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    Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 12:57pm
Will be a future Ireland manager I believe. Can't see it being this week as the FAI are looking for the easy option, and appealing to fans and media nostalgia is looking like their most likely policy.

Could end up being the best thing for the man I reckon. If Kenny gets the job now and is only on an 18 month contract, he could well be out on his ear in just over a years time. If he waits (obviously he may have option in that anyway!), and he continues being successful at Dundalk (which I'm pretty certain he will be) he'll be in pole position to take the job in a year or 2 time when the previous incumbent crashes and burns.



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One thing I hope does NOT happen is that he puts so much hope into getting the Ireland job, only to be disappointed, and then loses sight at club level. Kind of like how Harry Redknapp did when he expected to get the England job. Because if Mick is given it (which I would not have much issue with) then Kenny at aged 47 could still be in line to be the next one after
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It would be the ultimate honor for him, he would support LOI and have faith it's players in this really critical next few years when we start to see the fruits of the positive changes that have been made at underage. He is someone who could coach and manage the senior team but could also have a hand at all levels. He could come into the office in Abbotstown and oversee potential academy set up.

Maybe he can still do that role without being the manager of the senior team??? (Could also see someone like Lee Carsley in that role)

I'd get behind Mick of course but I just feel it never really works out second time around, I don't know if he would really have the hunger or energy to roll up the sleeves and get that into that type of role.

I think he would be almost exclusively working with the senior team.

 
 
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It would be illogical for Kenny to not get the Ireland job. Ireland will prosper under his reign. Delaney must not make a selfish decision as the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
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He's the the only option for me. Think of the shot in the arm it will give the domestic game in Ireland (no womder the Junkies have issued a statement endorsing him)
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Needs to stay where he is.

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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

He's the the only option for me. Think of the shot in the arm it will give the domestic game in Ireland (no womder the Junkies have issued a statement endorsing him)

Ive heard this said but what shot will it give? what shot did it give when kerr got the job? none. can't see how it will make any difference.
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Don't see him getting it during this period at all. Maybe in the future. I would like to see Kenny get a job

in League 1 or so like Paul Cook and see how he does then. He needs to prove himself outside of the LOI

where there are only 2 clubs capable of winning the league. It is Mick or Sam for me right now. 




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If he gets the job will he play no long ball at all? Five minutes to go in a vital match we need a goal, it's not happening, will he change it up and throw a big lad up front? Would he see that as against his principles?

Some long ball and physicality was always a part of the most successful Irish teams make-up. I'd like to see us play a lot more football and get back to being the team everyone hates playing against. That's more likely under Mick who I think will mix it up more.
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We just spent 5 years with MON. 

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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

If he gets the job will he play no long ball at all? Five minutes to go in a vital match we need a goal, it's not happening, will he change it up and throw a big lad up front? Would he see that as against his principles?

Some long ball and physicality was always a part of the most successful Irish teams make-up. I'd like to see us play a lot more football and get back to being the team everyone hates playing against. That's more likely under Mick who I think will mix it up more.

course we need a mixture. if were away to spain and 2-0 down after 20 mins our pretty football plan might have to go out the window.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

He's the the only option for me. Think of the shot in the arm it will give the domestic game in Ireland (no womder the Junkies have issued a statement endorsing him)

Ive heard this said but what shot will it give? what shot did it give when kerr got the job? none. can't see how it will make any difference.
 

Different time. Only one player from that era went on to play for Ireland (wes). Squad was filled with majority of premiership players.

Now we don't have that many premiership players and many people in the squad have come through the LOI system and the growing trends of less Irish players getting picked up by English clubs suggests we will need to put extra emphasis on the league.

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Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

Don't see him getting it during this period anyway. Maybe in the future. It is Mick or Sam for me right now. 
Getting him in last year would have been ideal for him as he would have had those friendlies and Nations League matches to get his ideas, system and methods bedded in before the qualifiers start in March.  Unfortunately, that luxury has gone (actually, 'wasted' would probably be more apt by keeping MONROY on when they were so obviously a busted flush but sure that's for another thread) so we need someone with experience like Mick who can hit the ground running. 
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I'm not sure I buy the "inexperienced" line. He's 47 years old and has been managing for the last 21 years.

Exactly how much experience is he supposed to get under his belt before he becomes eligible for the Ireland job?
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Would love to see him get it but the time it to him was either 12 months ago, we have wasted the last 12 months completely. In an ideal situation he would get it after Euro 2020 having had a successful European run with Dundalk in the meantime. It would be an exciting appointment if he does get it at some stage.
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

I'm not sure I buy the "inexperienced" line. He's 47 years old and has been managing for the last 21 years.

Exactly how much experience is he supposed to get under his belt before he becomes eligible for the Ireland job?

True. Talking to an LOI player he is very much a man who is respected by his players too. After years of success I think it's not debatable that this man is (a) a leader  (b) a good coach (c) able to deal with grown men!
The media piece might be a difficult transition, but it is a tough job and you have to take it on


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