Tom Cannon
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Topic: Tom Cannon
Posted By: You Tell Me
Subject: Tom Cannon
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 4:42pm
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Comes on as a sub for Everton against Bournemouth to become the 200th Irish player to play in the Premier League.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 4:52pm
Does he have the firepower we need? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
You Tell Me wrote:Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 4:59pm
He certainly will always have a ball by his side. Rock on Tommy. ------------- AKA pedantic kunt |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 5:02pm
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Not the easiest game for him to make his debut in, possibly Lampard's last as their manager. Nice moment for him though and hopefully he will go out on loan after Christmas.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 5:05pm
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Tommy Gunn ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 5:28pm
Tbf to the lad he did well when he came on. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 5:33pm
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Has he Irish grandparents? ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 5:44pm
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The guy was just fodder for the cherries ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 6:16pm
| Looks more like a tank. Big unit of a lad. |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 9:35pm
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Can you name the other 199 Republic of Ireland players with Premier League appearances? https://www.sporcle.com/games/IrishAbroad/name-all-fai-players-with-premier-league-appearances" rel="nofollow - https://www.sporcle.com/games/IrishAbroad/name-all-fai-players-with-premier-league-appearances (note - does not include any player who has changed international allegiance from the Republic of Ireland) ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: shakeyshamrock
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 10:15pm
Do all those players have Ireland caps?
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 10:31pm
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They definitely won't all have senior caps - I'd say 50+ are uncapped at senior level, but almost all if not all will either have senior caps, underage caps or been in an Ireland squad at some point.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 10:35pm
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 10:37pm
15 mins isnt enough time, only got 85 in. I thought i was nailing the tough ones until i revealed the list at the end. Jaysis. Scott Fitzgerald, Brian Launders. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 11:00pm
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I think the only player on the list to have never played for, or at least been called up by Ireland at any level is Rory Ginty from Galway. Played for Crystal Palace in the Premier League, including against Liverpool, but was never called up by Ireland at any age group. Now living and working back in Galway. https://www.the42.ie/rory-ginty-interview-5074722-Apr2020/" rel="nofollow - https://www.the42.ie/rory-ginty-interview-5074722-Apr2020/
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 11:10pm
Have extended it to twenty minutes, and surnames are accepted as answers now ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Mr. Snrub
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 10:56am
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Got 122 and missed some recent ones, very tough but good quiz! ------------- "Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!" |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 11:18am
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Very tough alright, could still be sitting here now and wouldn't have got some of those. 127/200
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Posted By: Mr. Snrub
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 11:56am
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What is Cannon's link to The Eire? ------------- "Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!" |
Posted By: Heimatklange
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 2:41pm
| only got 118 kicking myself at some of the obvious one. |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 3:21pm
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According to sporcle, there's been 106 attempts at the quiz, and the highest number of correct answers is 156 Two players have not been guessed by anyone who's taken the quiz at all Two players have been guessed by 95% of the people who've taken the quiz ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Green Cockade
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 3:24pm
| Tom Cannon qualifies for the EIRE via an Irish granny. He is a scouser by birth. |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 10:17am
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The high score on the quiz is now 180, which is an amazing score All answers have now been guessed at least once The average score is 105 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 2:07pm
I got 120 something before running out of time, had it there been non time limit or a generous 60 minutes Id have gotten 170-180 but there are at least a dozen names in there you'd never get. Great quiz though!
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 2:17pm
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The time limit is 25 minutes, that's the maximum allowed on a sporcle quiz
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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 2:19pm
Was it changed? Nearly sure it was 15 minutes yesterday!
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 3:06pm
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A few people asked to change it ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 3:08pm
| In the end i was just guessing generic Irish surnames |
Posted By: CillDara
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 6:40pm
| I got around 130 when I tried it. Got nearly all of the recent ones but started to get patchy then. Some super obvious ones that I forgot in the end and plenty of ones I've never even heard of. |
Posted By: Luis Amor Rodriguez
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2022 at 6:43pm
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Comes on as a sub for Everton in the PL today. 19 year-old striker getting PL game-time. Admittedly, I've never seem him play, but the preceding sentence is enough for me to say he should be in our next senior squad. Kenny needs to get these guys involved - yesterday. As for Kenny's failure to integrate Hodge and Smallbone .....  Or even make a (senior) effort with Gallagher and Bellingham back when they were underage and flying below the radar...
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Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2022 at 6:55pm
| I would agree completely with the above post |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2022 at 7:12pm
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Does Cannon have the firepower we are after to do some real damage? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2022 at 7:12pm
This is so silly. You think Bellingham was flying under the radar when he was bossing championship games aged 16. You must live in an actual dream land if you think we ever had a chance there
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Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2022 at 7:39pm
------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Luis Amor Rodriguez
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 1:30am
Jude Bellingham - aged 4 or 5 below. Has strong Irish heritage. He wasn't bossing Championship games at 16. He was a talented young winger that got a goal every 10 games or so in England's second division and was playing underage internationally. Was he good enough that we should have been looking into getting him involved at some level on the senior side - even in an extended squad? Definitely. Was any effort made (even if arguably unlikely to succeed)? Seemingly not.  |
Posted By: Luis Amor Rodriguez
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 1:31am
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Can't seem to get the picture to post - technical difficulties - but it's Bellingham as a kid in full Irish kit. |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 1:49am
I remember when Wayne Rooney broke through, the FAI approached him and were given short shrift. Kane, Maddison, Bamford, Gallagher, Grealish, Rice, James and countless others have all either been in the setup or been approached. They all chose to go with England even when caps were not immediately forthcoming. As for Bellingham wearing an Ireland jersey when he was a toddler. Do you think he put that on himself? It doesn't mean anything. Same kind of logic as Nialler on the Joe Hodge thread coming out with nonsense about Hodge's dad wanting him to play for us, Hodge learning Irish, Hodge being committed, England being angry that he left their setup. Source: "trust me bro". When if you read the articles since his injury return, Hodge doesn't mention anything about seniors and says he's looking forward to playing with the 21's. Not to mention the fact he was a bit-part player when he left the English setup to be an integral player with us. Source: Transfermarkt/Soccerway. This isn't Championship Manager. Lads like Bellingham are not stupid enough to tie themselves down in the 94th minute of a game against Andorra, not that lads with his potential would be anywhere near our setup. For God's sake, his brother Jobe hasn't even shown any interest. ------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Eoink21
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 11:35am
| Independent interview is behind a paywall but Hodge clearly states that his father wanted him to at least give Ireland a go and he definitely states that he wants to break into the senior side. Whether or not he eventually does, I don't know, but you not wanting something to have been said doesn't mean it hasn't. |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 12:00pm
------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 12:13pm
There's no point in even engaging, all the evidence in the world will just be dismissed as "trust me bro" speculation, while idle suspicion that no one born outside of Ireland could possibly consider themselves Irish will be elevated as gospel. You can't convince a conspiracy theorist of their own absurdity. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 12:18pm
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Meanwhile Nialler still hasn't responded to Baggio's question about sources from three years ago : https://forum.ybig.ie/joe-hodge_topic57102_page1.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.ybig.ie/joe-hodge_topic57102_page1.html and has already been called out about his easily disproven assertions about Hodge leaving the England set-up despite being "one of their most important players". Hodge has bounced between the setups. It's not a conspiracy to say that he could play for England when he has played for them in the past and remains eligible. ------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Eoink21
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 2:46pm
That wasn't all you said though. Nobody has denied this fact.
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Posted By: AbuAbu
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2022 at 10:21pm
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Tom Cannon thread I thought! How good is he?? ------------- It's not me it's you:-) |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 12:25am
Who is Baggio? No clue what you are talking about there. He was between setups and bouncing. I said he then choose Ireland over England when the decision had to be made. A lot of people were unhappy about it on the England side. He was hot property and in the best academy on the planet was he not? A lot of it had to do with his dad too. Its all on England forums. I read them at the time. I am not bothered to search because who cares, do it if it means that much to ya. Any lad playing age groups up is a de facto important under age player. He was moved up to 17's at 15 in England and you are right got less minutes but the year before at few weeks past 15 played under 16's and played all 8 games and 635 minutes. You had to really nitpick to find a moan on that comment. A Clear animus toward any dual eligible players causing it. https://youtu.be/nKPciAEoxOE?t=200 In his own words. he had a decision to make and he choose us and is sticking with it. He is happy with us and it was a great decision. Your very thin assertion repeatedly is he could have turned downed the call up already and Kenny is protecting him with literally 0 evidence. Glass houses lad.
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Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 12:44am
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"I said he then choose Ireland over England when the decision had to be made." What decision? Underage caps aren't binding! "He was hot property and in the best academy on the planet was he not?" And what club is he at now? "Your very thin assertion repeatedly is he could have turned downed the call up already and Kenny is protecting him with literally 0 evidence. Glass houses lad." I'm not the only one (You Tell Me) who pointed out the possibility of Kenny covering for him in the case of him declining an immediate senior call-up. Kenny is more diplomatic than McCarthy, O'Neill and Trapattoni. He said he was going to fast track players like Hodge to avoid the mistakes of his predecessors and he hasn't done it with Hodge despite calling up Ferguson. Now maybe he's just worried about his job, hence going with "reliables" like Hourihane, but we don't know that he didn't try calling up Hodge so it's a bit hasty having a go at him if he's just exercising diplomacy and restraint with Hodge. I've never made any assertions about anything. I'm just raising a possibility. ------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Scissors Kick
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 1:00am
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I think I raised this as a possibility first a few days back. It may not be but it absolutely could be, so those dismissing it because of things he's said are very naive IMO. The lad is English. With one grandparent as the link I do not believe its actually possible to feel more Irish than English even if he wanted to. Latvia, if he stays involved at Wolves and doesn't feature then we'll know. |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 8:29am
Thank you, great arbiter of nationality. Nice to know you have an inside track into the lads own mind on his identity. As for the following sentence, why would it matter a jot to Hodge, Cannon, or any other person what you think it is possible to feel about nationality? Are you a uniquely positioned individual to provide this insight? ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 3:01pm
The decision he made still has a very big impact? lets not pretend it makes no difference binding or not. There is no evidence to say Kenny would have called him up the lad only started making appearances for Wolves at senior level recently. V unlikely. I agree on the last bit. Kenny is under alot of pressure and picking experienced players. This is partly where my frustration comes from. I think the FAI are partly to blame in the pressure he is under. He is between a rock and hard place. I still think he could get his experienced players in and have 2 or 3 spots for new caps. do we need 3 older left wingbacks for example. I think he should be focused on age profiles and talent ceilings a lot more than he is. We should also be a bit more like Italy where players can move up and down from 21's. The process should be a lot clearer. Hopefully the next manager ends up with the benefit from his work. He is very unlikely to survive the next quals.
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 3:30pm
His dad plays a huge part in his career. You are actually outrageous. Does his dad not manage players?  He was playing age groups up. You probably know that just choosing to leave it out. the previous season he played 650 minutes in 8 games an age group above. in 18 months played 15 times for England underage but a bit part player!! All your arguments are completely disingenuous and all just to cast doubt over people representing Ireland. It is sad. The English were very annoyed by it. It is all in English forums. I told you already where I found all of this. I am just not doing "sourcing" for you as I am not a journalist. You don't care about sourcing anyway you just have a ferocious appetite to neg dual nationality players especially the English ones. Will you continue to neg him after he wins a cap though? or will it forever be he could never have played for England is the only reason he is here? |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 12:30pm
Steve Cooper preferred an Azeez/Musah pivot and Hodge switched to Ireland because he'd start every game as opposed to being a bit-part player. Funny you keep mentioning his dad with unsourced tidbits, most of which are demonstrable nonsense (best player at that age group with City as opposed to someone like Cole Palmer...). His dad used to post on BigSoccer and sounded pretty delighted when Hodge was called up for England at underage level. Also apparently instrumental in getting Hodge to play for Ireland because he'd feature more. Anyways, he might play for Ireland, he might play for England. My main bone of contention is people attacking Stephen Kenny and Keith Andrews and the FAI for not being proactive enough when it's clearly nonsense. Andrews has been very proactive in encouraging the McGlynn lad and Kenny delivered a great pitch to Finn and his family. ------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 1:26pm
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Me: his dad played a big part in him moving You: "Funny you keep mentioning his dad with unsourced tidbits" Later on in same post by you.. His dad played a big part in him moving to Ireland Got there eventually Me: ONE of the best players at his age group and is playing up age groups. You : names Cole Palmer. While Hodge gets academy player of the year 2 years after the switch I am not criticising Kenny for not proactively going after players like Mcglynn. I actually think he has been good on that front. I am criticising him for picking players well past their best and too old in 2 years for tournaments over players in our system with clear talent and in need of experience (and caps) not starting 11 players but why not number 20-27 in the squad. Also make a pathway both ways between seniors and 21's. Up and down. Make the 21's a bigger deal and share their best. Italy and Portugal do it so why not us |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 1:36pm
His dad encouraged him to play for Ireland for reasons completely different to all the "learning Irish"/"learning the anthem" sentimental reasons you came out with. Reasons which fly in the face of him being committed to playing for Ireland at senior level, which is completely different to being committed to playing for Ireland at junior level. Who are these players who should be starting ahead of Molumby, Knight and Hendrick? Smallbone? He's had a mediocre season for Stoke. Hodge? He's started one league game and we don't know that Kenny didn't try calling him up. Vata? He's played ten minutes in his senior career. Jack Taylor? Who is being deprived of rightful playing time here? This isn't Championship Manager. We don't cap every player who's eligible for us in second half stoppage time of competitive games to tie them down forever more on the off chance that they turn out to be good enough (not that eligible players are idiots with no autonomy of their own). It would be a waste of time and resources, similar in futility to Martin O'Neill chasing up players who aren't eligible http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/oneill-in-tug-of-war-for-hot-prospect-redmond-29879535.html" rel="nofollow - http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/oneill-in-tug-of-war-for-hot-prospect-redmond-29879535.html and Mick McCarthy doing the same thing 5! years later https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/nathan-redmond-ireland-england-squad-16156651.amp" rel="nofollow - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/nathan-redmond-ireland-england-squad-16156651.amp
------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 2:18pm
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You literally put arguments in my mouth I didn't make. You are great at making points against those arguments though fair play. |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2023 at 11:26pm
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Sheffield Wednesday favourites to sign him on loan. Also linked with Luke McNally. ------------- You know Spider, you're a f**kin' mumbling stuttering little f**k. You know that? |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 1:07am
The Gunners want Cannon at the Arsenal ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Green Cockade
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2023 at 8:27am
| Either that’s a load of balls or Everton want shot of him. |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2023 at 2:18pm
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Straight into the Preston starting team today. Parrott on the bench also.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 4:18pm
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Scores for Preston. 30th Irish goalscorer in the Championship this season.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 4:55pm
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Cannonball ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Mr. Snrub
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 5:00pm
Being linked with the Gunners after hitting the target. He fancies a shot in the Premier League ------------- "Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!" |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 5:11pm
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He walks slowly down the hall ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 6:36pm
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This lad is doing well. Good to see he’s not out of place at Championship level on his first foray into men’s football. Interesting to see can he get another few between now and the end of the season.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 4:36pm
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Looks a good player for his age, held off a Cardiff defender and finished well for Preston there. Usually when a player goes on their first loan to the Championship it's a struggle, especially for a centre forward, so Cannon is doing really well, especially in a Preston team that doesn't create much.
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 4:39pm
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They create nothing. Had a slow enough start as you would expect but he's performing pretty well over the last few games. Parrott on the other hand looks dejected, working hard as always but not even getting half chances his way. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: PaulYK
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 4:39pm
| Very well taken goal. Showed some real quality. |
Posted By: PaulYK
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 4:58pm
| Awful foul by Alnwick, in goal for Cardiff, on Cannon just outside the box. Gets himself sent off. Cannon looks winded, but okay. Cannon having a very good game. |
Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 5:18pm
| He has more goals from open play in the championship than Parrott.. that's a harrowing stat |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 6:28pm
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Parrott is this new breed of modern striker. The non goal scoring striker. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 6:43pm
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Interesting that the two of them are keeping Delap out of the team. No minutes at all for him in the last three games now.
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Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 7:02pm
Bang-on. ------------- 
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Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 7:21pm
Them and Ched Evans are, Evans played the last game ahead of cannon and the one before ahead of parrott.
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Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 7:23pm
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Not to dampen enthusiasm but where’s the indication this lad will definitely be playing for us going forward? Has he been in any competitive squads? He does seem promising so hope he is.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 7:26pm
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He's played competitively for our Under 19s.
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Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 9:55pm
He saw all the YBIG debates on "goal involvements" and decided to save us the hassle by not getting any
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Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 11:20pm
Had a look over on the Preston forum and they think Cannon is "light years ahead of Parrott". If this lad is interested he has a good argument to be called up instead of some of the usuals.
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 11:52pm
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I would have Cannon ahead of Collins and Keane tbh. 20 years old with a much higher ceiling. he looks like he will develop into a proper 9 in time. Ireland weirdly have a lot of 9 options under 23 which is great as there is a dearth of them in football these days.
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Posted By: PaddyMaddenIsCounty!
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2023 at 11:55pm
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:44am
Parrott unfortunately lacks any real elite physical gifts the 9's need at the top level. He will prob never be a 9 at that level. no Shock to see him playing deeper as his career goes on.
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Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:51am
Whilst I agree, you could argue that Harry Kane isn't exactly physically blessed. He's strong enough maybe but he doesn't have much pace. The fact of the matter is that Troy is not good enough technically to make up for his lack of physicality.
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 1:13am
His ball striking is great. Needs to add more though. I do think he will be a long term international though. just will prob really only see the best of him in a few years if he can graft. I am not sure he has it upstairs though.
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 1:41am
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Parrott is tall and naturally quite good in the air, as he fills out his frame he could become quite good as a link man/target man type striker. He has no pace to trouble defenders in behind so he's going to have to adapt himself somehow to make it any higher than the Championship in his career. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 11:22am
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I'd be interested to see whether or not he'd accept a call up to ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: Pinginí
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 11:34am
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We'd never find out if he accpeted a call or not. The FAI would ask, he'd say no and then would either be left out or put in the 21s and the discussion is never mentioned publicly. It's been mentioned loads but we really need to take an approach similar to Wales on it. Call them up, give them game time and force their hand soon as they're good enough. If they don't want to play, banish them and forget about them. The argument putting dual eligble players out for the sake of capping them is moot when we're unironically wheeling Conor Hourihane out to close out competitive games against Armenia If Brennan Johnson had an Irish granny instead of a Welsh one, there'd still be public discourse on will he, won't he with England. But he's Welsh, so he has 18 caps and it's not even a point of discussion.
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Posted By: Badgersboys9
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 11:37am
| According to a few cousin's he has his heart set on playing for Engerland. |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 11:55am
That is absolutely not what Wales do. They happily let players jump between Wales and England and only cap them if and when they want to be capped. Incidentally, for all the talk about Wales, Johnson aside they seem to have absolutely f**k all talent coming through at the moment. The only other one is (Irish eligible) Luke Harris who apparently has his sights set on England to the point that he declined any involvement with Wales at the World Cup a few months ago.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 11:59am
Apparently he's in a WhatsApp group with Evan Ferguson and Joe Hodge discussing England callup strategies.
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:04pm
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I have no issues with granny rulers bur I do think if someone rejects playing for Ireland they should never be involved again at any age group. Cannon has played at 19 and 20's. If he did reject a senior call up he shouldn't be selected for 21's. Al hypothetical though. |
Posted By: Given's zimmerframe
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:07pm
I would agree with this
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:30pm
Why do we continue to second guess ourselves when there is no good reason to? There's been no indication from anywhere that Cannon wouldn't accept a call up. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 12:37pm
Well we second guess ourselves because the lad has options to play for different countries. But I do agree there is no suggestion he wouldn't accept one. I would say again for sure I would call him up over the Collins, Hogans and Keanes of the world and even as a supporter of what Kenny is doing I will judge him harshly on decisions like this where he could add a talented young player to the pool that is good for 10 years and not just the week in hand.
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 1:24pm
| More worthy of a call up than Idah at the moment. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 1:34pm
He def is. I don't think Kenny will call up too many new faces for this. It is a shame really he has had such poor results that he is pretty much under the cosh every game now. It might actually be better to move Kenny on if we don't qualify even if he does well enough for this reason alone. He is in the "decisions being made to save his job" zone now rather than decisions that benefit the future. He loves Idah though... could well see him in the squad. Idah particularly annoys me because he completely lacks any aggression and is prob one of the strongest physically we have. |
Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2023 at 11:35am
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Idah is still working his way back to full fitness, people are too quick to write lads off, still looks a bit off it to me, but I suspect he'll make the squad. Cannon has started well at PNE but he's played less than 10 senior games and given he is U21 eligible. I'd expect him to be the main man for them for now. We can see where he is at vis-a-vis the competition come the start of the 2023/24 season. ------------- Idah Dream! |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2023 at 11:38am
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Idah's been written off/back on a few times already, like every other young striker we have. I would say Cannon won't have to wait too long before the same things are said about him. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2023 at 11:49am
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Key for Idah is he’s playing games regularly. Just needs to see out the season. He’s getting plenty gametime which is good to see. On the management front they do seem to be favouring experience. Giving Hernandez a new lease of life Hanley seems untouchable regardless of how bad he plays. Even Ramsey on loan from Villa was terminated by them which was ridiculously harsh very promising player.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 8:10pm
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Scores again. Easy enough close range finish this time though.
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 8:11pm
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Get him in the senior squad, no messing around. |
Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 8:11pm
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What's the chances of this guy dropping us like a hot potato? Haven't really been following him much ------------- I love beer gardens |
Posted By: darman28
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 8:15pm
| All the irish lads involved in Cannon's goal. Browne crosses the ball in, Brady heads the ball back across the goal and Cannon finishes it. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2023 at 8:18pm
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Hard to argue Idah is ahead now...
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