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why do people think foley deserves to go ahead of coleman?serious question.
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Looks like he is going to miss out but I am certain he will be a big player for Ireland in the years to come. He is only 23 so he could be involved in 5 more campaigns.
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Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Alot of people are saying coleman has had a bad season which has been
disrupted reguarly by injury, and thus does not deserve to go to the Euros. Which may fair enough, but there others nailed-on to travel to the Euros who have also had poor seasons or been injured often 

Very true however the other you are talking about probably Hunt have a lot of experience in the game and the squad.
Enough in Traps mind to select them.
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Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Alot of people are saying coleman has had a bad season which has been
disrupted reguarly by injury, and thus does not deserve to go to the Euros. Which may fair enough, but there others nailed-on to travel to the Euros who have also had poor seasons or been injured often 

Very true however the other you are talking about probably Hunt have a lot of experience in the game and the squad.
Enough in Traps mind to select them.


Rainpaulo its not just Hunt I am talking about....O'Dea, Foley, St ledger, Cox, Long, Doyle & Gibson have all either had bad seasons at club level or had a season heavily disrupted by injury. Furthermore all these players are almost guaranteed there spot on the plane to poland and some do not possess  considerably more international experience than Coleman (ie O'Dea, foley &Cox). I think I am merely pointing out that Trap has never really fancied Coleman & maybe not treated him fairly compared to others.

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Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Alot of people are saying coleman has had a bad season which has been
disrupted reguarly by injury, and thus does not deserve to go to the Euros. Which may fair enough, but there others nailed-on to travel to the Euros who have also had poor seasons or been injured often 

Very true however the other you are talking about probably Hunt have a lot of experience in the game and the squad.
Enough in Traps mind to select them.


Rainpaulo its not just Hunt I am talking about....O'Dea, Foley, St ledger, Cox, Long, Doyle & Gibson have all either had bad seasons at club level or had a season heavily disrupted by injury. Furthermore all these players are almost guaranteed there spot on the plane to poland and some do not possess  considerably more international experience than Coleman (ie O'Dea, foley &Cox). I think I am merely pointing out that Trap has never really fancied Coleman & maybe not treated him fairly compared to others.


Long has done well at WBA , Gibson has been one of Evertons best players since he joined in Jan and St Ledger won his place in the Leicester line up after fighting for it no arguments with those 3 anyway.

Doyle has had one bad season in how many years , always a capable player for Ireland when called upon so his inclusion is never in doubt.

O'Dea in fairness to him got plenty of game time at Leeds and does well whenever he plays for Ireland + we are very short on cover at centre half.

Cox is Keane's natural replacement , his club situation in some peoples eye's that they might feel he should be left at home but this is international football and he has done well under Trap but the jury is still out imo.

Foley should be left at home , very poor season by his standards and Clark should be his replacement.

The thing about Coleman is Trap doesn't trust him to play at Right Back and the fact we've plenty of wingers to choose from doesn't help his cause , given Colemans injury's and lack of form makes it a no brainer to leave him at home i'm afraid.


Edited by Green Devil - 04 May 2012 at 2:24am
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Marc wilson should be the seventh defender as he can cover both left back,center back and center mid and he has been an ever present all season.In fact i would have him start ahead of ward at lb.Would love to know why trap has the sh*ts with him..
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by Real Irlanda Real Irlanda wrote:

Alot of people are saying coleman has had a bad season which has been
disrupted reguarly by injury, and thus does not deserve to go to the Euros. Which may fair enough, but there others nailed-on to travel to the Euros who have also had poor seasons or been injured often 

Very true however the other you are talking about probably Hunt have a lot of experience in the game and the squad.
Enough in Traps mind to select them.


Rainpaulo its not just Hunt I am talking about....O'Dea, Foley, St ledger, Cox, Long, Doyle & Gibson have all either had bad seasons at club level or had a season heavily disrupted by injury. Furthermore all these players are almost guaranteed there spot on the plane to poland and some do not possess  considerably more international experience than Coleman (ie O'Dea, foley &Cox). I think I am merely pointing out that Trap has never really fancied Coleman & maybe not treated him fairly compared to others.


Long has done well at WBA , Gibson has been one of Evertons best players since he joined in Jan and St Ledger won his place in the Leicester line up after fighting for it no arguments with those 3 anyway.

Doyle has had one bad season in how many years , always a capable player for Ireland when called upon so his inclusion is never in doubt.

O'Dea in fairness to him got plenty of game time at Leeds and does well whenever he plays for Ireland + we are very short on cover at centre half.

Cox is Keane's natural replacement , his club situation in some peoples eye's that they might feel he should be left at home but this is international football and he has done well under Trap but the jury is still out imo.

Foley should be left at home , very poor season by his standards and Clark should be his replacement.

The thing about Coleman is Trap doesn't trust him to play at Right Back and the fact we've plenty of wingers to choose from doesn't help his cause , given Colemans injury's and lack of form makes it a no brainer to leave him at home i'm afraid.



If you read my post I say those players either had a bad season or missed a big chunk of it like Coleman. I mentioned Gibson cos he only played half a season n suffered two bad injuries. Doyle had a bad season, Long has been injured alot this yr, O'Dea n StLedger have both had indifferent seasons. O'Dea is being released n there are rumours that Leicster are releasing St Ledger. I dont think we are too short at centrehalf as O'Shea, Clark, Wilson n even Kelly can play there. Also of the players I mentioed I would defiinetly bring  St ledger, Long, Doyle & Gibson.

I just think Coleman gets treated a little unfairly compared to others, but I respect Trap for his reasons for leavin him home as he is the manager after all.
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he def is treating coleman unfairly
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Originally posted by rodney trotter rodney trotter wrote:

Marc wilson should be the seventh defender as he can cover both left back,center back and center mid and he has been an ever present all season.In fact i would have him start ahead of ward at lb.Would love to know why trap has the sh*ts with him..

Something to do with him pulling out of squads last year and not bothering his arse to even tell the management why.
Also, as I said over in the stupid poll thread, Wilson is not going to hugely improve us at LB over Ward.
Think he's better in midfield really.

In regards Coleman, pretty much agree with what GreenDevil said. Unlucky with injuries this season. His time will come.


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why are people against coleman been in the squad?he is a hell of a lot a better player than foley,what has foley done to deserve automatic inclusion?i wouldnt bring any of the wolves lads all of them have been septic all season,went down without any sort of a fight!
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Love Trap- but I think our defence could be so much stronger if we had O'Shea partnering Dunne in the middle with Coleman on the right 
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Originally posted by wrestler313 wrestler313 wrote:

Love Trap- but I think our defence could be so much stronger if we had O'Shea partnering Dunne in the middle with Coleman on the right 


Coleman doesn't really play full back so why would you put him in there
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Originally posted by wrestler313 wrestler313 wrote:

Love Trap- but I think our defence could be so much stronger if we had O'Shea partnering Dunne in the middle with Coleman on the right 

My choice would be Kelly, Dunne, O'Shea and Wilson
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played well when he came on for last ten minutes
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Originally posted by connordonegal connordonegal wrote:

played well when he came on for last ten minutes

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Hopefully he can kick on now and rediscover the form that made him such a good prospect.
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love his energy and direct style, really lifts a team the work he does driving down the wing
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Done well when he came on last night alright. I hope Moyles doesn't see him as just someone to bring on with 10 minutes to go to inject a bit of pace into the side.
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Originally posted by SteviesGranny SteviesGranny wrote:

Done well when he came on last night alright. I hope Moyles doesn't see him as just someone to bring on with 10 minutes to go to inject a bit of pace into the side.
Once Moyes doesn't see him like that, he will be fine.
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