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eireland ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Status: Offline Points: 2904 |
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Clown take. Anybody can voluntarily join a defensive alliance. Especially if your countries sovereignty is directly threatened by an unfriendly neighbour.
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MayoMark ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() The NEW angrier Freewheeler Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Castlebar Status: Offline Points: 25858 |
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Lukashenko in serious bother it would seem
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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Deane ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2014 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 2820 |
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It isn't my "take". The question was asked, "what does Putin actually want?" I believe this is what he wants based on what I have read. I even shared an article by an academic that suggests that. I never said countries shouldn't join NATO or have the right to if they so choose, but please continue to read between the lines and create your own narratives.
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Het-field ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 9090 |
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But some key facts are missing in the article. Including the fact that the pro-Russian government was responsible for the revolution in 2014 over weakening links to the EU. The police then opened fire on protestors, killing 100 of the them. Around that time, then then pro-Russian President fled to start a new independent republic, and when that didn’t happen fled entirely to Russia. So the ‘Western backed coup’ line doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. But neither does the NATO encroachment argument. Especially, when as a counterweight, Russia has been encroaching on adjacent lands for years. Beyond Crimea, Russia had invaded small pockets of Ukraine before 2008, and lands in adjacent countries. Moldova and Georgia both have ‘separatists’ at play, and they are all very much Russian backed and Russian funded, while Russia plays off regions against each other in a divide and conquer approach. The provocation argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Not least because, in a political scientific sense it’s to be noted that it was very predictable who, in the public sphere would argue this point, and it is those who believe that America is bad and responsible for every I’ll that happens in the world.
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eireland ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Status: Offline Points: 2904 |
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Who gives a sh*t what the modern day Hitler wants. The only focus in the West should be giving Ukraine as much help as possible. |
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