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I do find more often than not the players we have that aren't playing regularly at their clubs do surprisingly well and maybe even overperform in some cases when they play for Ireland. I think this has been the case for a long time going back several Irish managers. 

It is a concern though the lack of game time a good few of our players are getting all the same. 

I'm unusually optimistic for the November matches. We'll lose to England but will get the required 3/4 points from the Wales & Bulgaria games to stay in League B. We'll be 3rd seeds for the world cup draw in December imo.


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For people already calling for Kenny's head or at least questioning him, what is the alternative? Or who is the alternative?

Under Trap, MoN and McCarthy we were playing what many called utter spunk, anti-football, etc. and people were crying out for us to start playing a passing game. 
We are doing that now, there are some teething issues but for me there are some positive signs in there (not last night apart from about 2 minutes in the first half). 

People referencing "If McCarthy was in charge..or Big Sam..." I don't even think we have players to play that system. And do we really want to go that route anyway?

I think Kenny is still the man and he should be given at least the world cup campaign before making a firm judgement. I'd like to see a bit more fight from the players and more confidence and I think this will come once we get a result under our belts.

England game was a terrible one to take! We should have organized something like Latvia at home 



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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:


I think Kenny is still the man and he should be given at least the world cup campaign before making a firm judgement. I'd like to see a bit more fight from the players and more confidence and I think this will come once we get a result under our belts.

England game was a terrible one to take! We should have organized something like Latvia at home 


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We scored 7 goals in the entire last qualifying group - 3 of them against Gibraltar. Jurgen Klopp wouldn't get more out of this current squad 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

We scored 7 goals in the entire last qualifying group - 3 of them against Gibraltar. Jurgen Klopp wouldn't get more out of this current squad 

He would, because he is a better manager. But thats not a dig at Kenny.

I never wanted Kenny (I wasn't that against it either tbf) and still wouldn't be put off by the start he has made. Bit of luck against Slovakia last month and it would have been a completely different atmosphere around this team. 

Agree re the last campaign, it was an awful slog watching us. I am looking forward to the world cup qualifiers (hopefully we get to travel) and seeing how the team develops over the next 12/18 months. We have low expectations at the minute, so we could surprise ourselves. We are due some luck, so hopefully the draw is kind 
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Hummmm still at a loss what to say after last night but i did think Kenny would change things but still the same as across the back four back to the keeper and repeat .
 
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Has to be given the World Cup qualifying campaign. Result and performance was beyond disappointing last night and a bit naive in how we approached trying to play against a team that's always going to be a top seed in any group but he wasn't helped by the FAI who arranged this fixture. With all the injuries, Covid results, pull outs and retirements he hasn't had much luck with squads. The way he is trying to get us to play is right and will be proven when we play the teams seeded 3-5/6 in any group we get drawn into and possibly against teams seeded 2nd but against teams seeded 1 to 2 we'll need to revert to a degree to the usual methods we've had success with. What's probably hindered him too is how well he was doing with the U21's where they are in a position to qualify for the first and he's rightly not disrupted the squad for his own gains. In time those in the U21's will get their chance. Hopefully we get seeded 2nd in our World Cup group and go from there...  
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

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Looks out of his depth there, he isn't making any sense. He dodged the question about the scheduling of the friendly and rambled gibberish for 2 minutes.

"I don't think anyone could say Shane Duffy had a bad game tonight"

WTF??!

His interviews wouldn't give much confidence.
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I said two years ago when Kenny did an interview with Marian Finucane that his lack of communication skills would be a problem
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When he was on the stand with Eamonn Dunphy I thought he came across well. 

I think he basically tries to think about his answer when he's speaking so hence things come across like that.
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I think Sid was the first to point out that his interviews are excruciating to watch.
Incoherent, inarticulate and lacking confidence. I hope he is not like that when trying to inspire
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OK - the reality of where we are now.

Players available are average to poor if we're being kind. I think if we have all players fit, available and covid free. We have an ok enough team.

Strength in depth is just not there at all. We miss Randolph and we're in trouble, we miss Connolly and I can't see where goals are coming from. Not that connolly scores goals for us.

Financially the FAI are a shambles.

Granny rulers are not going to help us out here at all.

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Thing is with Kenny is that you have to actually listen to what he’s saying rather than how he’s saying it. Martin O’Neill was a master at speaking forever and saying nothing. 

If we’d been getting amazing results for the past decade I could put up with the sh*t football. We haven’t. We’ve been stealing a living. I can put up with missing a tournament that may not even happen if it means we’re getting better
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

We scored 7 goals in the entire last qualifying group - 3 of them against Gibraltar. Jurgen Klopp wouldn't get more out of this current squad 

That gave me a good laugh.
 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Thing is with Kenny is that you have to actually listen to what he’s saying rather than how he’s saying it. Martin O’Neill was a master at speaking forever and saying nothing. 

If we’d been getting amazing results for the past decade I could put up with the sh*t football. We haven’t. We’ve been stealing a living. I can put up with missing a tournament that may not even happen if it means we’re getting better

You are nearly finishing his sentence for him.  Its very uncomfortable watching. 
You can tell he knows about what he is trying to say in his Head but finds it hard to express.




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