
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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 

El Cartel might be happy to get some new customers. Why aren't you on the phone to Medellin?
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


There would be significant local interest in Argentina if Ireland participated. 12% of their population claims Irish heritage and they reckon we share a bond due to our shared Brit related problems. 

I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 
I would question the use of the word 'significant' there! There would be some and it would be minor. 

We need to call back Javier to settle this ...

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


There would be significant local interest in Argentina if Ireland participated. 12% of their population claims Irish heritage and they reckon we share a bond due to our shared Brit related problems. 

I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 
I would question the use of the word 'significant' there! There would be some and it would be minor. 

Honestly, I think the Argentines would really welcome it. St Patricks Day is a big enough deal in Buenos Aires. A lot of the posh or middle class kids get educated in what were previously Irish run schools and they have a good awareness of Ireland generally.  
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I see one of the stadium hosting games is called the Estadio Malvinas Argentinas. Sadly in the unlikely event we were invited none of our games would be there. We would play one of them in the Estadio Mario Kempes though Cool

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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


There would be significant local interest in Argentina if Ireland participated. 12% of their population claims Irish heritage and they reckon we share a bond due to our shared Brit related problems. 

I don't think anyone in Colombia would give a fook though. 
I would question the use of the word 'significant' there! There would be some and it would be minor. 

Honestly, I think the Argentines would really welcome it. St Patricks Day is a big enough deal in Buenos Aires. A lot of the posh or middle class kids get educated in what were previously Irish run schools and they have a good awareness of Ireland generally.  
I am aware of this, but that wouldn't lead to 'significant' interest and would be shocked if it did. Anyway, it is all beyond hypothetical because there is absolutely no hope of this happening for many, many reasons and none of them Irish emigration and its subsequent influence on Argentine culture.
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

It looks like India will be one of the replacements.




If they're inviting the soccer power house of India it's obviously got nothing to do with money..
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

It looks like India will be one of the replacements.





Reading down further suggests they have the same issues as Aus and Qatar
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

It looks like India will be one of the replacements.




If they're inviting the soccer power house of India it's obviously got nothing to do with money..

Well massive population......
By reading that looks like African and European teams are the only two that can play.
Im probably putting 2 and 2 together and getting 6 here but bar the teams qualified for the euros we have surely got the best chance of getting an invite if they invite a European team if that makes sense, now if they invite a European team is different question

I am sure the players would love to play


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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

When did Spain compete ? 

Must of dreamt that! I thought they competed in an anniversary Copa for some reason. Any point still stands, can't see UEFA allowing any European team play 
"In all, nine different nations have received invitations: Costa Rica (1997, 2001, 2004, 2011, 2016), Honduras (2001), Japan (1999, 2019), Jamaica (2015, 2016), Mexico (1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2016), Haiti (2016), Panama (2016), the United States (1993, 1995, 2007, 2016), Qatar (2019, 2021) and Australia (2021). The United States was invited to every tournament between 1997 and 2007 but frequently turned down the invitation due to scheduling conflicts with Major League Soccer."
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