Should Robbie Keane start the play-off if fit? |
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BigStrongMan
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we also have strikers who are playing well+scoring goals at the moment |
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Vivakenbarlow
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Long was very impressive at the weekend alright- he never stops running- i would pick walters and long for the first game
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1394416/Robbie-Keane-half-century-leaves-sitting-pretty-British-Irish-goalscoring-charts.html
I think his contribution to all round play has been poor recently but his ability to get the goal in tight games should always see him picked. Thought I'd post this link, important to put his 51 international goals in context!
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Trapped
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You'd still have to pick Keane because of his nack of scoring big goals for us when it matters. But if he's having a bad game i wouldn't be as reluctant to take him off as before. Long was immense on Sunday and has a genuine case to be starting. Cox and Walters have impressed too so it's time for Keane and Doyle to step up to the plate. Keane's in the twilight of his Ireland career but if he's not performing then there's no time for sentiment and he should be taken off - but still merits a start if fit. |
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He said he was ok against Andorra and ended up making his injury worse. Muscle injuries you can't rush them. If he rushes back with no game time behind him then I wouldn't play him. He needs to be 100%. I think with our alternative options available in Walters, Long, Cox and even Best, it is too much of a risk to be playing someone 70-80% fit, even if it is our all time record goalscorer
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DangerHere
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If Keane is fit I'd say it will be Long and Keane starting, as it seems Trap considers Long to be Doyles replacement and Cox to be Keane's. Keane not fit, it will be Long and Cox (finally Long Cox....the headlines write themselves...."Estonia buggered by Long Cox") That will still leave the option of Walters to come off the bench and potentially Best too. I fancy ANY of the above mentioned strikers to get goals
Edited by DangerHere - 18 Oct 2011 at 6:16am |
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BigStrongMan
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considering Long has had fook all game time in the last 2,i reckon he has no chance of starting unfortunetly |
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Don't forget the venue is called Le Coq. |
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DangerHere
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Oh I know they did yeah, but since then he has said that he sees Cox as a Keane style player and Long as a Doyle style player. I presume that is why Cox started against Armenia ahead of Long.
I had forgotten that the stadium was Le Coq.....you couldn't make this stuff up Edited by DangerHere - 18 Oct 2011 at 6:46am |
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Doyle has been well of the pace the last three games too. We're blessed we have some good options up front.
Keane and Doyle are not undroppable and Trapattoni isn't doing his job if he doesn't look at alternatives |
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Reality is Keane would need to have a leg hanging off him for Trap not to pick him. And Robbie has done the business in playoffs in the past, so if fit, he should start. The lads behind him in the pecking order may put in more mileage and industry during games but Trap will never pick them ahead of a fit Keane...or Doyle for that matter.
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Keane would need to have had a game or two under his belt before playing in the playoff. He's not playing well and he has missed a handful of sitters for us in recent games. My feeling is Long and Walters.
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on a side note O Shea left full+Coleman right full would keep me happy |
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Why would Trap drop Cox? If Robbie's not fit then he'll stick with him. Remember, Trap always goes by what he's gotten from people before. So Walters won't get a start unless it's instead of Robbie/Long.
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If Robbie is fit he starts no questions asked (and so he should) - the real worry is 60% fit Robbie starting and Trap refusing to take him off when clearly knackered after 50 minutes.
If Robbie isn't fully fit it has to be Long Cox up front with Walters as an ideal battering ram in last 25 mins as centre backs are knackered from chasing Long all night!
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Indeed. If he's not playing well or looking badly out of sorts, he should be subbed.
So we judge him solely on his last three games? Once again, he's our top scorer in this campaign with five goals. Lads calling for Keane to be dropped, need their heads examined.
Quite simply we don't have another player of his calibre who gets into goal scoring opportunities, regardless of the missed chances. Incidently, if Trap only sees Long as a direct replacement for Doyle, on current form, he too should be starting |
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BigStrongMan
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but ye could argue that he hasnt been fit for a while now |
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GreenPodge
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Hes the man with the experience in playoffs so no doubt he should start, also hes our captain and hes our top scorer in this campaign, needed a ridiculous own goal and our centre back to get the goals against Armenia. Also Trap will start him if he is anywhere near fit!! but the problem is how fit will he be, not very id say
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