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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

My understanding is that a similar deal with cherry orchard is on the cards. It protects the schoolboy clubs development fees while giving us a conveyor belt of talent to bring through the 15/17/19 and tie down the cream to contracts. Ideal model if you ask me.
You make it sound like the Junkies invented this.
 
This is the new FAI Development Pathway introduced by the good Doktor.
 
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Such a shame that Pats have given up on youth production then, isn't it.

I'm assuming that the existing Crumlin set up will benefit from input from the Pats coaching staff? 


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Will head along for the opener tomorrow. 3 points and a few goals please, 

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Been a long wait after a poor finish last time. Optimistic heading into the new season I must say
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

My understanding is that a similar deal with cherry orchard is on the cards. It protects the schoolboy clubs development fees while giving us a conveyor belt of talent to bring through the 15/17/19 and tie down the cream to contracts. Ideal model if you ask me.
You make it sound like the Junkies invented this.
 
This is the new FAI Development Pathway introduced by the good Doktor.
 

No need to reinvent the wheel Gary, we aren't looking to go on Dragons Den
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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Been a long wait after a poor finish last time. Optimistic heading into the new season I must say

I'm very interested to see how the centre midfield works out. We've had some big losses in that area over the last year. What do you reckon will be the starting 3 in the centre will be assuming Bucko plays the same system as usual? 
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Does anyone have any insight to how transfer money works for pats and crumlin for players that sign for english clubs at 14/15? Will pats see any of this money or does it all go to crumlin as the players technically wont be playing for pats until 16/17 for the next few years anyway? Also if a player joins pats and plays 17 and 19 and then leaves will they only get a 2 year development fee with the rest going to crumlin?
This is the only issue I can see with the partnership.
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Big losses in the middle of the park alright, think we could be out muscled here in games at times (Bray away already shown this)
Changes were needed though to freshen things up and Killian/Chambers were on the other side of 30. 
Bolger is a massive loss, I think desmond might end up in that role at some stage throughout the season. 
There's definitely more goals in us with Corcoran and Timlin joining and Fagan back from injury. 

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Originally posted by Doyler1993 Doyler1993 wrote:

Does anyone have any insight to how transfer money works for pats and crumlin for players that sign for english clubs at 14/15? Will pats see any of this money or does it all go to crumlin as the players technically wont be playing for pats until 16/17 for the next few years anyway? Also if a player joins pats and plays 17 and 19 and then leaves will they only get a 2 year development fee with the rest going to crumlin?
This is the only issue I can see with the partnership.

Development fee goes to Crumlin and then because said player is under the age of 23, St Pats would be entitled to compensation via a tribunal. 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Doyler1993 Doyler1993 wrote:

Does anyone have any insight to how transfer money works for pats and crumlin for players that sign for english clubs at 14/15? Will pats see any of this money or does it all go to crumlin as the players technically wont be playing for pats until 16/17 for the next few years anyway? Also if a player joins pats and plays 17 and 19 and then leaves will they only get a 2 year development fee with the rest going to crumlin?
This is the only issue I can see with the partnership.


Development fee goes to Crumlin and then because said player is under the age of 23, St Pats would be entitled to compensation via a tribunal. 

My understanding is there are set fees to be paid by St.Pats. Increasing the longer crumlin have been training the player. Crumlin maintain a sell on clause if the player is sold on by Pats.
The exact figures were released about a year back by the FAI. They are pretty paltry so it's in both Junior and LOI clubs interests to work together and produce top quality players that command big transfer fees.
There won't be tribunals every time a LOI club takes a player off a junior club or sells them on. The whole U17&19 league structure would fall apart.
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Odds of 3/4 away to Bray tonight, I'm all over that! 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Odds of 3/4 away to Bray tonight, I'm all over that! 


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What's the craic with the 'singing section', for want of a better phrase at the games, they seem to be a lot quieter than last season. 

 
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The cowbell seems to have been binned
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Down in limerick for the EA final last night. Great atmosphere and pats fans in majority were fine, but I also witnessed some unsavoury scenes inside and outside the ground from a small number of their fans. Bit of banter is fine but it was like something from the football factory in a couple of incidents. One of them being as i left the pub with family (young lads included) a group approached us very aggressively threatening us and calling us sheep shaggers, boggers etc. Which was funny in a way as we were all dubs. In the end they were more just mouth pieces as they didnt come too close but the kids and women were a bit shocked.

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I'd be fairly worried about the direction Pats are going in at the moment. Last season was poor overall and there havent been many big additions to the squad. It's great that Fagan signed back and hopefully Cregg will add a bit of steel to the midfield. I don't know much about Alex O'Hanlon except he was at Liverpool.

Generally though, there seems to be a bit of a malaise about the club. There is a lack of updates or excitement even on social media. 

The record of bringing young players through has been very useful over the past few seasons so hopefully that continues this year. I think that's the only hope for a strong season.

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Looks like I'm chatting to myself in here but I'm comfortable with that Smile

Good result for Saints last night against Bray. I wasn't at it so I don't know what sort of team Bray had out but a 4 nil loss at home isn't great. Nice to see Fagan off the mark with a couple of goals and also one for O'Hanlon. Need to keep Fagan fit. 
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