Shane Duffy

horsebox wrote: rolo wrote: McG wrote: horsebox wrote: Dick Keogh has never let us down and arguably never deserved to lose his place in the team...but that's another story. Agree with this. Played a dreadful ball straight to Bale in a dangerous position in March and the latter nearly punished us, ball just went wide.  Keogh hasnt been seen since. MON clearly decided he can't fully trust him, drafted in Long the next day against Austria. Duffy has been making mistakes every game, whether it's being completely being caught out of position or extremely poor possession and giving the ball away cheaply. Keogh has probably made the same amount of mistakes as you've got your hole.

Keogh is a bomb scare. Has zero composure or pace.

deise316 wrote: rolo wrote: McG wrote: horsebox wrote: Dick Keogh has never let us down and arguably never deserved to lose his place in the team...but that's another story. Agree with this. Played a dreadful ball straight to Bale in a dangerous position in March and the latter nearly punished us, ball just went wide.  Keogh hasnt been seen since. MON clearly decided he can't fully trust him, drafted in Long the next day against Austria. Ye are also forgetting the Mexico friendly, even though out of position for a good bit of that game, he was awful that night- I said here somewhere that he was after playing his way out of the team to face Austria, and that proved to be the case.  Kevin Long is the next fella in line by the looks of things, that said, I wouldn't be overly worried if any of Long, JOS or Keogh had to step in for Clark or Duffy in one or both games.

Wasn't even thinking about the friendlies as I'd tend to give the players a pass in experimental matches. O'Neill played very open in that game and we were cut to ribbons. I don't think Keogh would've been as exposed if that was a competitive game. Doesn't completely excuse Keogh mind.

Long did okay vs Austria for his first start.

Edited by irishmufc - 16 Oct 2017 at 9:00am

dubstep wrote: Keogh is a very ordinary footballer who has played at a very ordinary level all of his career for a reason. If Duffy is injured it has to be O'Shea.

Coz you you are Keogh! Keogh!
Always believe in your soul!
You've got the power to know
You're indestructible!
Always believe in
Richard Keogh! Keogh!

When has he lost it playing for us?

I don't ever remember him making any mistakes.

The O'Shea wrote: colemanY2K wrote: Keogh is a bomb scare. Has zero composure or pace. He's probably the quickest centre-back we have? As for composure, he does seem to lose it when playing for us, but he's always looked extremely composed for Derby, which would suggest it's something that could be corrected.

horsebox wrote: irishmufc wrote: horsebox wrote: When has he lost it playing for us? I don't ever remember him making any mistakes. Who Keogh or Duffy? Keogh.

horsebox wrote: When has he lost it playing for us? I don't ever remember him making any mistakes.

Loses his composure, not necessarily the ball (albeit he has done that a few times, eg Bale). When he plays for Derby he regularly carries the ball out of defence, plays constructive passes etc., whereas for Ireland his first instinct is to belt the ball away. Scotland was a great example, he defended well but sh*t himself every time the ball came near him. As I've said, it's just nerves rather than a lack of ability, so it can be corrected.

There's hoofing it (like Clark and Duffy), and there's belting it like Keogh often does. Whereas the former might take a moment to steady themselves, or even look up, before launching the ball, Keogh seems to be overcome by such panic that he hacks the ball just about anywhere whether he's being closed down or under no pressure at all. It's unusual, because he certainly has more ability on the ball than Duffy, and perhaps even Clark too.

Edited by The O'Shea - 16 Oct 2017 at 12:26pm