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Topic: Playoff update thread
Posted By: MayoMark
Subject: Playoff update thread
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 9:08pm
I'll admit I haven't a clue how this works and I'm far too lazy to find out. But some on here are really tuned into it so maybe update this thread when results do or don't go our way  

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Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 9:38pm
We’re ranked 25 (26th in NL table - Germany) in the playoff table. 8 spots (4 for path A and 4 path B) available so need 17 teams above us to qualify directly to guarantee a playoff spot.

Some groups have 3 teams ranked above us. not all 3 can qualify so some spots already take. Eg Spain, Scotland and Norway and England, Italy and Ukraine.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

At this stage id say it’s greater than 70% chance we’ll be playing Slovenia away or Albania at home in a playoff, via path A.


Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

We’re ranked 25 (26th in NL table - Germany) in the playoff table. 8 spots (4 for path A and 4 path B) available so need 17 teams above us to qualify directly to guarantee a playoff spot.

Some groups have 3 teams ranked above us. not all 3 can qualify so some spots already take. Eg Spain, Scotland and Norway and England, Italy and Ukraine.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

At this that’s if say it’s great than 70% chance we’ll be playing Slovenia away or Albania at home in a playoff, via path A.

In an ideal world would we be hoping the 4 teams ranked above us in the NL rankings, fill the path for League A thus leaving us as the highest ranked team in path B? Or have I got that wrong?


Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:27pm
I’ve a headache LOLConfused


Posted By: CantonasCat
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:46pm
If automatic qualification doesn’t work out for us, does finishing 3rd in the group have a positive bearing on our ability to gain a play-off place?  I.e. if all of that NL permutations stuff described above falls into place for us , do we still need to finish as high as possible in Group B (3rd place) ? Obviously, we’d want to anyway ffs.         I know the Wikipedia page says play-offs are only based on NL standings.

Someone in here answered this for me a couple of months ago, but I can’t remember, so apologies for being blind to what is probably a simple answer. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: djhegzy
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by CantonasCat CantonasCat wrote:

If automatic qualification doesn’t work out for us, does finishing 3rd in the group have a positive bearing on our ability to gain a play-off place?  I.e. if all of that NL permutations stuff described above falls into place for us , do we still need to finish as high as possible in Group B (3rd place) ? Obviously, we’d want to anyway ffs.         I know the Wikipedia page says play-offs are only based on NL standings.

Someone in here answered this for me a couple of months ago, but I can’t remember, so apologies for being blind to what is probably a simple answer. Thumbs Up

No could finish last in our group, no bering at all


Posted By: CantonasCat
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Originally posted by CantonasCat CantonasCat wrote:

If automatic qualification doesn’t work out for us, does finishing 3rd in the group have a positive bearing on our ability to gain a play-off place?  I.e. if all of that NL permutations stuff described above falls into place for us , do we still need to finish as high as possible in Group B (3rd place) ? Obviously, we’d want to anyway ffs.         I know the Wikipedia page says play-offs are only based on NL standings.

Someone in here answered this for me a couple of months ago, but I can’t remember, so apologies for being blind to what is probably a simple answer. Thumbs Up

No could finish last in our group, no bering at all

Thanks for the clarity Thumbs UpThumbs Up


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Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 11:15pm
https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf  
here are the overall rankings posted above. We are 26th in the list. There are 8th play off places available so to be the 8th team to sneak a play off we will need 18 of the 25 teams above us to qualify. 

Group A Scotland/Norway 
Group C Ukraine/Italy 
Group H Slovenia/Finland
Group J Iceland/Bosnia 

All possess teams who finished above us and will more then likely see Spain,England,Denmark and Portugal qualify with one of the 4 each above. That means 4 teams above us will be needing a play off straight away. 

That’s left with 3 teams above us not qualifying in the remaining 6 groups. It’s vital for us the following come out of their respective groups. These 3 Groups almost certainly hold the key for us.

Group E Serbia/Hungary 
Group D Croatia/Wales 
Group G Czech/Poland 

Then leaves as they would say in the US elections key/swing states  Group F Austria/Sweden in a shoot-out,Group I Israel/Kosovo/Romania will be competing for the 2nd qualifying spot and our own group. 

We want Austria and Israel qualifying (wouldn’t be optimistic about Israel) and let’s say we ain’t qualifying Holland coming out as opposed to Greece. 

If 5 of the 6 teams mentioned above in Group E,D and G can qualify we will almost certainly get a play off spot even if Austria and Israel fail to qualify. One potential flier is Slovakia might serve it up to Bosnia/Iceland in Group G that would be a complete disaster if they qualified or of course Greece pipping Holland to 2nd place. 




Posted By: Badgersboys9
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 11:21pm
To simplify it, any goals that Ireland score you take the mean average of them goals, mulitply it by pi and take it away from the median value of the total goals score by 3 weakest teams in Asia.

I really don't see what people are not getting here.


Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2023 at 11:54pm
Wales drawing 1-1 against Croatia a positive result for us overall as well I suspect. Croatia will surely qualify and it’s probably down to Wales vs Turkey for the other spot. 

Decent result.


Posted By: CantonasCat
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 12:01am
Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf  
here are the overall rankings posted above. We are 26th in the list. There are 8th play off places available so to be the 8th team to sneak a play off we will need 18 of the 25 teams above us to qualify. 

Group A Scotland/Norway 
Group C Ukraine/Italy 
Group H Slovenia/Finland
Group J Iceland/Bosnia 

All possess teams who finished above us and will more then likely see Spain,England,Denmark and Portugal qualify with one of the 4 each above. That means 4 teams above us will be needing a play off straight away. 

That’s left with 3 teams above us not qualifying in the remaining 6 groups. It’s vital for us the following come out of their respective groups. These 3 Groups almost certainly hold the key for us.

Group E Serbia/Hungary 
Group D Croatia/Wales 
Group G Czech/Poland 

Then leaves as they would say in the US elections key/swing states  Group F Austria/Sweden in a shoot-out,Group I Israel/Kosovo/Romania will be competing for the 2nd qualifying spot and our own group. 

We want Austria and Israel qualifying (wouldn’t be optimistic about Israel) and let’s say we ain’t qualifying Holland coming out as opposed to Greece. 

If 5 of the 6 teams mentioned above in Group E,D and G can qualify we will almost certainly get a play off spot even if Austria and Israel fail to qualify. One potential flier is Slovakia might serve it up to Bosnia/Iceland in Group G that would be a complete disaster if they qualified or of course Greece pipping Holland to 2nd place. 



Great stuff.  That is what I call detail!! 


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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 12:51am
Could see this being a very busy thread over the next year or so 


Posted By: PaulYK
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 5:23am
Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1636ce1f2295-f77616bdffaa-1000/un.pdf.pdf  
here are the overall rankings posted above. We are 26th in the list. There are 8th play off places available so to be the 8th team to sneak a play off we will need 18 of the 25 teams above us to qualify. 

Group A Scotland/Norway 
Group C Ukraine/Italy 
Group H Slovenia/Finland
Group J Iceland/Bosnia 

All possess teams who finished above us and will more then likely see Spain,England,Denmark and Portugal qualify with one of the 4 each above. That means 4 teams above us will be needing a play off straight away. 

That’s left with 3 teams above us not qualifying in the remaining 6 groups. It’s vital for us the following come out of their respective groups. These 3 Groups almost certainly hold the key for us.

Group E Serbia/Hungary 
Group D Croatia/Wales 
Group G Czech/Poland 

Then leaves as they would say in the US elections key/swing states  Group F Austria/Sweden in a shoot-out,Group I Israel/Kosovo/Romania will be competing for the 2nd qualifying spot and our own group. 

We want Austria and Israel qualifying (wouldn’t be optimistic about Israel) and let’s say we ain’t qualifying Holland coming out as opposed to Greece. 

If 5 of the 6 teams mentioned above in Group E,D and G can qualify we will almost certainly get a play off spot even if Austria and Israel fail to qualify. One potential flier is Slovakia might serve it up to Bosnia/Iceland in Group G that would be a complete disaster if they qualified or of course Greece pipping Holland to 2nd place. 


Thanks for setting this out. Really helpful.


Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:01am
The north qualifying would be bad for us so Finland getting a result today would do nicely.


Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:17am
Great thread

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Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:30am
Originally posted by Greener92 Greener92 wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

We’re ranked 25 (26th in NL table - Germany) in the playoff table. 8 spots (4 for path A and 4 path B) available so need 17 teams above us to qualify directly to guarantee a playoff spot.

Some groups have 3 teams ranked above us. not all 3 can qualify so some spots already take. Eg Spain, Scotland and Norway and England, Italy and Ukraine.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

At this that’s if say it’s great than 70% chance we’ll be playing Slovenia away or Albania at home in a playoff, via path A.

In an ideal world would we be hoping the 4 teams ranked above us in the NL rankings, fill the path for League A thus leaving us as the highest ranked team in path B? Or have I got that wrong?
path B playoff spots are filled by the highest ranked NL League B teams that need a playoff spot. The next NL team(s) move across to path A joining the NL league A teams who haven’t qualified.


Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:18pm
A massive boost for us with the North going 1-0 down. Although I have no idea why, I just saw someone say it on another thread  

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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

A massive boost for us with the North going 1-0 down. Although I have no idea why, I just saw someone say it on another thread  


Cos we want Denmark and Slovenia to finished 1st & 2nd in that group.


Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:28pm
Lovely Clap

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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

A massive boost for us with the North going 1-0 down. Although I have no idea why, I just saw someone say it on another thread  


Cos we want Denmark and Slovenia to finished 1st & 2nd in that group.

Wouldn't bank on Slovenia coming 2nd 


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Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:38pm
Finland coming second will also do us 

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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:42pm
Originally posted by TBWRA TBWRA wrote:

Finland coming second will also do us 

Fair chance so with both


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Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:47pm
I think Pinch

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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TBWRA TBWRA wrote:

Finland coming second will also do us 

Fair chance so with both


Yeah either or. Finland ranked 21st and Slovenia 25th behind us in 26th.


Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:57pm
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TBWRA TBWRA wrote:

Finland coming second will also do us 

Fair chance so with both


Yeah either or. Finland ranked 21st and Slovenia 25th behind us in 26th.





Bosnia currently losing 2-0 to Slovakia isn't good for us though.


Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:58pm
Id take that Glen Kamara for our midfield. Very solid and good technically. Always impresses me when I see him play

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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

A massive boost for us with the North going 1-0 down. Although I have no idea why, I just saw someone say it on another thread  


You could say that at any time.  The north losing is always good 😀😀


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Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 9:40pm
Really is going to be touch and go this 

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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 1:30am
https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128
We moved from 54 to 39% after today.


Posted By: wanderer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 6:40am
Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128
We moved from 54 to 39% after today.

Can't really look into our chances with a playoff until the September round of games probably.

Far to many moving pieces, need to wait until the groups start to take shape. 1 result either way throws those percentages off


Posted By: VanBosch
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 7:53am
Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128
We moved from 54 to 39% after today.

Which result went against us?


Posted By: giveittochristie
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 8:34am
Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/We_Global/status/1640113865127088128
We moved from 54 to 39% after today.

Which result went against us?
Slovakia (5th seed) beating Bosnia (2nd seed)


Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 8:57am
When are the playoffs ? Next year ?

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Posted By: J89
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

When are the playoffs ? Next year ?


March 2024


Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 9:38am

If we do not finish in the top 2 in our group.    

The best ranked League D winner will most likely get a league A playoff spot.  Hence only 7 potential spots available.  

There are scenarios where we might get a league B playoff but these are unlikely.
 
We can only afford two lower ranked sides qualifying.

Appreciate there are other scenarios but most likely

We can only afford at most 2 of the following

1)     Turkey to qualify ahead of Wales/Croatia

2)     Sweden to qualify ahead of Belgium/Austria

3)     Romania or Kosovo to qualify ahead of Israel/Switzerland

4)     Albania to qualify ahead of Czech/Poland

5)     Georgia to qualify ahead of Spain/Scotland/Norway

6)     Montenegro or Bulgaria to qualify ahead of Hungary/Serbia

7)     Northern Ireland to qualify ahead of Denmark/Finland/Slovenia

8)   Slovakia to qualify ahead of Portugal/Bosnia/Iceland




Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 9:48am
Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:


If we do not finish in the top 2 in our group.    

The best ranked League D winner will most likely get a league A playoff spot.  Hence only 7 potential spots available.  

There are scenarios where we might get a league B playoff but these are unlikely.
 
We can only afford two lower ranked sides qualifying.

Appreciate there are other scenarios but most likely

We can only afford at most 2 of the following

1)     Turkey to qualify ahead of Wales/Croatia

2)     Sweden to qualify ahead of Belgium/Austria

3)     Romania or Kosovo to qualify ahead of Israel/Switzerland

4)     Albania to qualify ahead of Czech/Poland

5)     Georgia to qualify ahead of Spain/Scotland/Norway

6)     Montenegro or Bulgaria to qualify ahead of Hungary/Serbia

7)     Northern Ireland to qualify ahead of Denmark/Finland/Slovenia

8)   Slovakia to qualify ahead of Portugal/Bosnia/Iceland



Those are the dodgy ones, I think you're looking at least 2 of these happening, and then the other 2 will be close.


Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 10:34pm
Very good night for us here. Austria scraped a late win vs Estonia alright got lucky. 

Austria,Poland,Serbia,Hungary all winning. Only slight negative was Czech Republic needlessly messing up against Moldova drawing. They and Poland are still in a strong initial position in that group. That will happen unfortunately nowadays minnows are definitely better coached/improving. Gap has tightened a bit.

Croatia and Turkey will be huge tomorrow with a view to Croatia winning. 


Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 7:07am
Agree the results last night were good for us but Austria scraping by Estonia doesn’t look good compared to the Sweden result v Azer. Austria host Sweden in June.

All 3 groups tonight will impact that % in the twitter link.

I’m already marking Israel down as a fail so that’s one of the 4 below us (Romania or Kosovo) qualifying directly.


Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 7:42am
Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

When are the playoffs ? Next year ?


March 2024

Ta 


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 7:04pm
Georgia drop points at home to Norway 1-1. Good result for us although Georgia were one of the more unlikely ones in any case.

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 8:28pm
Croatia leading turkey 1-0 after 30 mins, Scotland 1 up on Spain, both good results for us, Croatia in particular.

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 8:37pm
HT now, Croats and Scots still up and Wales now 1 up on Latvia. All good bar Group I although Kosovo are only drawing with Andorra at ht.

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Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

HT now, Croats and Scots still up and Wales now 1 up on Latvia. All good bar Group I although Kosovo are only drawing with Andorra at ht.

Keep up the good work. Doing the lords work Thumbs UpClap


Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:00pm
Not looking good for Israel. They're a bloody dodgy side. You wouldn't be shocked if they came 2nd in the group or came 5th.


Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:05pm
Kosovo 1 up


Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:05pm
Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Not looking good for Israel. They're a bloody dodgy side. You wouldn't be shocked if they came 2nd in the group or came 5th.
 

Not ideal but Israel will play the two minnows where as Romania play Kosovo and Switzerland away in their next two games. Switzerland will hockey everybody in that group.
Israel will likely close that gap in the next round of fixtures. 

Not that I disagree they don’t look good Israel but still lots to play for yet. 


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:10pm
Andorra have equalised, Scots 2 up.

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:34pm
Squeaky bum time, Kosovo still drawing with Andorra, Romania only 2 1 up now on Belarus. Croats, Scots and Wesh 2up, 2 up, 1 up respectively!

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Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:38pm
Kinda pointless this update malarky after 1-2 games in the groups. Best wait till there are 2 games left 

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:39pm
Wales clinging on vs Latvia!

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Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:41pm
Decent night all things considered .

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Kinda pointless this update malarky after 1-2 games in the groups. Best wait till there are 2 games left 

Some of them may be a bit pointless but the Turks losing at home to Croatia is notable particularly given the Welsh got a draw away to the Croats and have just beaten Latvia, thats significant even at this early stage.

Scots beating Spain and Kosovo only drawing with Andorra are significantly good results for us also. 

It's also good craic for some of us!


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Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Kinda pointless this update malarky after 1-2 games in the groups. Best wait till there are 2 games left 

Some of the a bit pointless but the Tursk losing at home to Croatia is notable particulalry given the Welsh got a draw awat to the Croats and have just beaten Latvia, thats significant even at this early stage.

Scots beating Spain and Kosovo only drawing with Andorra are significantly good results for us also. 

It's also good craic for some of us!
It’s riveting. Already looking forward to June 


Posted By: ProudIrish
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Kinda pointless this update malarky after 1-2 games in the groups. Best wait till there are 2 games left 

It’s a bit of craic ffs


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Wales clinging on vs Latvia!

Jesus that Welsh team ranked above us must be quare bad only beating the 133rd ranked side in the World  1-0 at home Smile


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:46pm
Anyway that was a good night for us, I'd say our chances have increased after that!

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Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:48pm
Turkey losing to Croatia key. Wales winning a big positive. 

Romania winning and Israel losing would have been par for the course. Israel will have that gap closed by the next round of games they play the minnows. 

Results for us haven’t gone bad so far in the main. 


Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 9:56pm
Would worry about turkey catching wales , Wales look a shadow of the team we ran in to a few years back .

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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 10:05pm
The playoff positions have been updated on wiki at the end of match each day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

As it stands teams up as far as 25th (Slovenia) are in the playoffs.

All we'd need is the Dutch to finish 2nd and we'd be handed their place as the 26th team in the above standings.

But a hell of a lot of games to go.



Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 10:46pm
Originally posted by TBWRA TBWRA wrote:

Would worry about turkey catching wales , Wales look a shadow of the team we ran in to a few years back .

They just drew 1-1 away to Croatia


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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 10:48pm
They weren't very good value for the 1-1 though


Posted By: rebelbrowser
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 12:02am
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

The playoff positions have been updated on wiki at the end of match each day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

As it stands teams up as far as 25th (Slovenia) are in the playoffs.

All we'd need is the Dutch to finish 2nd and we'd be handed their place as the 26th team in the above standings.

But a hell of a lot of games to go.


Of course us actually coming second ahead of Holland wouldn't be bad either! But I know what you meant....


Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 5:53am
Didn’t realise that when a NL group winner qualifies their playoff spot goes to Estonia :( path A looking like a softer path but you can never rule out Italy from making mess of things.
It really is going to go to the wire.


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 10:16am
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Up to 49% chance of a play off spot again after last night's completion of the GW2 fixtures.


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Posted By: Yoco Santos
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 1:37pm
Based off their current predictions, we would be away to Norway with the winner playing the winner of Iceland v Estonia.


Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by Yoco Santos Yoco Santos wrote:

Based off their current predictions, we would be away to Norway with the winner playing the winner of Iceland v Estonia.
Any idea if the final is home/away/neutral?


Posted By: Yoco Santos
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 2:25pm
Its a draw to decide which semi final winner will host the final.


Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by Yoco Santos Yoco Santos wrote:

Its a draw to decide which semi final winner will host the final.

 
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Posted By: Roberto_Carlow
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 3:00pm
Only a matter of time before a team can lose all their groups games,  lose their play off and still end up at the Euros.


Posted By: Robsham1
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Only a matter of time before a team can lose all their groups games,  lose their play off and still end up at the Euros.

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Posted By: LaserSnake
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 5:36pm
Cheers for this link. It helps massively explain the current situ.


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2023 at 2:03pm
Looking at the next rounds of fixtures in June, these are the absolutely key ones to look out for:

16 Jun Belarus vs Israel - Away win critical to Israel's chances of topping Romania/Kosovo
16 Jun Kosovo vs Romania - Home win or a draw - Dont want Romania winning this one
17 Jun Montenegro vs Hungary - Away win will leave Montenegro with a mountain to climb
17 Jun Iceland vs Slovakia - Home win key to keeping Slovakia behind Iceland/Bosnia
19 Jun Turkey vs Wales - Massive, if Wales get any kind of result here, it will hurt Turkey
19 Jun Switzerland vs Romania - Need Romania beaten here
20 Jun Austria vs Sweden - Another massive one, a home win leaves Sweden in trouble, an away win and Sweden are favourites to qualify ahead of Austria


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2023 at 2:14pm
I posted this in the Group B thread yesterday, but its probably more appropriate here.

As I see it, there are 4 dodgy groups at this point in time and we need two of them to go our way. The key head to heads are as follows. We need 2 of Wales, Austria, Israel and Bosnia/Iceland to win out. Early days, but so far so good, bar Israel's group, although it's worth noting Romania have done nothing more than you'd expect at this point beating Belarus at home and Andorra away. The clashes between the sides listed will have a huge bearing.

GROUP D - Wales vs Turkey - Turkey beat Armenia away 2-1, but then lost at home to Croatia. Wales have taken a point away to Croatia and won at home to Latvia, so good start for Wales

GROUP F - Austria vs Sweden - Austria have taken 6 from 6 with home wins over Azer and Estonia, while Swedes are on 3 from 6 having lost their opener at home to Belgium before winning at home vs Azer.

GROUP I - Israel vs Romania/Kosovo - Romania have won 2 from 2 home to Belarus and away to Andorra. Israel dropped pts at home to Kosovo in a 1-1 draw and were then beaten by the Swiss away from home. Kosovo dropped what could be 2 critical pts at home to Andorra

GROUP J Bosnia or Iceland vs Slovakia - Slovakia had a good home win over Bosnia but dropped 2pts in a home draw with Lux. Bosnia and Iceland are both 3 from 6.


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Posted By: ProudIrish
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2023 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Looking at the next rounds of fixtures in June, these are the absolutely key ones to look out for:

16 Jun Belarus vs Israel - Away win critical to Israel's chances of topping Romania/Kosovo
16 Jun Kosovo vs Romania - Home win or a draw - Dont want Romania winning this one
17 Jun Montenegro vs Hungary - Away win will leave Montenegro with a mountain to climb
17 Jun Iceland vs Slovakia - Home win key to keeping Slovakia behind Iceland/Bosnia
19 Jun Turkey vs Wales - Massive, if Wales get any kind of result here, it will hurt Turkey
19 Jun Switzerland vs Romania - Need Romania beaten here
20 Jun Austria vs Sweden - Another massive one, a home win leaves Sweden in trouble, an away win and Sweden are favourites to qualify ahead of Austria

If I put an accumulator on that I’d be a rich man and pay for my trip to Germany Smile


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2023 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by ProudIrish ProudIrish wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Looking at the next rounds of fixtures in June, these are the absolutely key ones to look out for:

16 Jun Belarus vs Israel - Away win critical to Israel's chances of topping Romania/Kosovo
16 Jun Kosovo vs Romania - Home win or a draw - Dont want Romania winning this one
17 Jun Montenegro vs Hungary - Away win will leave Montenegro with a mountain to climb
17 Jun Iceland vs Slovakia - Home win key to keeping Slovakia behind Iceland/Bosnia
19 Jun Turkey vs Wales - Massive, if Wales get any kind of result here, it will hurt Turkey
19 Jun Switzerland vs Romania - Need Romania beaten here
20 Jun Austria vs Sweden - Another massive one, a home win leaves Sweden in trouble, an away win and Sweden are favourites to qualify ahead of Austria

If I put an accumulator on that I’d be a rich man and pay for my trip to Germany Smile

Well if it comes up, we'll be very strong favourites for a play off place! Smile


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Posted By: Roberto_Carlow
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 1:22pm
What's the story with who we can draw if we end up in the play offs? Based on seedings? We would likely be away in the semi and final etc?


Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

What's the story with who we can draw if we end up in the play offs? Based on seedings? We would likely be away in the semi and final etc?

Almost certainly an away semi fina if we make the playoffs.  Far too many permutations to predict any potential opponents now.  


Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 5:10pm
Don't we make the playoffs as long as no more than 2 out of Turkey, Romania, Sweden & Slovakia qualify directly this year? 

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2023 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

What's the story with who we can draw if we end up in the play offs? Based on seedings? We would likely be away in the semi and final etc?

Almost certainly an away semi fina if we make the playoffs.  Far too many permutations to predict any potential opponents now.  

Aye, an away semi-final is almost a definite if we make the play offs. However, as I understand it, the final is drawn after the semis are complete, so we have a 50/50 chance of a home final.


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2023 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Don't we make the playoffs as long as no more than 2 out of Turkey, Romania, Sweden & Slovakia qualify directly this year? 

We make the play offs as long as no more than 2 teams ranked below us qualify automatically, not just the 4 you have listed although they are the four we would be most worried about. There's always a chance that there's a North Macedonia style springer out there.


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Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2023 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

What's the story with who we can draw if we end up in the play offs? Based on seedings? We would likely be away in the semi and final etc?

Almost certainly an away semi fina if we make the playoffs.  Far too many permutations to predict any potential opponents now.  

Aye, an away semi-final is almost a definite if we make the play offs. However, as I understand it, the final is drawn after the semis are complete, so we have a 50/50 chance of a home final.

The final is drawn before the semis so we would know if we win the semi final whether we'd have home advantage in a potential final.  


Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2023 at 9:28pm
Looking forward to the minute by minute updates on our playoff destiny over the coming week LOL


Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2023 at 4:06pm
Best thread ever Clap

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2023 at 10:55am
Looking ahead to Friday and the other fixtures we should be keeping any eye out for from a play off perspective, the following stand out

Group D
Latvia vs Turkey - A home win for Latvia or even a draw would be a great result for our play off hopes
Wales vs Armenia - Need a Wales win here
Group I
Belarus vs Israel - Really need an Israeli win here
Kosovo vs Romania - Definitely dont want a Romania win.


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2023 at 8:48pm
Just had a look at the ht scores, looking very bad, Wales and Israel losing, Turkey winning. Very bad!

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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2023 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Just had a look at the ht scores, looking very bad, Wales and Israel losing, Turkey winning. Very bad!

Thankfully Israel came back and won while Romania only drew with Kosovo so thats good but Wales losing at home to Armenia is very bad with Turkey winning.


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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2023 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Just had a look at the ht scores, looking very bad, Wales and Israel losing, Turkey winning. Very bad!

Thankfully Israel came back and won while Romania only drew with Kosovo so thats good but Wales losing at home to Armenia is very bad with Turkey winning.

We need Netherlands to take an automatic spot in our group now. Greece taking second would be bad.

Playoffs are still in the balance. We're right on the cusp of taking a playoff spot, on the outside looking in as it stands but if Netherlands take second in our group that would be a big help. 

Still a long way to go and we'll have a clearer idea after this window. Kazakhstan occupy an automatic spot tonight after beating San Marino, (bad for us) but I'd be surprised if they still occupy that spot next week let alone in the Autumn. 


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Posted By: Greener92
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 12:11am
A 95th minute winner for turkey to really make the perfect evening Dead


Posted By: J89
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 1:20am
Originally posted by Greener92 Greener92 wrote:


A 95th minute winner for turkey to really make the perfect evening Dead


What makes it worse Latvia scored in the 94th minute to make it 2-2.


Posted By: ccfc1984rebel
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 1:42pm
You’d wonder what the odds of all these other group scenarios going our way are for a playoff, must be a long enough shot


Posted By: ccfc1984rebel
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 4:54pm
Just looked, think it might be less than 50/50, grim reading


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:02pm
As per WeGlobalFootball, our play off chances went from 49% to 41% last night.

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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:05pm
They also have us down to pick up a grand total of seven points in the entire group. Which, presuming six of them are against Gibraltar, sounds...about right actually based on the state of what we saw last night.


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:08pm
Not a heap going on today that will affect our chances too much, but the following would help somewhat
  • An away win or draw for Hungary in Montenegro
  • Unlikely but a result for Austria away to Belgium would be great
  • A home win for Iceland over Slovakia


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

They also have us down to pick up a grand total of seven points in the entire group. Which, presuming six of them are against Gibraltar, sounds...about right actually based on the state of what we saw last night.

Based on what we saw last night, I wouldnt argue with you!


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Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Not a heap going on today that will affect our chances too much, but the following would help somewhat
  • An away win or draw for Hungary in Montenegro
  • Unlikely but a result for Austria away to Belgium would be great
  • A home win for Iceland over Slovakia
 

Iceland beating Slovakia is absolutely crucial. 


Posted By: PaulYK
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Just had a look at the ht scores, looking very bad, Wales and Israel losing, Turkey winning. Very bad!

Thankfully Israel came back and won while Romania only drew with Kosovo so thats good but Wales losing at home to Armenia is very bad with Turkey winning.

We need Netherlands to take an automatic spot in our group now. Greece taking second would be bad.

Playoffs are still in the balance. We're right on the cusp of taking a playoff spot, on the outside looking in as it stands but if Netherlands take second in our group that would be a big help. 

Still a long way to go and we'll have a clearer idea after this window. Kazakhstan occupy an automatic spot tonight after beating San Marino, (bad for us) but I'd be surprised if they still occupy that spot next week let alone in the Autumn. 
It's going to be very interesting to see what we do if we go into that last game against the Netherlands needing to lose so that they finish second and not Greece, in order to give us a playoff spot. On the evidence of yesterday's game, we would lose naturally, but knowing us that's the game we'd pick for a heroic draw or even victory. 


Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Not a heap going on today that will affect our chances too much, but the following would help somewhat
  • An away win or draw for Hungary in Montenegro
  • Unlikely but a result for Austria away to Belgium would be great
  • A home win for Iceland over Slovakia


The Norway v Scotland game on at the moment is very important.

We need a Norway win. 

Norway are above us in the Nations League standings. Spain and Scotland are guaranteed a playoff so if Norway can take an automatic spot in that group then it benefits us as if a playoff becomes available it won’t fall to Norway (who will be qualified) it will fall to the next team in the nations league standings.

Whereas if Spain and Scotland take the automatic spots in that group, the next available playoff will fall to Norway.

It’s basically like lifelines, and we need a few.


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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Not a heap going on today that will affect our chances too much, but the following would help somewhat
  • An away win or draw for Hungary in Montenegro
  • Unlikely but a result for Austria away to Belgium would be great
  • A home win for Iceland over Slovakia


The Norway v Scotland game on at the moment is very important.

We need a Norway win. 

Norway are above us in the Nations League standings. Spain and Scotland are guaranteed a playoff so if Norway can take an automatic spot in that group then it benefits us as if a playoff becomes available it won’t fall to Norway (who will be qualified) it will fall to the next team in the nations league standings.

Whereas if Spain and Scotland take the automatic spots in that group, the next available playoff will fall to Norway.

It’s basically like lifelines, and we need a few.
Actually it is much of a muchness….
That group will use up one of the play off spots anyway, either Norway taking it ahead of us or one of Spain and Scotland landing in the playoffs.
Comes down to football then, which team you’d prefer not to see in the playoffs. 


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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Not a heap going on today that will affect our chances too much, but the following would help somewhat
  • An away win or draw for Hungary in Montenegro
  • Unlikely but a result for Austria away to Belgium would be great
  • A home win for Iceland over Slovakia


The Norway v Scotland game on at the moment is very important.

We need a Norway win. 

Norway are above us in the Nations League standings. Spain and Scotland are guaranteed a playoff so if Norway can take an automatic spot in that group then it benefits us as if a playoff becomes available it won’t fall to Norway (who will be qualified) it will fall to the next team in the nations league standings.

Whereas if Spain and Scotland take the automatic spots in that group, the next available playoff will fall to Norway.

It’s basically like lifelines, and we need a few.

I dont think thats correct, I dont think it matters which 2 out of those 3 qualify from that Group. I absolutely stand to be corrected on that, as I'm not 100% sure, but that was my understanding?


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