atmosphere
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Topic: atmosphere
Posted By: tirchonaill
Subject: atmosphere
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2007 at 3:05pm
| would be great to have an intimidating atmosphere at croker like whats at that liverpool game tonight.. i know it will never happen but them turkisk nutters have been going non-stop from the first whistle..its the loudest i have heard on tv |
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2007 at 4:34pm
| They were absolute nutters alright, great atmosphere |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2007 at 5:18pm
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We'll have to wait for the new Lansdowne.........Croker will never be a soccer stadium. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: L.Y.A.
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2007 at 5:33pm
| It would be great if the young fellahs in the corner got a Turkish wave going instead of the Mexican one. You just stand there and shake your arms up and down..but it looked great when the Besiktas crowd were doing it |
Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 3:19am
| Yeah definetely and remember these people are not even drinking and the stadium does be packed hours before kick off.Lansdown is gonna be seriously quite for a long time.It happens at all new stadiums.I think we should set up and ultra group.In the league the majority of clubs have ultra groups and it improves atmosphere and brings a lot of colour to the grounds. |
Posted By: engpad
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 7:27am
| Yea lets make teams scared of coming to ireland, lets see teams fearing getting drawn against us! |
Posted By: TheManInTheHat
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 8:55am
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Never going to happen. For the Swiss game under Kerr where we drew 0-0, the north and south terrace tried to get a bit of atmosphere going at the start, whistling every time one of the clockmakers got the ball, singing stand up for the B.I.G. etc. I was in the upper east stand, and no-one was bothered. Sat for the whole game, never sang and shouted "sit down, sit down" anytime anyone got up to try generate a bit of noise. Then most of the c**ts applauded the swiss off the pitch. Too many people going to games are more concerened with the event than the team, and want to be portrayed as sporting and gracious etc.
Bollocks to that. We need to be more hostile, loud and intimidating - not to the point of violence or disrespecting anthems or any of that crap, just really getting behing the players, jeering and whistling anythime the opposition have the ball, and really scaring the sh*te out of the ref so we get a few decisions going our way.
But as long as people getting tickets go just to be able to say "I was at Lansdowne last night for the match" at work the next day, then we can forget it. ------------- And your travelling army of synthetic supporters Would be taken away from you and thrown in the bin |
Posted By: stiofain
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 9:47am
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Yeah i was on about this the other day. It would be great if we could create an intimadating atmosphere in Dublin in the same way the Russians did against England last week. ------------- "you can keep your Costa Brava, im telling ya mate id rather have a day down Margate with all me family" |
Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 10:03am
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Said this years ago.
Not only players but supporters should be fearful of coming to Dublin.Nott that they will be beat up or anything like that but fearful of the reception that they get.Too many times are away fans treated like our own.
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Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 10:04am
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Completely agree with you on this but don't know whether we would be taken seriously with the 'sit down' brigade!  ------------- 
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 10:09am
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That pic says it all..the way we shud be. No more of this dancing leprachaun,dressing up as priests etc at games..
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Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2007 at 5:28am
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http://nl.netlog.com/go/videos/videoid=316867 - http://nl.netlog.com/go/videos/videoid=316867
we should be aspiring to that.Its easy to do
or
http://nl.netlog.com/go/videos/videoid=106758 - http://nl.netlog.com/go/videos/videoid=106758
People go to matches as individuals which is fine but when your at a match you should have no personality.Whoever is leading the support should be the personality and everybody else his tools.He is the brain and we speak for him.Its the Ultra mentaltity and it works.
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Posted By: billybunter
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2007 at 7:13pm
| lads - bit of perspective here. Its one thing to have 18- 20 thousand males, most of whom average an age between 18 - 45 at a club match in turkey. Thes nutters have been at it for their clubs for years (long before turkey were a force in europe). At ireland games, you have women (No disrepect intended) kids, families etc. You have raffle winners, corporate types, after work types that could give 2 shiites. Bottom line is you have pockets of hardcore fans spread out sporadically around the ground - as there has been no focus on who or how people have access to tickets. (outside of the bloce booking scheme). no ringleaders or ringmasters!) as gouldinho points out. It needs to be a co-ordinated effort with mega - phones, couple of headbangers on walkie talkies co-ordinating mayhem. Even the turks dont create that same atmosphere for their international team, because the message gets diluted with kids, women, different vclub supporters etc. Look at argentina, when Boca Jnrs play river plate - complete and utter chaos. But when the national team play, you would'nt be to scared facing them at home - there is passion, but not the pure mob mentality thats bred into club fans. I'm all for creating dedicated singing sections, but in order to ensure an intimidating atmospher,e you need to ensure the absolute hardcore fans (i.e the ones that travel to away games) are secured tickets behind the goals. Let the families (and girls) have the stand tickets. cut out this boll*x where you cant hang flags in croker (or wherever) at least behind the goals. the opposition spend 80% of the time facing one goal or the other, so if you can annoy run amok at either end, then all the better. Always, always stick the away support (If any) in one lower tier corner of a stand - so as to minimize their visibility and effectiveness in supporting their team. Do what every other club and nation does, and fook the "friendy irish welcome" - stick them behind pillars, poles, and whatever else will dampen their spirit. break them up into 2 sections if you have to. look at how we catered to the slovakians and welsh in croker. gave them the hill (first act of treason) and despite the ban on irish lads being allowed hang their flags, there appeared to be a different set of rules for the opposition. 'Cead Mile failte" to a fault if you ask me. |
Posted By: Percy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2007 at 8:28pm
At this hour of the night I dont think i could even try to look at that post billy, jaysus... will have a look in the mornin!! ------------- MERRY CHRISTMAS  @IrishPercy |
Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 5:07am
| Yeah totally agree Billy.Away fans have it way to easy.I think thing like the fan fest are brilliant and we should welcome everybody but when its match time we should treat them like sh1te.Treat them like cattle.And make them fear making the wrong move.It starts with the Garda.I think we have to start an ultra group.We have numbers.Im sure we can get funding.We have plenty of LOI people who know what its about.All we need is the support of the FAI. |
Posted By: Honey Monster
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 6:34am
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I totally agree that we should defo have some sort of supporters group but would the fai be willing to support any sort of ultra group??
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Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 6:48am
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when I was at games in South America a huge amount of the fans had jerseys with number 12 on their back. the clubs never used number 12 as that was the fans number (12th man on team). All these guys were the hardcore who were behind the goals giving it socks during the match. Amazing atmosphere!
Think YBIG jerseys with number 12 on the back would be quality. -------------
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Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 6:54am
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We wouldnt be able to call it an ultra group because the fai wouldnt understand it but more of a supporters group.When i say support from the fai what im saying is in terms of where seating is arranged the group can be together preferably behind the goal. |
Posted By: Honey Monster
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 7:06am
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Those ybig jerseys are a great shout count. Am i right in getting the impression that the fai arent interested in any sort of singing section?? i was just thinkin that such an idea may get extra attention given the fact that new stadiums, ie lansdowne of course, always have a brutal atmosphere at the start as fans are new to the arena and may be mixed in with prawn sandwich non singing event junky supporters... ------------- 753 |
Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 7:17am
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same issue with having like minded supporters beside each other in the stadium. they wouldnt be happy with this and wouldnt go ahead with it either, as said before, could you imagine what would have happened if we were all together for Cyprus game "Stan out, Delaney out" etc, the fai wouldnt have been happy
As for the jerseys, yeah I think its a go-er. I'll post another thread to see what deisgn we should aim for. -------------
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Posted By: Cuddly
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 7:22am
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Good call lads. We do too much singing in the pub's beforehand when we are together, then disperse, when we head off to various area's of the ground. When in, you could sing your heart out, it makes no difference as the indifference from the majority of the fans see's to that.
The number 12 of jerseys sounds a great idea.
Maybe not possible at home games at present, but if 12's gathered (inside stadia) together we could see where this might lead ? ------------- Hair blows in the wind. After years there is still wind. Sadly no more hair. |
Posted By: The_Yank
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 9:14am
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Agreed... great call... it would be great to see all the lads in dedicated sections. The jerseys are a great idea! I even think that the typical home crowd support might enjoy a singing section as then they wouldn't have people standing in front of them but off to the side and if for some reason they ended up there, then they would know what they would be getting themselves into.
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