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    Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 1:43pm
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Qatar have come out and said all is going ahead and that zwanziger was speaking personally. Not in a fifa role.
Still, hope there's some truth in his statement. Can't see it being moved though tbh
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Corals have prices and for it to be moved is odds on fav ? Hopefully this is an occasion when bookies aren't wrong
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Dont expect this to be moved, as it would be seen as FIFA either been inept in the first place by choosing them or to been the corrupt organisation that it is
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Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denis Irwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight



FIFA are in legal sh*t either way. US and Australia have said they'll take legal action if the tournament is moved from June July as they are the conditions under which the bids were made and as far as they are concerened if Qatar (as seems likely) can't host it in June July then it should be takrn off them
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight



FIFA are in legal sh*t either way. US and Australia have said they'll take legal action if the tournament is moved from June July as they are the conditions under which the bids were made and as far as they are concerened if Qatar (as seems likely) can't host it in June July then it should be takrn off them

Didnt know that. The fact that the Oz WC would have been a winter tournament was a massive blow to their chances. Their bid was weak enough already without taking into account cold weather in June. Had a December WC been allowed, they would have had a decent chance of hosting
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A World Cup in the winter (ala South Africa), which can still have very warm conditions, is less appealing to one that is held in what can be extremely hot conditions.

Bit skewed logic their Schillachi


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Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight


Yeah Qatar have nothing to fear in the courtsLOL


Oh apart from 3 million in bribes and all that stuff they didEmbarrassed
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If Qatar go down they will bring it all down with them.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

A World Cup in the winter (ala South Africa), which can still have very warm conditions, is less appealing to one that is held in what can be extremely hot conditions.

Bit skewed logic their Schillachi



Not at all. I was just making the point that Australia in winter is not nearly as appealing as Australia in Summer. The Oz bid video featured heavily on the sunshine culture (Bondi Beach etc) when the reality is its quite cold in Australia in June. 


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June averages (high / low):

Sydney 17 / 10
Brisbane 22 / 12
Melbourne 14 / 7
Perth 19 / 9
Gold Coast 22 / 13

It is perfect weather for football. There is no difficulty with day time games or with night time games.
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Interesting article which outlines how taking the tournament off Qatar is unlikely

http://fortune.com/2014/09/23/think-qatars-losing-the-2022-world-cup-think-again/


Talk of Qatar losing the tournament makes complete sense, but in the crazy world of FIFA it probably will never happen.

The Twittersphere was alight Monday with talk of Qatar losing the right to host the 2022 World Cupdue to the oppressive heat in the Persian Gulf nation.

But before the United States begins a campaign to retake the tournament it narrowly lost to Qatar, there are few things to consider.

1. The person saying the tournament will be taken from Qatar is FIFA executive committee (Exco) member Theo Zwanziger. He has long been a critic of Qatar hosting the tournament and, more importantly, is a lone voice among 24 executive committee members. FIFA has already said he speaks for himself and his comments are his own opinion. It still would take the entire committee and a messy and untested process to strip Qatar of the bid. There would also be plenty of lawsuits, including from the European and American companies that stand to make billions by building entire cities, stadiums and transport systems in Qatar.

2. No one can use the heat card at this stage of the game. Qatar faced intense scrutiny in the run-up to the bid over the fact temperatures reach 110 degrees at the time the tournament will be played. FIFA even raised a red flag over the heat and that should have killed the bid. In its technical report ahead of the tournament, Qatar was the only country rated “high risk” of all the bidders for 2018 and 2022 based on a current assessment of stadiums, transportation and accommodation. Among the concerns were that Qatar’s desert heat posed a risk to players and officials. It didn’t sway the executive committee, which came away convinced that Qatar has the money and technology to keep stadiums and fan zones cool.

3. If the technology fix fails, move the tournament. Like the heat, there has been talk for several years of moving the tournament to winter when temperatures in Qatar are much cooler. FIFA President Sepp Blatter has already said the tournament cannot be played in the summer, joining the likes of Franz Beckenbauer and UEFA president Michel Platini who want it moved. Of course, a move like this will upset European leagues ,which would have to totally revamp their schedules. But FIFA said earlier this year that it was going through a consultation process.

4. Rather than the heat, it would seem corruption would force a rebid of the tournament. But again, that seems to be losing steam. Qatar has long been dogged by allegations that it bought off voters — who ignored the heat — and several newspapers stories in England have said they have evidence to support the charges. That prompted FIFA to hire special investigator Michael Garcia to look into the bidding process of the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. The 350-page report, according to The Sunday Times, has been filed with FIFA, but the organization’s rules prohibit it from publicly naming names or releasing the 200,000 pages of evidence behind it. That tells me that maybe a few FIFA executives will get a slap on the hand, but Qatar will escape punishment.

5. Following the vote for Russia (in 2018) and Qatar, Blatter said soccer was heading to new lands. He meant that in a good way, since he couldn’t have envisioned an invasion of Ukraine, or the streets of Doha in the summer. And much like his support for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, these two tournaments are part of Blatter’s controversial legacy. He won’t give them up easily and will fight for them until he retires — something that appears to be several years away. The 78-year-old Blatter announced plans earlier this year to run for a fifth term as president that would likely see him in charge of FIFA through 2019 meaning it would be too late to rebid either tournament once he’s gone. He also has thrown in a sweetener to the U.S. in case they raise any concerns about Qatar, suggesting the U.S. could play host in 2026.



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Two hours ahead of here at summer time. Not a ridiculous idea in the circumstances, although of course the circumstances themselves are ridiculous.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Two hours ahead of here at summer time. Not a ridiculous idea in the circumstances, although of course the circumstances themselves are ridiculous.


A ridiculous tournament calls for ridiculous measures.  Some talk that camels will referee the games due to their stamina in the heat.
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They get the hump very easily. Lizards may be better although it may be a conflict of interest as they are already running the tournament.
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