Right.

So I saw a lad I know bringing up excess deaths in parts of the world saying that the vaccine is killing us off. 

Another one he has is chemtrails.  Wasn't too sure exactly why linear fluffy clouds out of the back of an aeroplane would bother someone so much.  Googled it to see exactly what is his beef is with it.  Apparently they are spraying chemicals to alter the weather and or to control the population with some sort of experimental chemicals in which they are cropdusting over the population.

He has more too.  9/11 inside job, moon landings etc...

what is up with some people?  

These lads lose credibility because they jump from conspiracy to conspiracy. Take the anti-vax brigade. It’d be fine if they truly believed in it, but after a while they jump from cause to cause or whatever is the next news item in the media; Covid, vaccines, trans people, immigration, etc. 

It’s fine being mad in to JFK or whatever but a lot of these lads go with whatever is the next popular idea.

It’s a mentality. You’ll rarely find somebody who truly believes a popular conspiracy theory who doesn’t believe in most/all of them.

The conspiracy theory is the vaccine is a biological weapon to depopulate the planet. 

The facts are the side affects were severely underplayed. It's not just conspiracy theorists who question their safety.

It's all Bill Gates fault. 

Bill, whose own wife divorced him over his close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

By the World Health Organisation's own admission, Bill effectively calls the shots as he is the highest bidder. 

The WHO treaty will give him unthinkable control over world health. 

Like, I can see why he is painted as a bit of a villain. 

That and the fact that when you take a vaccine he can then tell where you are at any stage. I saw this online so it must be true.

Why are you conflating bat sh*t conspiracy with fact?

Am not - Don't see any facts there above. Those are just opinions. 

How many articles would you like to prove my points?

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/does-bill-gates-have-too-much-influence-in-the-who-/46570526" rel="nofollow - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/does-bill-gates-have-too-much-influence-in-the-who-/46570526

You left out friends with the world's biggest paedo part. 

But sure, if you are comfortable with anybody - Jeffrey's pal or not - having so much say in global health, you are entitled to your opinion. 

Why is "having a lot of influence" in quote marks?

No - I'd say there is a fair chance that he is on the list that will be released soon.

But barring one NY York Times report which states this was part of the reason his ex-wife met with lawyers originally I don't see anything anywhere that categorically says that this was the sole reason for his divorce. 

So you are haply enough that the Epstein friendship is fact as is his control over WHO?

We are now down Melinda. In her own words....

https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1742493014830862669?t=SqSI_nZYgh_8GZiZUNRMwA&s=19" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1742493014830862669?t=SqSI_nZYgh_8GZiZUNRMwA&s=19

There is very big "but" in this chat.

And remember, Gates kept meeting Epstein after allegations came out.

Flat earth - now there's a conspiracy I can get behind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHbwT_R9t0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHbwT_R9t0

Now we're talking 

Yes. But if you highlight this, who are a conspiracy theorist. You are right to highlight it's unproven, but there seems to be a correlation

 

No, you're a conspiracy theorist for making the correlation with vaccine uptake. It could just as well to be do with the lasting effects of covid, which have been proven to be more damaging to cardiovascular function than any vaccine.

 

The thing is, there’s plenty of stuff from the 70’s/80’s that probably would have been viewed as such at the time that turned out to be true (Watergate, MK Ultra, Gulf of Tonkin, etc). Some of the modern day conspiracies may well turn out to be true but I think that most conspiracies which turn out to be true are less complex and global domination oriented than the theorists believe.

Anyway, Diana was definitely offed by Windsors.

Good post. I think the likes of digital ID, currency, carbon credits may well happen (and soon)  but it won't be the dystopian nightmare some believe.

Which ones? Can you link a good study on this? Had a quick look around but couldn't really find much

Melinda in her own words - "there wasn't one thing or one incident that caused this.

Your original post was that she divorced him because of it which would appear to be a misrepresentation of facts. If you are trying to prove something then the likes of this discredits any argument. 

You are missing a very big word from quote above....BUT.

If that's not enough for you....suit yourself.

You claimed I posted a serious of opinions and not facts and this is the best you can do when I post the sources?

Hungary and Romania the lowest in terms of vaccination and lowest excess deaths. 

But as I have said, take excess death data with a pinch of salt so wouldn't hang my hat on it. 

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irelands-excess-mortality-rate-fourth-highest-in-eu-1438817.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irelands-excess-mortality-rate-fourth-highest-in-eu-1438817.html

You are right that I didn't quote the remainder of that sentence but I can confirm she doesn't use "but" anywhere in there. You can watch it back yourself.

Let's move on to the WHO admitting themselves that Bill Gates has effective control over them - Who said that and when? The opinion piece from Swiss Info doesn't cover that so I'm assuming it was somebody else on behalf of the WHO who said this. 

WHAT?

she literally says it after three seconds. 

“It was many things. But I did not like that he’d had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein,” she  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/melinda-french-gates-opens-divorce-journey-of-healing/" rel="nofollow - told  CBS Mornings’ Gayle King. “I made that clear to him.

WHO officials have openly admitted larger donors make decisions. I'll try source quote. 

And there is this 

“It was many things. But I did not like that he’d had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein,” she  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/melinda-french-gates-opens-divorce-journey-of-healing/" rel="nofollow - told  CBS Mornings’ Gayle King. “I made that clear to him.

If you've not watched the whole clip that you shared then I'll bow out here as this isn't an argument I can win. 

“WHO therefore can't set the global health agenda and has had to do the bidding of rich donors, not only rich nations in Europe and North America, but also rich philanthropies such as the Gates Foundation”.

Gates controls 88 per cent of the remaining three quarters. 

You're swimming against the tide here. His control over world health is unquestionable amd when treaty is passed in May, even more so.

I'm batting for nothing other than separating fact from opinion. 

Bill Gates is an irrelevance to me. 

Really? I'll leave others to offer opinions on that. 

You didn't even hear the world "But" in the Melinda Gates interview so I'll just leave it at that. 

But if you want to point out which point you think is not true, I'll happily go on

That's just a conspiracy theory

McG is right. Thread will be ruined so.my last offering. 

You can't win argument because you haven't watched the full clip.

She says it wasn't one thing it was many things that led to divorce. 

When asked about Epstein a few mjns later, she says "it wasn't one thing, it was many things BUT I didn't not like friendship with Epstein."

She uses that line twice and makes it abundantly clear this had a major role in divorce.

Full clip here

https://youtu.be/CTy7P9iEMbg?si=vKSiOwGEkJcGOrbi

Perfect, thanks for proving my point.

What you said originally - She divorced him because of his relationship with Epstein.

What you've now confirmed that the clip says - She divorced him due to a number of factors, one of which was his relationship with Epstein. 

Down a big black hole!

Jesus 

Someone revive the Thick Thread 

Third secret of Fatima?

Fairy rings?

The Mayo Curse?

"Bill, whose own wife divorced him over his close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?"

Ewan MacKenna's twitter feed will have loads more Irish ones for you!

You Bill in Gates. 

I rest my case 

Considering who Bill is friends with I wouldn't be surprised if he's funding You "Boys" in Green believing it to be something else.

http://www.rte.ie/radio/doconone/1413077-fear-and-mistrust" rel="nofollow - http://www.rte.ie/radio/doconone/1413077-fear-and-mistrust

That's a cracking podcast on conspiracy theories by RTE one documentaries. 

The Parnell stabbing was a 'psyop' and didn't happen. It was all an act to provoke racist tensions in a grand plan that will lead to a police state.

Gemma and her crew are flying this kite.  

far cry from that dickhead on twitter saying the Gardaí were forcing the family of the wee girl to keep quiet that she was effectively dead to avoid a big spillover of tensions

these dickheads will spout anything and no point engaging because they just ignore anything that doesn't suit

He still has that tweet up. Idiot sprang out of nowhere claiming to be a councillor in Ballymun

Yeah I believe it is 100% because of the vaccine. I just wanted to point out it that everything else hasn't been ruled out.

They tried blaming covid but places that had high vaccine uptake and basically no covid cases, like Western Australia had excess deaths. I am sure Western Australia has had its fair sure of covid since but not when excess deaths were happening. This happened after the vaccine.

It happened in places with high vaccine uptake and no covid cases. There was a study on Western Australia.

Depends what years you're talking about here but there was a period in 2022 where WA had one of the highest infection rates in the world. Apparently there's been over 1.3m COVID cases in WA, roughly half the population. Although I suppose you've got to factor in some people who would have tested positive multiple times.

What's the tinfoil hat reason for them wanting high inflation? 

the fact that tweet is still up shows you how far Twitter has fallen. He spouted that nonsense based on a few screenshots from whatsapp and admitted to that source in the video. Then he made a follow up video with another far right sausage who confirmed he'd seen the same screenshots so they had come to the conclusion it must be true. Zero shame

Ben Gilroy. An absolute sewer of misinformation 

Started at Covid and compounded by war, seems to be the general narrative

If you go down the rabbit hole of almost every conspiracy theory you eventually find some variation of "The Jews are up to no good" so probably that (for finance stuff they usually replace Jews with Rothschilds to be more subtle about it)

Step 2. ???

Step 3. Profit!

Inflation was expected in 2022, but what happened was greed also took over which has led to artificial inflation and record profit in numerous industries, which is still going on. 

Been a total mess for governments has covid so not sure how the conspiracy narrative fits in.

IMO, some 'conspiracy theories' have plenty of weight while others are bat sh*t crazy. 

If you think about it, any flat earther actually believes they have superior knowledge to some of the smartest people that ever lived. Of course, if you disbelieve something as basic and proven and the earth being round there is no limit to what you can theorise about. And a natural outcome is that the flat earther believes nothing is true. They are known to be amongst the most arrogant and self important in the world of conspiracy theorists.

Indeed.  They will never believe any answer as they believe the person telling them the answer is somehow involved in the conspiracy.

I saw some argument online where a flat earther was arguing that if the moons gravity was responsible for pulling the oceans tides then why was it not having an effect on pulling satellites to the moon.  A fair question.  This physics expert gives him the full answer in detail but he doesn't believe it whatsoever and continues to hound the guy about it.

The problem is the answer to these questions is very complicated and you need to be well up in physics to even have any understanding of it.  People want a short snappy answer to a very complicated issue.

The flat earther is also known to be quite narcissistic. It’s all couched in what they see, and they can perceive, and their experience. Oddly, while they don’t like and try to discredit expertise, the seem to get very excited when claiming to convert people from educated people/career people/professionals. That sort of thing.

Perfect example of the delusion and arrogance of flat earthers 

Flat earthers, chemtrails, New World Order, Cashless Society fears. They are basically all the same people believing in these things and ignoring the debunks 

I used look upon flat earthers as pointless cranks, but there is more to it, and as a result they bring their own danger. Not least that they have no compunction arguing points laden with inaccuracies and confirmation bias, and in the face of field experts. It solipsism and narcissism, and it will be leveraged by dangerous people for their own ends.

I ended up watching all of that.

All these consipracy theories.  What I ask is what would the point be in ''the establishment'' lying about the shape of the Earth?  What would be the benefit to them and why?

Same with Covid.  I asked this lad I know who said the whole thing wa a hoax why would they create this hoax.  His answer was ''control''.   Ok.  Control of what? 

That part is easy, if they can lie about something as ‘simple’ and visible as the shape of the earth, then what else can “the establishment” by lying about? For some, it is the filler in their lives, whereby they are trying to plug the gap usually filled by career success or family life. Others, for reasons of arrogance and self importance, as those they have cracked a code that experts and successful people can’t (and won’t lest that impact them.). Then there are others who will peddle it for monetary gain. None of the tiny number of people I know who espouse conspiracy theory are in any way adjusted in terms of career or family life, but are too arrogant not to be happy with their lot.

"They spend an hour on the Internet and think they know a lot about physics" 

At least that’s something he’s correct about. 

Covid vaccines causing myocardtis and children to die.  Big Pharma is killing YOUR kids. 

Discuss

Covid being a hoax should not be given air time.  It's obviously a real disease. What should is the origins of Covid. 

Like, a bat from Laos ending up on the doorstep of a lab in Wuhan that enhances coronaviruses..

Said lab had history of leaks and security issues. Funding has been pulled from lab. 

Covid causes myocarditis far more than vaccines, and the covid vaccines don't really cause myocarditis any more than any other vaccines including flu jab

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736" rel="nofollow - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736 (22)00842-X/fulltext

That may be so.

I'm saying it's a known risk with the vaccine, particularly in young males.

Thanks for sharing. A good watch. Almost to my point that I made before watching it, ‘Shelly’s’ belief in the theory strengthened after her husband unfortunately passed away. After that the rest is just the usual ‘I can’t/can see, so therefore I’m right.’ You have to admire the scientists who maintain a level of composure when arguing their field of expertise with people who are convinced of something through superficial knowledge, and unchecked data.

You're stating facts... this is a conspiracy theory thread...

http://youtu.be/cD_tB6RluJ0?si=5k1-cWHUi4ghftQN" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/cD_tB6RluJ0?si=5k1-cWHUi4ghftQN

Whatever about the vast majority of people who have no clue, including myself.

What I find interesting is the group -

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

In which over 3000 architects and engineers have supposedly signed a document that states the building was a controlled demolition.

Now if all these experts are willing to put their reputations on the line then perhaps there is more to the story. 

3k out of how many? You’ll find that it is a negligible number in comparison to the overall number. Every profession has its cranks.

Decent watch - adds a little more to the cover up theory

Gonna have a look at this tonight

This is a good one too that covers the movements inside the book depository on the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7euN1HTuU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7euN1HTuU

Didn't the two hijackers stay with an FBI informant for months before 9/11?