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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Online Points: 15254 |
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Any criteria in whichever sc had should surely have the Principal that the more games you attend the more 'deserving' are of tickets - like your own ? I will also be seeking clarification that should people be unhappy and leave a sc that their record goes with them as if not you can essentially never leave or you lose your record Surely a universal scheme with the FAI is the way forward sc members with records have nothing to fear ? |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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Phil Babb Joined: 24 Aug 2017 Location: mullingar Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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Are you a member of a supporters club?? this club needs to be named if treating loyal members like that.
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9fingers
Paul McGrath Ballymun Resident #MONKEANO Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 16125 |
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Surely it’d be better to name the club in question so as to not tar all the supporters clubs with the same brush?
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darmack
Ray Houghton Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4692 |
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So say a young lad who has 4 away games for each of the last 2 campaigns (so 8 in total) joins a SC he would/should be near the top of the list. But then there's Jack (fictional person) who does 2 every campaign for the past 20 years with the same lads who run the club, that's surely going to rustle a few cages.
There's no winning.
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The dark side.. And the light
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Jack Charlton The F The F The FAI Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Location: Abbottstown Status: Offline Points: 9155 |
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deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
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Good point Murph, but if the FAI/Confederation do exactly that (make criteria for SCs all the same)- they may as well go the whole hog & make that the criteria for FD as well. Which is what some of us have been saying all along. I've said this before, but back when I started going to away games, the tinternet was only in its infancy and I wasn't even aware that SC's even existed. Aways were better attended back then, and for 5 of my first 8 away games, I didn't get any ticket off the FAI, those games were all over subscribed, and naturally enough, I was well down the list for official tickets. Through attending games, obviously this changed over time. But for a young lad or woman today, maybe reading stuff on here, he/she could easily come to the conclusion that joining an SC would be the way forward. For this particular lad, who would meet any criteria for a ticket in FD, it must be pretty galling that he unfortunately picked one where rules are selectively applied. Even though the confederation don't post on here as such, I'm sure certain members of it dip in to Ybig from time to time. There was also a more recently set up SC, who when setting up, spoke of a rake of noble intentions, such as changing the system from the inside & working with the FAI to do so. Aye. Even though this may be an isolated incident (and to be fair, we don't know that either, it's has often been said by certain SC members that Ybig doesn't speak for all fans as a lot aren't on here, well the same might well apply to disgruntled SC members, who might not be on here either), the silence from the likes of them so far tells it's own story, mainly one of self interest, which again, some of us pointed out at the time. |
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deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
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Not really following you here chief, unless you mean that this particular SC has greater value on 30 years of block booking/STs than going to away games ?? In which case, that should be made clear at the start, because as regards obtaining tickets for away games, tis a waste of time joining it until lads literally start dying off. No club should be allowed do that, makes the whole thing a closed shop for young people. (apologies if I have misinterpreted). |
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kevincronin2000
Jack Charlton Cork Airport Dogging Administrator Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Location: P. Rep of Cork Status: Offline Points: 5285 |
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A request has or is in the process of being made for a copy of the Constitution or the minutes of the meeting ) AGM where this rule was passed. I presume when these can't be provided there is an option to go down a legal route. Now I'd imagine it wont come to this but I'll keep it quiet for the Moment. When resolved I'm sure we can name and shame then. Mind you it's not difficult to work out from my first couple of posts on this thread. |
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time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it.
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Butch
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Status: Offline Points: 3358 |
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Sure what harm is it to mention the name of the SC ? It will only go to putting a spotlight on the club in the future . Also f**k all decency in the club as I'm sure that certain people within that club know they don't deserve a ticket . I'm not deserving of a ticket but I hope to pick one up . Will I feel bad about it if I get one ? Not one bit as this is the problem because people always take too many leaving others short
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The GerK
Moderator Group Razor you wanna pint?...2 minutes later Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Status: Online Points: 20437 |
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The silence is deafening alright Back to Newry point. What do SC fear from a one system fits all approach? |
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Saint Tom
Jack Charlton Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9981 |
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Sure I have managed the pats fans home allocation for close on fifteen years. When a friend who was on the account decided to join a supporters club recently, he was asked to bring his 114 ticket with him.
Eh no Edited by Saint Tom - 23 Sep 2017 at 12:08pm |
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Scamper
Davey Langan Joined: 08 May 2012 Location: Tipperary Status: Offline Points: 831 |
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Not my call to make. but to answer your question no I wouldn't oppose it mate. I have 6-12 regular away travelling members and a scheme like that wouldn't change our chances any differently than what they are now. I am also friendly with and know many independent travelling fans on here such as Sham,Gerk,Freewheeler etc who for their sakes if nothing else a system would be fair and benefitial also.A fair system for all fans whether it be independent or SC? No I wouldn't oppose it Edited by Scamper - 23 Sep 2017 at 12:16pm |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32714 |
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For any system to work people need to fight as hard for strangers as much as for mates. That's the point of a good system. That it's got nothing to with mates or how much or how long you know someone
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Scamper
Davey Langan Joined: 08 May 2012 Location: Tipperary Status: Offline Points: 831 |
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Oh I agree mate and just to clarify my point was more to say I know what happens on both sides as I have people I know affected. Not to say I hope my mates get sorted. A system to reward the most deserving regardless who they are... I agree with you on that |
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Claret Murph
Paul McGrath Hmmm, Goodness, I must say Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 15724 |
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So to round this up , the people who have come on here who either help run SCs and members are happy to have a fair system for everyone .
So at least that's quite clear .
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kevincronin2000
Jack Charlton Cork Airport Dogging Administrator Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Location: P. Rep of Cork Status: Offline Points: 5285 |
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Tbf the majority of SC are very helpful, the amount of advise and help. I got from other supporters clubs was overwhelming. Just a few bad eggs leaving themselves down.
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time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it.
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9fingers
Paul McGrath Ballymun Resident #MONKEANO Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 16125 |
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Hence why I said name the club. I’m not & never will be a SC member but I can see the positives of being one, hence the bogeys should be called out |
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Online Points: 15254 |
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would the western branch be amenable ? though obviously I assume there would need to be some sort of vote ? I know your not a spokesperson I don't recall any objections when first discussed years ago though obviously things may have chamged
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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