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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Nowhere close (or will ever be) for international standard football. LOI or a step up is his level.


And would yer views on him be any way coloured by his miserable spell at Sligo by any chance ?? 


 
 
Yes and no deise. In fairness I did see him play a lot more than most people, even if it was a few years ago. I'm sure he has improved but his attitude was questionable with us.
 
West Ham, no impact. Sligo Rovers, no impact. Accrington Stanley, no real impact. Dundalk, no impact. He's had a good season with Cork last year and is doing Ok this season, but remember Cork are head and shoulders above most other teams in LOI and brushing teams aside. A half decent striker should be scoring plenty in that Cork team in fairness.
 
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him and he can go up a level or two, but international level would be a shock. Good luck to him.
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Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Nowhere close (or will ever be) for international standard football. LOI or a step up is his level.


And would yer views on him be any way coloured by his miserable spell at Sligo by any chance ?? 


 
 
Yes and no deise. In fairness I did see him play a lot more than most people, even if it was a few years ago. I'm sure he has improved but his attitude was questionable with us.
 
West Ham, no impact. Sligo Rovers, no impact. Accrington Stanley, no real impact. Dundalk, no impact. He's had a good season with Cork last year and is doing Ok this season, but remember Cork are head and shoulders above most other teams in LOI and brushing teams aside. A half decent striker should be scoring plenty in that Cork team in fairness.
 
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him and he can go up a level or two, but international level would be a shock. Good luck to him.
You're not being harsh at all, you're spot on.  He's doing very well in a very good Cork side, as you said any decent LOI striker would be scoring a good few in that team.  He'll never be good enough for the national team.
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Brilliant finish.Clap
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Hat-trick in front of MON and Roy.. all poacher's goals.. the boy has timing, you can give him that.
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Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:

Hat-trick in front of MON and Roy.. all poacher's goals.. the boy has timing, you can give him that.

It would do him no harm even training with the squad for the next few days.


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He was absolutely superb tonight, his movement is so good. I think he has left us a league title after tonight.
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Picked the perfect night to score a hattrick.
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3 great finishes tonight. Will cork have him for their European matches in july?
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Martin O Neill is a dinosaur and you would hope he would give the chap a chance but can't see it happening. Who else have we that has the pace and feet of Seanie Mc and is fit to play fir us up front
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You've got to take in the opposition. There f**king dire.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

You've got to take in the opposition. There f**king dire.
I agree with this to an extent,grammar aside, but I have also said that when a player looks far better than his opponents he needs to be assessed on that. The Ireland manager has too small a pool to be waiting on another manager in England to vindicate his selection.
I am the first to admit that the LOI is very, very poor, but Seani is not. A look at him in a friendly would have helped him, the league and the buyer and it would have cost nothing.
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Loi is not very very poor it's a decent standard. Maguire movement, finishing and link up play is top class. He will have a good career in England no doubt.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

You've got to take in the opposition. There f**king dire.


Yea sure they are dire but so are our opinions . More to gain than to lose
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Originally posted by dubstep dubstep wrote:

Loi is not very very poor it's a decent standard. Maguire movement, finishing and link up play is top class. He will have a good career in England no doubt.
It is poor, by and large, but Cork City have a decent team and a player in Maguire who is superb. I was questioning him and his attitude, privately, the past few weeks but that was sensational tonight. This was a huge game, for both clubs, and he did that. He is a superb striker and will, if he gets a chance, do very well at Preston.
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If anyone believes Murphy, Rooney, Sheridan, McGoldrick, Doyle, etc. wouldn't be doing exactly the same in the LOI they're kidding themselves unfortunately. Maguire has something, but exactly what it is is hard to gauge playing at that level.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

If anyone believes Murphy, Rooney, Sheridan, McGoldrick, Doyle, etc. wouldn't be doing exactly the same in the LOI they're kidding themselves unfortunately. Maguire has something, but exactly what it is is hard to gauge playing at that level.
This here is the problem......... It is the ability to cut the wheat from the chaff, and not wait for a manager in England to do so. Same argument with Enda Stevens, as an example. You shouldn't need a second opinion! I know the LOI is sh*te, Seani is better than it. Therefore, worth a look!
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

If anyone believes Murphy, Rooney, Sheridan, McGoldrick, Doyle, etc. wouldn't be doing exactly the same in the LOI they're kidding themselves unfortunately. Maguire has something, but exactly what it is is hard to gauge playing at that level.

This here is the problem......... It is the ability to cut the wheat from the chaff, and not wait for a manager in England to do so. Same argument with Enda Stevens, as an example. You shouldn't need a second opinion! I know the LOI is sh*te, Seani is better than it. Therefore, worth a look!


Maguire is clearly a useful player, the problem is that the guys ahead of him have also looked useful at a much higher standard than the LOI. I thoroughly believe McGoldrick and Murphy would score 30+ goals a year if they were playing in the LOI, so it makes it difficult to judge whether or not Maguire is any improvement on them. He deserves a shot in training either way, but I wouldn't be getting overly carried away with him at the same time.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

If anyone believes Murphy, Rooney, Sheridan, McGoldrick, Doyle, etc. wouldn't be doing exactly the same in the LOI they're kidding themselves unfortunately. Maguire has something, but exactly what it is is hard to gauge playing at that level.

This here is the problem......... It is the ability to cut the wheat from the chaff, and not wait for a manager in England to do so. Same argument with Enda Stevens, as an example. You shouldn't need a second opinion! I know the LOI is sh*te, Seani is better than it. Therefore, worth a look!


Maguire is clearly a useful player, the problem is that the guys ahead of him have also looked useful at a much higher standard than the LOI. I thoroughly believe McGoldrick and Murphy would score 30+ goals a year if they were playing in the LOI, so it makes it difficult to judge whether or not Maguire is any improvement on them. He deserves a shot in training either way, but I wouldn't be getting overly carried away with him at the same time.
I am not sure anyone is getting overly carried away! I just think that when someone stands out, as Maguire does, he should be looked at.
I am also not sure that McGoldrick would hit thirty in the West Cork league, that lad is awful. *

*Hyperbole may be involved!
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