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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Arguably one of the worst free kicks takers in the game.

Which is quite a feat considering he has been in the top 2 footballers in the world for close to 10 years now.

Really? I would have thought he scores about 5/6 per season
How many does he take though?
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Going back about a year ago he had a conversation rate of around 5%.That was one of the worst percentages for regular free takers in the top 5 leagues.
I think he was only getting around 20% on target.
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Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Going back about a year ago he had a conversation rate of around 5%.That was one of the worst percentages for regular free takers in the top 5 leagues.
I think he was only getting around 20% on target.
That's a myth about Ronaldo.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Going back about a year ago he had a conversation rate of around 5%.That was one of the worst percentages for regular free takers in the top 5 leagues.
I think he was only getting around 20% on target.
That's a myth about Ronaldo.


Those stats are nearly a year old. More up to date stats say that Messi has the better record. *


* I feel a bit queasy contributing to the endless Messi/Ronaldo debate. 
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It seems he has a good record for his clubs but terrible for his country.


Statistics from Opta reveal that Ronaldo has taken 34 free-kicks (18 at the World Cup and 16 at the European Championship) and failed to convert any of them in 28 major tournament games.

Worryingly, only eight have even hit the target. 

Of the remainder, 13 have been blocked and 13 have missed the target.

MOST DIRECT FREE-KICKS TAKEN AT MAJOR TOURNAMENTS (Since 1978, European players)
34 (scored 0) – Cristiano Ronaldo
27 (0) – Gheorghe Hagi
25 (2) – Michel Platini
22 (0) – Ronald Koeman
21 (2) – Zinedine Zidane
18 (0) – Wesley Sneijder
18 (0) – Francesco Totti


MOST EFFICIENT DIRECT FREE-KICK TAKERS AT MAJOR TOURNAMENTS (Since 1978, European players)
20 per cent – Thomas Hassler
15.4 per cent – David Beckham
11.8 per cent – Hristo Stoichkov
9.5 per cent – Zinedine Zidane

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It's like when fans go crazy when their team team wins a corner.
 
Something like only 3% of corners result in goals being scored.
 
Doesnt make sense.
 
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Going back about a year ago he had a conversation rate of around 5%.That was one of the worst percentages for regular free takers in the top 5 leagues.
I think he was only getting around 20% on target.
That's a myth about Ronaldo.


Thats only comparing him to 3 other players .
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Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Going back about a year ago he had a conversation rate of around 5%.That was one of the worst percentages for regular free takers in the top 5 leagues.
I think he was only getting around 20% on target.
That's a myth about Ronaldo.


Thats only comparing him to 3 other players .
Well aware of that, but it shows that his 5%/8% record isn't that bad when compared with other freekick takers. He gets a lot of bad press because of all the fanfare he goes through every time he takes a free kick.
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I'm not sure about those stats. 
An 8% scoring rate from free kicks shouldn't be too bad. That's scoring 1 in every 12 approx. A team like Real should be getting about 2 or 3 direct free kicks per game I would imagine. So, if he was taking all of them, he should be scoring a free every 5 or 6 games. Given he plays about 45-50 games a year allowing for injuries, he should be scoring about 9 free kicks a year which he is never close to doing. 

Obviously, if he is converting 5% then that skews the stats. That's scoring 1 in every 20 attempts. Using the above template which I just made up anecdotally, he should be scoring about 6 or so every year. 
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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

I'm not sure about those stats. 
An 8% scoring rate from free kicks shouldn't be too bad. That's scoring 1 in every 12 approx. A team like Real should be getting about 2 or 3 direct free kicks per game I would imagine. So, if he was taking all of them, he should be scoring a free every 5 or 6 games. Given he plays about 45-50 games a year allowing for injuries, he should be scoring about 9 free kicks a year which he is never close to doing. 

Obviously, if he is converting 5% then that skews the stats. That's scoring 1 in every 20 attempts. Using the above template which I just made up anecdotally, he should be scoring about 6 or so every year. 
 
your views are based on "should be getting", an assumption of how many free-kicks they get within shooting distance, against a statistical value which is based off accurate data. genuinely how often does one team in a match get up to 3 shooting range free kicks?
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Barca had at least that many last night, and all were missed.
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Originally posted by alihau41 alihau41 wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


I'm not sure about those stats. 
An 8% scoring rate from free kicks shouldn't be too bad. That's scoring 1 in every 12 approx. A team like Real should be getting about 2 or 3 direct free kicks per game I would imagine. So, if he was taking all of them, he should be scoring a free every 5 or 6 games. Given he plays about 45-50 games a year allowing for injuries, he should be scoring about 9 free kicks a year which he is never close to doing. 

Obviously, if he is converting 5% then that skews the stats. That's scoring 1 in every 20 attempts. Using the above template which I just made up anecdotally, he should be scoring about 6 or so every year. 

 
your views are based on "should be getting", an assumption of how many free-kicks they get within shooting distance, against a statistical value which is based off accurate data. genuinely how often does one team in a match get up to 3 shooting range free kicks?


Yeah I totally made up the figures but given that Real dominate most matches, is it unrealistic that assume that they get 2- 3 free kicks within striking range per game?
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