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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote deise316 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 11:46pm
I was wrong, the Rugby lads did go against their own recommendation process, which the IRFU had been urging them to do, with the result that we finished even further behind. Be careful what you wish for & all that. 

Not a lot to attack the French with bar the security/terrorism angle, and that is extremely dodgy ground for Dick Spring & co to take, so they sensibly won't. I see now Wales & Scotland are to blame, maybe the Italians as well, for not voting for us. Shame on them.


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The IRFU have no one to blame for this only themselves, first step of their a bid was to build Connaught a new stadium to leave a legacy in that province instead of expecting the gaa to supply all the stadiums for the bid. Why would we be give the World Cup when The gaa was going to benefit in the long run and no legacy of improved facilities for Rugby in this country. In my opinion our bid was a joke and the IRFU should be ashamed of themselves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Borussia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:20am
Originally posted by Adobolo Adobolo wrote:

The IRFU have no one to blame for this only themselves, first step of their a bid was to build Connaught a new stadium to leave a legacy in that province instead of expecting the gaa to supply all the stadiums for the bid. Why would we be give the World Cup when The gaa was going to benefit in the long run and no legacy of improved facilities for Rugby in this country. In my opinion our bid was a joke and the IRFU should be ashamed of themselves.

Legacy wasn't a criteria for awarding of this so that is a non-issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denis Irwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:29am
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Originally posted by Adobolo Adobolo wrote:

The IRFU have no one to blame for this only themselves, first step of their a bid was to build Connaught a new stadium to leave a legacy in that province instead of expecting the gaa to supply all the stadiums for the bid. Why would we be give the World Cup when The gaa was going to benefit in the long run and no legacy of improved facilities for Rugby in this country. In my opinion our bid was a joke and the IRFU should be ashamed of themselves.


Legacy wasn't a criteria for awarding of this so that is a non-issue.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Devrozex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:41am
Apparently if the Scots and Welsh had voted for us it would have eliminated SA and forced a run-off second round vote with France. It would have been second preference votes predominately from the tri-nations unions so could have gone either way.
 
It's very disappointing but given the criteria laid out in the technical report it would appear our one chance of hosting is now gone. On a separate note it has to be a source of embarrassment for World Rugby that their own council voted against their recommendations - so much for 'transparency'. Can definitely see them changing the process for future world cups after this.

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TBH the recommendation was BS. The ranking of SA ahead of France was a joke
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

TBH the recommendation was BS. The ranking of SA ahead of France was a joke
 
Well yeah, the real joke being that the parameters of were not clearly laid down to the three bidding nations beforehand. This essentially meant that they could weight it to suit whatever outcome they had a preference for. Call me an aul cynic, but the fact that SA offered the highest bid fee, France the 2nd and Ireland the 3rd - and the recommendation went in that order is probably not entirely coincidental.

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Originally posted by Adobolo Adobolo wrote:

The IRFU have no one to blame for this only themselves, first step of their a bid was to build Connaught a new stadium to leave a legacy in that province instead of expecting the gaa to supply all the stadiums for the bid. Why would we be give the World Cup when The gaa was going to benefit in the long run and no legacy of improved facilities for Rugby in this country. In my opinion our bid was a joke and the IRFU should be ashamed of themselves.
France's bid consists almost entirely of association football stadiums.


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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

TBH the recommendation was BS. The ranking of SA ahead of France was a joke
The real joke is that France are getting the tournament 16 years after hosting it previously.

That's far too short a gap. 

The whole point about major sporting events is that the choice of host country should be spread around as much as possible. 

There's now nothing to stop England from bidding for 2031 and getting it. 

That's grand if you think the same countries should host tournaments over and over again.


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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:


 
Well yeah, the real joke being that the parameters of were not clearly laid down to the three bidding nations beforehand. This essentially meant that they could weight it to suit whatever outcome they had a preference for. Call me an aul cynic, but the fact that SA offered the highest bid fee, France the 2nd and Ireland the 3rd - and the recommendation went in that order is probably not entirely coincidental.


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Why didn't they offer Wales and Scotland a few games and remove the poor stadiums swim the bid. Would have sorted two issues out there and then
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Ah stop, this provides a bit of a chuckle in an otherwise utterly depressing week. The cheek of those dastardly focking Scots and Welsh loike! Hord lock goys!!LOL


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A six nations championship will help to ease the pain of the last few days. Can't come quick enough
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That's like taking lemsip for an amputation
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

A six nations championship will help to ease the pain of the last few days. Can't come quick enough


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I'd love to see the look the lads in Mary's or Bective would give Andy if he arrived into the clubhouse looking to join #youarenotwelcome #thisisrugbycountry
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