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Poll Question: Who was correct in their actions?
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    Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 11:38am
Roy in a tell all interview has revealed he didnt react strongly enough and let the manager away lightly
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Roy was too concerned with man United too give a damm!!

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Both could have handled it better.
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Do you really want me to tell yer .
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Was interesting to hear Duff saying he's not so sure we'd have done any better with Roy at the world cup , and what happened might have galvanised the squad together. I always thought that myself but didn't think id hear a member of the team saying it
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Are you not tired of this f**king conversation? It's almost as bad as the "We would have won the world cup" if we had beaten Spain, lol.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Both could have handled it better.

It's the easy option to call it 50/50 when it clearly isn't. Keane undermined his manager, had a history of indiscipline in the Irish set up going back to Charlton and let his country down on the eve of the world cup. He even stated in his own autobiography that United were his employer and they more it less took precedence over the national team.  The FAI's incompetence or McCarthy not stroking precious Roy's ego enough will ever excuse what Keane did. The other 22 squad of players did the country proud without their captain and best player who sat on his arse in Manchester. 

Keane's world class ability gives him a shield from his loyal followers who believe he  is right no matter what he does or did before. It's a waste of time debating with these people. They're loyal to Keane in the same way the Trumpists are with the Donald. He can do no wrong. 


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No option for them both being wrong?

I’m sure if they could go back in time things would be different.

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I reckon Delaney orchestrated the whole thing. He hasn’t looked back since.
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

I reckon Delaney orchestrated the whole thing. He hasn’t looked back since.

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

No option for them both being wrong?

I’m sure if they could go back in time things would be different.



It's good that there's no option for both being wrong because Keane was primarily the instigator in this no matter how much he or his fans can point to the FAI's incompetence as a backdrop. It was Keane's choice not to play in the 2002 world cup once he undermined his manager. 


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Keane was in wretched humour going into it but McCarthy accusing Keane of faking injury was outrageous.

Roy shoulda played and then let rip, McCarthy f**ked up badly calling that meeting and saying Keane didn't go to Iran faking injury. 

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Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:

Keane was in wretched humour going into it but McCarthy accusing Keane of faking injury was outrageous.

Roy shoulda played and then let rip, McCarthy f**ked up badly calling that meeting and saying Keane didn't go to Iran faking injury. 

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Not excusing McCarthy jumping with two feet in falsely accusing Keane in that instance but Keane's attitude towards the Irish team stunk years before that FW. Keane's commitment to this country should justifiably be questioned and you only need to read his book to see the contempt he had for our friendly games/tournaments out of his own words  not mine. Robbie Keane would give him a lesson in what it means to captain your country. 
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Both could have handled it better.

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Both could have handled it better except McCarthy.


Keane's newspaper interview where he sl*gged off players publicly was the end point. Saying thats why some of them.are playing where they are is no way for a captain to talk about hia fellow players. Krane had an enormous ego and still does and looked down on everyone else.  Even in Tommy Gormans interview he gets seriosuly offended when its put to him "if the team took you back"  and he replies "take ME back?? What do you mean take ME back" as if its him who should take them back for betraying him.

McCarthy had no choice but to have a clear the air meeting as the players wpuld have read that interview. Keane reacted badly and things had already gone too far when he was accused of faking injury (which he did).  He disappeared and didnt turn up for the US Cup in 1996 and basically hated McCarthy from the start and coupdnt wait for an opportunity to rip his head off.

Maybe McCarthy could have handled it better but I am not sure how.  Once Keane aired his views there was a toxic atmosphere that had to be confronted.  Also Keane had told McCarthy he wanted to go home bwfore arsing him about and changing his mind. What was all that about??  Would any sane person walk away from a World Cup because the footballs were a day late arriving?
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Who cares.  Doesn't matter who was right, who was wrong. There was no winner in the whole episode (maybe Matt holland).
If rather not remember it. 
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Was it better for Irish football that it happened?

As Duff said, would we have really got any further with Keane?

Is the team treated better now as a result?
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team managed to beat Saudi Arabia without him snd were unlucky against ten man Spain next round 
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