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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Was nodding in agreement until I saw the RW

Not sure I’d have long there either mind you 
Robinson’s been more miss than hit for us and I’m not convinced with Maguire 

Ah I'm only brainstorming, there could have been a few players moved around or different ones selected just as easy.

I suppose I was thinking that if we played that formation which in essence becomes a 3-4-3 when we're attacking (so you would want 3 out and out attacking players on the pitch) the likes of Maguire and Robinson would slot seamlessly into it and would provide a proper goal threat also.

We also wouldn't be exposed defensively by carrying two attack mind wingers because we'd have a flat back 5 out of possession and at least 1 if not 2 centre midfielders not overly high up the pitch. 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

I'd like to see this team but to be honest as long as Whelan and mcclean are nowhere near the team we should be ok.


                        Randolph 

                 Duffy   Egan   Clark                       

         Molumby McCarthy Cullen
Doherty                                     Stevens 
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Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

I think the key to qualifying is Doherty starting instead of Coleman and Glenn Whelan not starting . If Mick has the balls to make them changes we'll have a far better chance to qualifying 

I traveled to Tbilisi and Geneva, and witnessed in person more than you can on camera - Whelan plays with his heart on his sleeve, he gives everything he has, he's effective in doing what he does. I would start Whelan. 
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100pc as much as I've slated him before he was our best player in both games his performances for us defies his age and club situation so he's worth sticking with, I'd drop Hendrick for McCarthy, Casper the ghost would have more presence in midfield than him 

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As much as we all love Glenn lets look at the facts. His age, the hearts debacle and now hes playing in League 1. I think we need to be looking at our other options. We need to move on i think. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

As much as we all love Glenn lets look at the facts. His age, the hearts debacle and now hes playing in League 1. I think we need to be looking at our other options. We need to move on i think. 

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Mick has some "damned if he does/doesn't" decisions to make regarding personnel. Possibly some ballsy choices to make. I'm as bonkers deluded, and full of hope on match day as the next fan, but here's a guarantee: If we play the same midfield that stank out this campaign, we're not qualifying. 
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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

I think the key to qualifying is Doherty starting instead of Coleman and Glenn Whelan not starting . If Mick has the balls to make them changes we'll have a far better chance to qualifying 

I traveled to Tbilisi and Geneva, and witnessed in person more than you can on camera - Whelan plays with his heart on his sleeve, he gives everything he has, he's effective in doing what he does. I would start Whelan. 


The problem is Glenn Whelan is that he offers very very little when we have possession and that kills the game for us.

Glenn Whelan is a 'midfielder', meaning he plays in the midfield position. 

Just because we prefix it with 'defensive' it is assumed that his responsibility in any attacking sense is null and void... it's not!

The distinction is that he is not a 'defender in a midfield position', he is a midfielder with a more defensive focus. 

Otherwise we may just as well play Duffy in midfield.
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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

I think the key to qualifying is Doherty starting instead of Coleman and Glenn Whelan not starting . If Mick has the balls to make them changes we'll have a far better chance to qualifying 

I traveled to Tbilisi and Geneva, and witnessed in person more than you can on camera - Whelan plays with his heart on his sleeve, he gives everything he has, he's effective in doing what he does. I would start Whelan. 


LOL

Love when the line is run on the forum about ‘bar stoolers’ listening to Dunphy about Whelan. Most people on this forum go to matches and thus probably rarely, if ever, hear Dunphy or anyone else’s views on Whelan.

But we can see with our own eyes that in his 12 year Ireland career he has been the bridesmaid. Since his debut every manager we have had has been conservative and thus he suits the systems. Never man of the match in an Irish jersey to my memory and he’s nearing a ton of caps. 

Our big wins of the last decade came when he wasn’t in the team.

Is there anyone else at this juncture to take his place or Be a real game changer? Probably not. But we can’t be confident with a team that has Whelan in the heart of the midfield and having been to two games seeing him with his proverbial on his sleeve just highlights how deprived we are of talent at the moment than identifying a winning formula...
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

As much as we all love Glenn . . .

doherty: Are you just back from Pluto? The poor guy has been battered from pillar to post - some comments about Whelan on this forum, both recent and historic, would make a cockroach blush. 

Talking of which, Pipsqueak must have been in the cargo hold. Only someone in desperate oxygen debt would spew out such claptrap. Whelan was one of our best three in the qualifiers, and was voted man-of-the-match at least twice. Give him his due. You're the type who decides (sorry, analyses) how Whelan played before the match. Have a read of xRedmanLFCx - someone who knows what he's talking about.

Where did I say he wasn’t one of the best players in a campaign that saw us score 7 goals in 8 matches of which 3 were against Gibraltar?

I actually said I couldn’t pick a player that would be a game changer if he took over his position Clap

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

As much as we all love Glenn . . .

doherty: Are you just back from Pluto? The poor guy has been battered from pillar to post - some comments about Whelan on this forum, both recent and historic, would make a cockroach blush. 

Talking of which, Pipsqueak must have been in the cargo hold. Only someone in desperate oxygen debt would spew out such claptrap. Whelan was one of our best three in the qualifiers, and was voted man-of-the-match at least twice. Give him his due. You're the type who decides (sorry, analyses) how Whelan played before the match. Have a read of xRedmanLFCx - someone who knows what he's talking about.

Where did I say he wasn’t one of the best players in a campaign that saw us score 7 goals in 8 matches of which 3 were against Gibraltar?

I actually said I couldn’t pick a player that would be a game changer if he took over his position Clap

What language are you speaking baby? 

"But we can’t be confident with a team that has Whelan in the heart of the midfield and having been to two games seeing him with his proverbial on his sleeve just highlights how deprived we are of talent at the moment than identifying a winning formula..."

I suffered to make sense of your navel gaze. If the two games you attended were at the qualifiers you would have seen Whelan more than justify his selection. He had a strong campaign overall.

You declare Whelan was only selected by various managers because he suited their systems. What a scoop.

You conclude with a moving croi de coeur on the shortage of Irish midfield talent - that it allows selection for a player like Whelan. So after nearly 100 caps, he's still a beneficiary of "the systems". 

Now you ask: "Where did I say Whelan wasn't one of our best in the campaign? 

You've covered all angles, baby dribbler.


Mr. Brick, save your "viperous" comments for the Whelan thread. I can't bear to hear you refer to posters as "mudslinging begrudgers".

Whelan is over the hill, his legs are gone. If we qualify, we need McCarthy in midfield. END OF


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

I think the key to qualifying is Doherty starting instead of Coleman and Glenn Whelan not starting . If Mick has the balls to make them changes we'll have a far better chance to qualifying 


I traveled to Tbilisi and Geneva, and witnessed in person more than you can on camera - Whelan plays with his heart on his sleeve, he gives everything he has, he's effective in doing what he does. I would start Whelan. 



The problem is Glenn Whelan is that he offers very very little when we have possession and that kills the game for us.

Glenn Whelan is a 'midfielder', meaning he plays in the midfield position. 

Just because we prefix it with 'defensive' it is assumed that his responsibility in any attacking sense is null and void... it's not!

The distinction is that he is not a 'defender in a midfield position', he is a midfielder with a more defensive focus. 

Otherwise we may just as well play Duffy in midfield.


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

I think the key to qualifying is Doherty starting instead of Coleman and Glenn Whelan not starting . If Mick has the balls to make them changes we'll have a far better chance to qualifying 

I traveled to Tbilisi and Geneva, and witnessed in person more than you can on camera - Whelan plays with his heart on his sleeve, he gives everything he has, he's effective in doing what he does. I would start Whelan. 


The problem is Glenn Whelan is that he offers very very little when we have possession and that kills the game for us.

Glenn Whelan is a 'midfielder', meaning he plays in the midfield position. 

Just because we prefix it with 'defensive' it is assumed that his responsibility in any attacking sense is null and void... it's not!

The distinction is that he is not a 'defender in a midfield position', he is a midfielder with a more defensive focus. 

Otherwise we may just as well play Duffy in midfield.

I don't question Glenn Whelans dedication,  but no on can argue a fit James McCarthy playing in the premier league will give us a far greater chance of qualifying than Glenn Whelan getting games in a league 1 side. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

As much as we all love Glenn . . .

doherty: Are you just back from Pluto? The poor guy has been battered from pillar to post - some comments about Whelan on this forum, both recent and historic, would make a cockroach blush. 

Talking of which, Pipsqueak must have been in the cargo hold. Only someone in desperate oxygen debt would spew out such claptrap. Whelan was one of our best three in the qualifiers, and was voted man-of-the-match at least twice. Give him his due. You're the type who decides (sorry, analyses) how Whelan played before the match. Have a read of xRedmanLFCx - someone who knows what he's talking about.

Where did I say he wasn’t one of the best players in a campaign that saw us score 7 goals in 8 matches of which 3 were against Gibraltar?

I actually said I couldn’t pick a player that would be a game changer if he took over his position Clap

What language are you speaking baby? 

"But we can’t be confident with a team that has Whelan in the heart of the midfield and having been to two games seeing him with his proverbial on his sleeve just highlights how deprived we are of talent at the moment than identifying a winning formula..."

I suffered to make sense of your navel gaze. If the two games you attended were at the qualifiers you would have seen Whelan more than justify his selection. He had a strong campaign overall.

You declare Whelan was only selected by various managers because he suited their systems. What a scoop.

You conclude with a moving croi de coeur on the shortage of Irish midfield talent - that it allows selection for a player like Whelan. So after nearly 100 caps, he's still a beneficiary of "the systems". 

Now you ask: "Where did I say Whelan wasn't one of our best in the campaign? 

You've covered all angles, baby dribbler.


Mr. Brick, save your "viperous" comments for the Whelan thread. I can't bear to hear you refer to posters as "mudslinging begrudgers".

Whelan is over the hill, his legs are gone. If we qualify, we need McCarthy in midfield. END OF

Didn't know you were the Fat Controller, directing posters to their appropriate bunkers. There is certainly a multitude of viperous comments on the Whelan thread - the vast majority unfairly aimed at the man himself by keyboard warriors and barstoolers getting their kicks. I make no apologies for redirecting the poo back in their faces. I'll continue to do so with gusto. And how they howl. So you "can't bear" to hear these heroes being called  mudslinging begrudgers? Well move aside, Mother Teresa, and you won't get hit.

PS: Of course Whelan's time is almost up - he's 36 for chrissakes. And I too would have McCarthy, if he shows interest, in the side ahead of him. END OF whatever.


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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

As much as we all love Glenn . . .

doherty: Are you just back from Pluto? The poor guy has been battered from pillar to post - some comments about Whelan on this forum, both recent and historic, would make a cockroach blush. 

Talking of which, Pipsqueak must have been in the cargo hold. Only someone in desperate oxygen debt would spew out such claptrap. Whelan was one of our best three in the qualifiers, and was voted man-of-the-match at least twice. Give him his due. You're the type who decides (sorry, analyses) how Whelan played before the match. Have a read of xRedmanLFCx - someone who knows what he's talking about.

Where did I say he wasn’t one of the best players in a campaign that saw us score 7 goals in 8 matches of which 3 were against Gibraltar?

I actually said I couldn’t pick a player that would be a game changer if he took over his position Clap

What language are you speaking baby? 

"But we can’t be confident with a team that has Whelan in the heart of the midfield and having been to two games seeing him with his proverbial on his sleeve just highlights how deprived we are of talent at the moment than identifying a winning formula..."

I suffered to make sense of your navel gaze. If the two games you attended were at the qualifiers you would have seen Whelan more than justify his selection. He had a strong campaign overall.

You declare Whelan was only selected by various managers because he suited their systems. What a scoop.

You conclude with a moving croi de coeur on the shortage of Irish midfield talent - that it allows selection for a player like Whelan. So after nearly 100 caps, he's still a beneficiary of "the systems". 

Now you ask: "Where did I say Whelan wasn't one of our best in the campaign? 

You've covered all angles, baby dribbler.


Mr. Brick, save your "viperous" comments for the Whelan thread. I can't bear to hear you refer to posters as "mudslinging begrudgers".

Whelan is over the hill, his legs are gone. If we qualify, we need McCarthy in midfield. END OF

Didn't know you were the Fat Controller, directing posters to their appropriate bunkers. There is certainly a multitude of viperous comments on the Whelan thread - the vast majority unfairly aimed at the man himself by keyboard warriors and barstoolers getting their kicks. I make no apologies for redirecting the poo back in their faces. I'll continue to do so with gusto. And how they howl. So you "can't bear" to hear these heroes being called  mudslinging begrudgers? Well move aside, Mother Teresa, and you won't get hit.

PS: Of course Whelan's time is almost up - he's 36 for chrissakes. And I too would have McCarthy, if he shows interest, in the side ahead of him. END OF whatever.


LOL

This place is a mad house!

A madhouse? Well don't let us distract you from splitting the atom. 


Between yours and Hans trolling, you have ruined endless topics that have gone completely off the rails.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Glenn Whelan and any other Irish footballer. Can we just keep the posts on topic for once instead of attempting to drag users names through the mud.


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The more I think about it, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see both Whelan AND McCarthy start out in Slovakia.
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The more I think about it, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see both Whelan AND McCarthy start out in Slovakia.

Jaysus.

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