What happened to the League Cup
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Topic: What happened to the League Cup
Posted By: savo01
Subject: What happened to the League Cup
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2023 at 9:18am
What has happened to the League/EA Cup and why is it not back yet? Can't find anything about why it hasn't returned yet, ridiculous that it hasn't been reinstated.
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Posted By: brendy_éire
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 12:42pm
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Nothing official, but the story is that there's no appetite from the clubs. Disappointing, as I really enjoyed it. Perhaps if it was brought back as a pre-season cup like before, with regionalised groups to start it off, that could be more inviting to the clubs.
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Posted By: trevwaterford
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 2:38pm
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Yes, I presume if the clubs wanted it back it would be back by now. Prize money was apparently quite low for it as well. With the increase in fans attending games maybe it would be worth trying again?
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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 6:06pm
Does anyone care about a league cup though? Really. Especially in a small country and you have a handfull of teams in total anyway. League and FAI Cup i think serves us right. Throw in Europe for some teams. Its hard enough getting the fixtures we have played.
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 8:28pm
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The games were mid week and only a handful of fans used to turn up. Costs for away games etc.
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Posted By: irelandfan
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 8:35pm
Would have more Interest in attending a League Cup game than Leinster Cup game
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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2023 at 8:38pm
 irelandfan wrote:
Would have more Interest in attending a League Cup game than Leinster Cup game |
Newsflash they are both sh1te.
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 9:45am
doherty wrote:
Does anyone care about a league cup though? Really. Especially in a small country and you have a handfull of teams in total anyway. League and FAI Cup i think serves us right. Throw in Europe for some teams. Its hard enough getting the fixtures we have played. |
Yeah must say I've no time for it. We play the same teams enough as it is
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Posted By: Aaron1930
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 9:56am
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage.
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Posted By: darman28
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:02am
Aaron1930 wrote:
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage. |
I was thinking similar myself last Autumn that the system for the Scottish league cup in preseason would be an interesting way to go. Sure most LOI regional teams just end up playing each other in preseason friendlies anyway. It would add a bit of competitiveness to those fixtures. Great additional idea to the regional format idea.
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:07am
darman28 wrote:
Aaron1930 wrote:
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage. |
I was thinking similar myself last Autumn that the system for the Scottish league cup in preseason would be an interesting way to go. Sure most LOI regional teams just end up playing each other in preseason friendlies anyway. It would add a bit of competitiveness to those fixtures. Great additional idea to the regional format idea. |
Pre-season? Regionalised? You mean like the Leinster Senior Cup and the Munster senior cup???
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Posted By: PaddyMaddenIsCounty!
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:13am
Borussia wrote:
darman28 wrote:
Aaron1930 wrote:
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage. |
I was thinking similar myself last Autumn that the system for the Scottish league cup in preseason would be an interesting way to go. Sure most LOI regional teams just end up playing each other in preseason friendlies anyway. It would add a bit of competitiveness to those fixtures. Great additional idea to the regional format idea. |
Pre-season? Regionalised? You mean like the Leinster Senior Cup and the Munster senior cup??? |
Wouldn’t really be a league cup if non league junior teams were invited to join would it?
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Posted By: Aaron1930
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:15am
Borussia wrote:
[QUOTE=darman28][QUOTE=Aaron1930]Pre-season? Regionalised? You mean like the Leinster Senior Cup and the Munster senior cup??? |
Kind of like them, yes. A team can get knocked out of them after one game though. That's not all that great for them.
I like the idea of a group. Allows more games than the standard Cup format and you can quickly whittle the numbers down. In most regions you'll have a mix of LOI Premier, First Division, Senior League, Intermediate, Junior, even inter-league.
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Posted By: Aaron1930
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:17am
PaddyMaddenIsCounty! wrote:
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Wouldn’t really be a league cup if non league junior teams were invited to join would it?[/QUOTE]
Suppose it wouldn't. We'll worry about the name afterwards. That's a minor detail I'd have thought  |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 11:25am
PaddyMaddenIsCounty! wrote:
Borussia wrote:
darman28 wrote:
Aaron1930 wrote:
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage. |
I was thinking similar myself last Autumn that the system for the Scottish league cup in preseason would be an interesting way to go. Sure most LOI regional teams just end up playing each other in preseason friendlies anyway. It would add a bit of competitiveness to those fixtures. Great additional idea to the regional format idea. |
Pre-season? Regionalised? You mean like the Leinster Senior Cup and the Munster senior cup??? |
Wouldn’t really be a league cup if non league junior teams were invited to join would it? |
And that is true but what I was more getting it is there is a pre-season regionalised competition in Munster and Leinster and they aren't really taken too seriously.
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Posted By: 10 Box
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 12:09pm
Borussia wrote:
PaddyMaddenIsCounty! wrote:
Borussia wrote:
darman28 wrote:
Aaron1930 wrote:
I don't see there being any major desire for it to return. I think it was an inconvenience for all parties; organisers had to find sponsors, managers end up moaning about fixture congestion/travel, crowds were low midweek......and Waterford regularly got knocked out early doors.
I have to say I like the Scottish League Cup format with group stages that begin pre-season. There's 8 groups of 5 teams based on the previous seasons' league table. Teams in Europe get byes so come in for the knockout stages. 2 teams from each of the 8 groups go through so you drop from 40 to 16 in no time and it's wrapped up before the 'business end' of the season.
If we were to follow that style of format, I'd rather the groups were regionalised. You could add in your Junior/Intermediate/local (Premier) Cup champions into a regionalised group to add numbers if you wanted to bulk up numbers a bit. Could make for some decent games if you've got strong Junior sides coming up against First Division subs/19s and every team gets 4 games so you don't just get hammered in a one-off mismatch and you're gone.
Pie in the sky stuff if there's no backing for it, but maybe if crowds keep growing it could be worth revisiting at some stage. |
I was thinking similar myself last Autumn that the system for the Scottish league cup in preseason would be an interesting way to go. Sure most LOI regional teams just end up playing each other in preseason friendlies anyway. It would add a bit of competitiveness to those fixtures. Great additional idea to the regional format idea. |
Pre-season? Regionalised? You mean like the Leinster Senior Cup and the Munster senior cup??? |
Wouldn’t really be a league cup if non league junior teams were invited to join would it? |
And that is true but what I was more getting it is there is a pre-season regionalised competition in Munster and Leinster and they aren't really taken too seriously. |
If I remember correctly the league was played pre-season here in the 80's & maybe later. Groups of four with knockout stages later in the season.
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Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 8:41pm
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Non league teams have often played in the league cup
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