However there is a minority scum element thats attached itself to the domestic game needs to be eradicated. It's been there for years and it's across a lot of teams, it's not just 1 or 2. I've experienced it first hand at Derry, Rovers and Bohs games down through the years. I know for a fact there have been incidents at Cork and Dundalk games that my mates have attended

Imagine bringing a child to the game today and being caught up in that. You'd never give the LOI another look. And rightly so 

Complete and utter scum.

I was in the pub in question.

Disgraceful scenes and not Pats to blame. Completely unfair to pin this on us. 

Copshop twenty yards away yet none were about as this happened. 

.They are damageing  the match day experience for groups who we are trying to attract  to our matches .

Who blamed pats? 

Absolute scum. 

Thankfully didn’t see any trouble ourselves as we had quiet a few kids in our group. 

IDK why people act surprised about this. It's not enough to smoke weed, you have to announce it to the world. Do you know any person who smokes weed and doesn't wear it as a badge of pride? 

How would it be any different with someone taking a bump of coke? Sure they could do it in a discreet way but where's the fun in that? They want people to know that they're totally badass! 

No one is blaming Pats fans here. It's been made widely known that it was Bohs "fans" who did this.

I think this is an important point - I've seen a few times that Bohs fans try and pin trouble on Rovers fans but I think yesterday proves that many clubs have a small element that will attach themselves to any event looking for trouble. Hopefully this can be stamped out across all clubs as ultimately the league will suffer if there are more scenes like that. As others have pointed out, we can't afford for people with kids to decide that they don't feel safe bringing kids to games etc. 

You would imagine the CCTV in the area would be pretty good and plenty of eye witnesses so surely the guards will be able to make a few charges and convictions out of it

Big time and the amount of points scoring all the time is petty and it is petty when Bohs fans do it when rovers act up etc.  

This is an issue for the league if it wants to attract family based fans etc.  I suspect there is a small element who

Never want that to happen and are happy for it to to be niche activity on the margins of society.  

Whoever did that yesterday are scum and if they are Bohs fans they are scum and if they are not they are still scum.  

Wouldn’t agree that every clubs has them. Always a few eejits in every walk of life tho. 90% of it comes from the same two or three clubs unfortunately and unfortunately it seems like it’s turned into a game of who can shout the loudest when either Bohs or Shamrock Rovers are involved. Not that it should be swept under the carpet but on what was a great occasion with fantastic attendance those 10/20 scumbags are giving the league unneeded negative headlines. Would be good if Bohs actually address it.

You serious? Might be a couple of scrotes in the singing section but there is no sign of the kind of ****s that were in action yesterday. 

??? Like it doesn't happen in the premiership either? Do you go to football matches at all??

One of the most ridiculous things Ive read on here in a while and it has lots of competition.

There was probably about 10k kids there yesterday and I would say 100 saw that yesterday max. That’s not condoning what happened and the Gardai any if they were Bohs fans should come down on hard on them. But the bast majority of kids yesterday would have had a ball and I know as I had 2 with me and a 16 year old. They loved the day.  

If you go to an EPL game and you happen to be in the wrong pub beforehand this is liable to happen also. It doesn’t get reported on by sky as they don’t like to see their product tainted.   

So live in la la land if you like.  

Ive been to most LOI grounds and all of the Dublin ones as both as an away fan and as a neutral and have for the most part have had positive experiences. Likewise I have had a rare negative at all grounds, your own included. Nobody is whiter than white. 

It’s off the charts 

What? Bohs sell out every week? Rovers had 7k on a few weeks back. When was the last time you were at Tallaght? Never seen any hassle at either. 

The reason it is reported is that it was a very serious incident and it is important this is nipped in the bud if it is to be the start of something.

“Travelling UK fans”

Nah vast majority are obviously regulat supporters and I haven't see any of the black clad hooded groups but you get younger groups who are a little bit riff raff in and around the area who would be quite disrespectful to others and can cause tension in the stands. And it seems to be growing imo (or maybe I'm just getting older and don't understand the kids these days). my point would be it could grow worse and spill over into scummy instances, especially if said fans save enough pocket money to do an away trip 

It's happened before where ine of the more viral severe Street clashes involving LOI fans actually had fans from a UK club involved.  Same stuff again then?

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Wrexham. 

Happening once in two years, isn't every time they play! Been to that game a few times, never had any hassle.

Picking a game that happens four times a year is hardly representative of the league either. 

That’s only a cop out. There’s a well known connection between Bohs and Wrexham. The club should be speaking to the people who helped formed them connections to cut them loose. It’s a bit pointless to say that they aren’t club members or go to games when they are literally invited by members and match goers.

Im saying the kids and grown men throwing sh*t are likely not members, regardless of where they come from

Not likely members but when it is likely that members have been inviting them over surely they can tell the members to cop on or stay away.

I doubt they came over off their own bat. Or found a pub full of Pats fans by accident. 

 

I'm asking to see if was club members or season ticket holders that have the link with them.

Have seen some suggestions on Twitter that the Brits were in taking pictures in Dalymount on the morning of the game.

Its their little hooligan group that have a link with them the bsc. Some of them would be members/season ticket holders.

Agreed, have never seen any trouble at a game against Pats home or away. Unfortunately we all know a different crowd can show up for the Rovers games and by extension big days out like the cup final. You wouldn't see them at the vast majority of games. 

Totally condemn the idiots who started the trouble and i hope they're never seen anywhere near our games again, but this isn't a problem unique to Bohs or Irish football, and anyone who thinks that it is needs to give their head a wobble. 

It mightn't be a problem unique to Bohs but they are the common denominator in the trouble with the Cup final and the trouble at recent Rovers/Bohs games. 

I live in the area and have been to plenty of Bohs games, we all know 99% of their fans are proper football fans, and they've a great football tradition, but they've got to do all they can to get rid of this element. It's undoing a lot of great work the club is doing.

Saw the Celtic crowd at an away in tallaght a few years back but not since, I’d hoped they all died but no such luck apparently.

Rovers casuals have links with bury and that fat bastard from Man City who got battered by the garda() a while back, it was on you tube. Also used to bring random millwall thicks over once upon a time.

Shels also had a nasty little bunch of ball bags who had Lincoln city hoolies over at matches against bohs in the early 2000’s

Would you and other fans of your club have the balls to grass them up given the chance? 

That would be giving the Gardai way too much credit. They are nowhere to be seen when trouble actually kicks off, was the same in the last derby before covid where rovers fans attacked a bohs fan in phibsboro. They're happy to take the overtime and throw their weight around trying to intimidate regular match-going fans, but as soon as there's trouble, they don't want to know.

The garda on the day and in general were a disgrace, showed up when it was too late as usual then were aggressive towards pats supporters who were up till then enjoying the build up to the final. That needs addressing they are paid a fortune to police these things and all they do is antagonise fans and hide when there's actual trouble