Shane Long |
Post Reply | Page <1 254255256257258 306> |
Author | |||
The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Got an assist, so couldn't have been that awful.
|
|||
We're decent enough..
|
|||
Sponsored Links | |||
HuntysCousin
Jack Charlton Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Location: Waterford Status: Offline Points: 5241 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
He really was
|
|||
AntrimMan
Jack Charlton YBIG's resident Nordy/London Hipster Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 9442 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
An assist is such a meaningless stat. If you pass a ball 5 yards to someome 50 yards from goal and the guy beats 7 men and scores its an assist. Long was dreadful. Through on goal up the middle and he hits a tame effort right at the keeper. Had a tap in on a plate but didnt attack the ball and allowed vertongen to clear. Admittedly good defending but still. Hes a striker that doesnt score goals and ultimately, thats not good enough. |
|||
@AntrimMan85
|
|||
Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Shane Long is an absolutely top lad and one of the most honest professionals there is be it through his work rate and how he carries himself on and off the field.
Sadly, his time in the PL has ran it's course and offers very little. A move to the MLS or somewhere might reignite his career.
|
|||
"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
|||
Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
True dat but at 31 I'd rather see him in the championship. See if he can get a decent number of goals. 15-20 etc would be okay. I hope he is better than the MLS right now. |
|||
|
|||
pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
He isn't. The game was on in the background where I was today and he was absolutely horrific. He is nowhere near even Championship level right now.
|
|||
Cathal Sheehan
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 19 Dec 2015 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 51 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Do you ever have anything positive to say about an Irish players.
|
|||
The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
It's the most important pass in the build-up to a goal. If you judged David Silva/Kevin de Bruyne etc. purely on the goals they've scored, you'd think they were nothing special. Judge them on the goals they've created however, and you get a different picture. As for Long, he's generally played well for Southampton this season despite not scoring, hence why he's played so many games ahead of the more prolific Austin/Gabbiadini. He's in an awful run of goal-scoring form, but his general performances haven't really suffered. That would suggest he hasn't succumbed to an age-related decline or anything of the sort, he's just desperately low on confidence. The MLS/not good enough for the Championship comments are laughable, when he gets his confidence back he'll be as good as he's ever been. Edited by The O'Shea - 26 Dec 2017 at 7:35pm |
|||
We're decent enough..
|
|||
AntrimMan
Jack Charlton YBIG's resident Nordy/London Hipster Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 9442 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
T'is. But one assist doesnt mean he's played well. He was playing up front, not as a winger or creative midfielder. No questioning his work rate or commitment but the lack of goals is something much more than out of form. Higher end of the championship would do him no harm at all i think. |
|||
@AntrimMan85
|
|||
The Huntacha
Roy Keane Joined: 27 Mar 2012 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 12704 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Commentator on the highlights on MOTD mentioned that since Long last scored, Harry Kane had scored 47 goals (before yesterday's hat-trick). There's obviously no comparison between the 2 players, but that's an awful stat.
|
|||
Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
|
|||
thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7151 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
He's done at saints. How he gets on ahead of gabbiadiani is beyond me. He's been utter sh*te the last two years
|
|||
deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I wonder what Southampton will spend the VVD money on, I doubt its going to be good news for Long anyway.
|
|||
Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.....
|
|||
pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I still think it is a pretty meaningless stat, I'm sure De Bruyne, for example, wouldn't have half the assists if he was setting up the chances for a profligate striker. I think 'clear-cut chances created' would be a far better metric to be used more regularly, but that doesn't really appeal in this zeitgeist where everything has to be immediate and tangible and, let's face it, Americanised.
|
|||
The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Just because the Americans came up with something doesn't mean it's useless. The concept of the assist is entirely intuitive; in an attacking sense, the most valuable player in a team after a goalscorer is the guy who creates opportunities for the goalscorer. De Bruyne, Silva, Mata, Iniesta etc. would provide hatfuls of assists regardless of who their teammates were, simply because they're so brilliant at playing incisive passes.
|
|||
We're decent enough..
|
|||
pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
As I clearly said above it isn't entirely intuitive, the statistic that shows the number of clear cut chances created would be much closer to being entirely intuitive. I'm sure the players who have played alongside Long the most would have seen their assist stats drop due to his drought. |
|||
MC Hammered
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 6834 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
His career trajectory has been eerily similar to Kevin Doyle's
|
|||
El Puto Amo
|
|||
The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Define a "clear cut chance"? In any case, there is a widely used "chances created" stat. Assists are rightly regarded as a superior measure of a players creativity. |
|||
We're decent enough..
|
|||
The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
It's nothing like Doyle's. Kevin got a bad injury and was effectively finished by the age of 28/29, Long had arguably his best ever season at 28/29. Whereas Long's issues over the last year has been scoring goals, Doyle's issue was primarily a deterioration of his athleticism, something that does not seem to have effected Long as of yet. |
|||
We're decent enough..
|
|||
Post Reply | Page <1 254255256257258 306> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |