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Topic: To be Irish in blightyPosted By: Double Maxim
Subject: To be Irish in blighty
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2023 at 4:56pm
Should be part of history curriculum thought in secondary schools in my opinion,, great idea,, generation kept Ireland a float sending money back,, and where would we have gone on holidays before ryanair existed :), had we not had relatives across on the ferry
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Posted By: SportingRizlaCF
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 8:12pm
Did my time on the sites in london and lived in some kips like harlesdon and kensal but the irish community was always great few pints on a sunday in the bell when we were skint
Posted By: Mulvanystrasse
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2023 at 12:01am
SportingRizlaCF wrote:
Did my time on the sites in london and lived in some kips like harlesdon and kensal but the irish community was always great few pints on a sunday in the bell when we were skint
Lived on the Church End Estate in Harlesden for a year '84/'85, plenty of Irish there and on the Chalk Hill Estate in Wembley. Worked on a site in South Kensington during that time, a couple of Irish lads were killed on a site on nearby Cromwell Road.
Posted By: Piskin
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 8:52pm
Just imagine if we didn't have the safety valve of the UK for work...Some of our greatest & loyal supporters were english born/irish going back years.
Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2023 at 12:04pm
Should be part of history curriculum thought in secondary schools in my opinion,, great idea,, generation kept Ireland a float sending money back,, and where would we have gone on holidays before ryanair existed :), had we not had relatives across on the ferry
Re curriculum absolutely right but sadly won't happen.
I was talking to a young fella recently about the famine and he didn't believe me and he was staggered after he researched it.
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Posted By: SunlunBhoy
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2023 at 1:36pm
The Irish built the highways, England wouldn't have a road system if it wasn't for the Irish.
Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 7:25am
SunlunBhoy wrote:
The Irish built the highways, England wouldn't have a road system if it wasn't for the Irish.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
McAlpine's Fusiliers is an Irish ballad set to a traditional air, popularised in the early 1960s by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Behan" rel="nofollow - Dominic Behan . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow - [2]
The song relates to the migration of Irish labourers from Ireland to Britain during the 20th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3] The ballad's title refers to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Robert_McAlpine" rel="nofollow - eponymous construction company of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Robert_McAlpine,_1st_Baronet" rel="nofollow - Sir Robert McAlpine , a major employer of Irish workmen at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-cowley-4" rel="nofollow - [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Laing_%28businessman%29" rel="nofollow - John Laing and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimpey" rel="nofollow - Wimpey (also referred to in the opening monologue; an integral part of the ballad although not included in some cover versions of the song) were other major construction companies employing Irish ' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy" rel="nofollow - navvies ' (a British term referring to building labourers and originally coined for the labourers who built the British canals or 'navigations'). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-cowley-4" rel="nofollow - [4]
The colloquial and local terms in the song's monologue and lyrics include references to a 'spike' (a hostel or 'reception centre' sometimes used by Irish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy" rel="nofollow - navvies who could not find or afford lodgings) and to ' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formwork" rel="nofollow - shuttering ' (a rapidly constructed wooden casing made to hold concrete while it sets). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holyhead" rel="nofollow - Holyhead , also referred to in the monologue, is a port on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglesey" rel="nofollow - Anglesey (Ynys Môn) in Wales where the main ferry service across the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea" rel="nofollow - Irish Sea from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BAn_Laoghaire" rel="nofollow - Dún Laoghaire used to dock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricklewood" rel="nofollow - Cricklewood is a district of North West London which had a relatively large Irish population. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Grain" rel="nofollow - Isle of Grain is an area in Kent where the River Medway joins the Thames Estuary east of London which was a large construction site for several years while a large power station was built there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] The song offers a satirical view of the life and work of the Irish labourers of the times and as such proved popular. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow - [5]
Some sources suggest that the words of the song were derived from an earlier poem or poems by Irish labourer Martin Henry, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] with the song's arrangement attributed to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Behan" rel="nofollow - Dominic Behan . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] Along with a number of other songs, Behan provided the song to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dubliners" rel="nofollow - The Dubliners for use in a new set-structure.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow - [6]
The song has also been recorded by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Reilly" rel="nofollow - Paddy Reilly , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clancy_Brothers" rel="nofollow - The Clancy Brothers , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Capitol_Showband" rel="nofollow - The Capitol Showband , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-7" rel="nofollow - [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecker_Dunne" rel="nofollow - Pecker Dunne , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-8" rel="nofollow - [8] the Young Dubliners and others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-9" rel="nofollow - [9]
------------- Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
Posted By: Trigboy 10
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 9:01am
Double Maxim wrote:
SunlunBhoy wrote:
The Irish built the highways, England wouldn't have a road system if it wasn't for the Irish.
McAlpine's Fusiliers is an Irish ballad set to a traditional air, popularised in the early 1960s by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Behan" rel="nofollow - Dominic Behan . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow - [2]
The song relates to the migration of Irish labourers from Ireland to Britain during the 20th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3] The ballad's title refers to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Robert_McAlpine" rel="nofollow - eponymous construction company of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Robert_McAlpine,_1st_Baronet" rel="nofollow - Sir Robert McAlpine , a major employer of Irish workmen at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-cowley-4" rel="nofollow - [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Laing_%28businessman%29" rel="nofollow - John Laing and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimpey" rel="nofollow - Wimpey (also referred to in the opening monologue; an integral part of the ballad although not included in some cover versions of the song) were other major construction companies employing Irish ' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy" rel="nofollow - navvies ' (a British term referring to building labourers and originally coined for the labourers who built the British canals or 'navigations'). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-cowley-4" rel="nofollow - [4]
The colloquial and local terms in the song's monologue and lyrics include references to a 'spike' (a hostel or 'reception centre' sometimes used by Irish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy" rel="nofollow - navvies who could not find or afford lodgings) and to ' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formwork" rel="nofollow - shuttering ' (a rapidly constructed wooden casing made to hold concrete while it sets). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holyhead" rel="nofollow - Holyhead , also referred to in the monologue, is a port on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglesey" rel="nofollow - Anglesey (Ynys Môn) in Wales where the main ferry service across the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea" rel="nofollow - Irish Sea from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BAn_Laoghaire" rel="nofollow - Dún Laoghaire used to dock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricklewood" rel="nofollow - Cricklewood is a district of North West London which had a relatively large Irish population. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Grain" rel="nofollow - Isle of Grain is an area in Kent where the River Medway joins the Thames Estuary east of London which was a large construction site for several years while a large power station was built there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] The song offers a satirical view of the life and work of the Irish labourers of the times and as such proved popular. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow - [5]
Some sources suggest that the words of the song were derived from an earlier poem or poems by Irish labourer Martin Henry, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] with the song's arrangement attributed to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Behan" rel="nofollow - Dominic Behan . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-irelandsown-1" rel="nofollow - [1] Along with a number of other songs, Behan provided the song to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dubliners" rel="nofollow - The Dubliners for use in a new set-structure.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow - [6]
The song has also been recorded by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Reilly" rel="nofollow - Paddy Reilly , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clancy_Brothers" rel="nofollow - The Clancy Brothers , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Capitol_Showband" rel="nofollow - The Capitol Showband , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-7" rel="nofollow - [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecker_Dunne" rel="nofollow - Pecker Dunne , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-8" rel="nofollow - [8] the Young Dubliners and others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlpines_Fusiliers#cite_note-9" rel="nofollow - [9]
Great song that. There’s another song The Flight of the Earls if you listen to the lyrics it kind of references that song it’s actually a bit derogatory it says we have Brains now as if the people coming earlier didn’t.
Posted By: Neil Armstrong
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 6:13pm
Whats Portsmouth like heading over there for a funeral around the Havant area, fly Southampton
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Posted By: Neil Armstrong
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 6:15pm
Piskin wrote:
Just imagine if we didn't have the safety valve of the UK for work...Some of our greatest & loyal supporters were english born/irish going back years.
and Players dont forget
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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 6:34pm
Neil Armstrong wrote:
Whats Portsmouth like heading over there for a funeral around the Havant area, fly Southampton
Glasgow has come out as the most left-wing city and Bournemouth as the most right-wing Glasgow emerges as the most left-wing place of all. Of more than 1.6m votes for Labour or the...
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 8:23pm
SunlunBhoy wrote:
The Irish built the highways, England wouldn't have a road system if it wasn't for the Irish.
Yeah they had no other cheap labour to call on in their empire/Sphere of influence
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