Squad for Loughborough, Irish based players weren't eligible 

Aaron O'Reilly (Aston Villa)

Connor Barratt (Birmingham City) 

Will Blease (Blackburn Rovers)

Zak Gilsenan (Blackburn Rovers) 

Rio McEvoy (Bolton Wanderers) 

Ruairi Behan (Burnley) 

Ciaran Gilligan (Burton Albion) 

Jay McGrath (Coventry City) 

Fionn O'Brien (Coventry City)

Noah Watson (Crystal Palace) 

Ola Ibrahim (Derby County) 

Cian Kelly Caprani (Derby County) 

Cian Coleman (Leeds United) 

Ben Andreucci (Leeds United)

Arlo Doherty (Leicester City)

Billy Brooks (Lincoln City)

Matthew Boylan (Lincoln City)

Ed McJannett (Luton Town)

Owen Mason (Mansfield Town) 

Callum Kavanagh (Middlesbrough) 

Sam Blair (Norwich City) 

Osakpolor Solomon (Nottingham Forest)

Josh Seary (Preston North End)

Harry Nevin (Preston North End) 

Jacob Slater (Preston North End)

Sinclair Armstrong (QPR) 

Harvey Cullinan (Sheffield United) 

Leonardo Gaxha (Sheffield United) 

Luke Pearce (Southampton) 

Noah Jauny (Stade Brestois) 

David Okagbue (Stoke City) 

Joshua Ireland (Stoke City) 

Sam Knowles (Stoke City)

Caden Kelly (Sunderland)

Aaron Maguire (Tottenham Hotspur) 

Bosun Lawall (Watford) 

Joe O'Shaugnessy (Wolves) 

Any surprises in that lot? Apart from Ireland and Gilsenan I suppose

Any lads in that list more exciting then those two? 

Edit - I suppose Zefi is still based in Ireland, which would explain his absence.

The first two maybe in contention for u21. Quinn probably staying with celtic, whose u18 season started late. 

Ben Andreucci was with Scotland.

Looks like a scorched-earth policy in terms of recruitment/player selection.

No harm I suppose it’s seems like we have only missed out on dual nationality players the last few years instead of picking them up. Going there will be plenty lost but might gain a few too

It’s for England based players I’m finding on the whole hence Ferguson Moran Zefi Roughan Adaramola even all these players I’m thinking are at home at the moment as there season has finished? 

Seems a mixture of players with dual nationalities and players who basically are English born. 

It’s almost like a grooming job. 😂 It’s a great idea we should do it once or twice a year for U19s in particular as you can bring in lads of multiple ages from 15-18 at ages where they may only be thinking about their international situation. Your getting in early it sets the seed. 

 

But yes, it's definitely a good exercise to get into the heads of these lads. 

That must have been a fun one for the department of education to figure out 

Fair play to the lad and his family, have the head screwed on correctly. 

Noah Jauny, who plays for Stade Brestois, is the son of Frenchman, Stephane Jauny, who played in the LOI.

Left foot wrote: Would have been a massive boost if Liam Delap was on that list.

History dictates that >95% of these lads won't play for us if they end up at teams like Arsenal/Tottenham/Everton/Leeds. Or pretty much any team in the PL that isn't a yoyo club.

Christie, Walters, St Ledger, Arter, McGoldrick, Green, Westwood, Robinson, O'Dowda, Keogh

I thought of 10 granny rule players off the top of my head and those are probably the highest profile granny rule players who've played for us since the Staunton era.

Not one of those would have got within an arse's roar of the English setup.

O'Dowda and Robinson were young and playing at a reasonable level when they were tied down, but we're talking about someone who has made half of his career appearances at club level off the bench (O'Dowda), and someone who's failed to make the grade at two PL clubs (Robinson).

I don't think any of that group were savants for us, or anyone else, at underage level. If an eligible player comes along and makes an impact for us, I think it's going to continue to be a grafter like Walters or McGoldrick and not a playmaker in the mold of Hoolahan or a goalscorer in the mold of Robbie.

It's a nice diversion looking at this list of players, even for me, and it's nice to wonder about what-ifs, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I would have thought that would be a snowballs chance in hell of ever happening? Do you think it possible? 

History probably dictates 95% probably won't go on to be senior internationals...for anyone. 

Based on no evidence or information that isn't already easily available (so purely opinion) I think he'll play for ireland. 

His Irish heritage and family are as green as you can get. His dad played in green for the u21 and senior team and would have had a lot more caps if injury didn't get in the way, and he has close ties to family in ireland. Strong enough to have a name like Liam.

Wheras Harry Kane didn't really value his irish heritage, I get the feeling that  the delap family celebrate it.

Again, only opinion.

Does someone have to declare for Ireland to show appreciation for their heritage? Jamie O'Hara is perfectly aware of his Irish heritage but didn't want to take caps off an Irishman. Dave Kitson refused to play for Ireland out of principle. Harry Kane's father maintains links to Ireland and I'm sure he passed that down to Harry. But he was born and raised in England and feels English, and most importantly, is good enough to play for England.

There are loads of players playing for Ireland, or who played for Ireland, who don't care a jot about their Irish heritage. And there are likely several in that U19 list.

Sentiment rarely comes into it. And I suppose I should get with the program along with everyone else in that regard, even if I take a more cynical approach to the scorched-earth policy of recruiting anyone with an Irish surname, often to the neglect of, you know, actual Irish players at similar age groups.

Think it's fairly clear he wants to play for England. He played for England Under 18s at the end of March. 

Odubeko is of irish berth to parents of Nigerian heritage but may opt to play for England due to football ambition.

Bazunu has stronger ties as he was born in ireland and has an Irish parent. So far less likely want to play anywhere else bit still eligible.

You've got Ryan johansson who has taken the legal route to play for ireland.

There are ireland supporters on here that were born outside of ireland, given the chance would chose one of two international options had they played professionally. First option would be ireland, second option would be not playing international football at all.

As I said, Liam Dalap playing for ireland is just my opinion so should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Grealish played for the ireland youth setup with no ambition to play for the senior setup. Grealishs brother was on this forum saying "he's happy playing for ireland for now"

Where is there any indication that Delap wants to play for Ireland?

Kenny mentioned they already talked to him and he has subsequently then played for England. 

I have no issue with a scorched earth policy actually I’d regard this U19 camp in England full of lads of dual nationalities coming into our underage setup planting the seed showing your interest in them as shrewd a move as I have seen in a while. We will be having a separate homegrown/FAI camp too so it’s not that their expense.  

However it can’t continue to be at the expense of our homegrown players it needs to be in conjunction to complement a conveyor belt of homegrown talent you are spot on there. We have homegrown talent coming through now again. 

As regards Delap I’d make it shorter you would see Odubeko play for us and I don’t give that a hope not in the short term. Odubeko seems to have his eyes set on England. 

Entitled to it. The one thing I would definitely agree with is there’s more of a chance of the likes of Hodge Smallbone or even a Delap or an Odubeko to turn around and commit/stick with us in 3/4 years time due to the sheer amount of raw talent England are producing again. 

Look at the forwards, the attacking midfielders and the full backs England possess. It’s frightening the depth they are developing in those positions particularly.

Joel Bagan who’s is more than rumoured to be committing to us is an example of this. I’m not sure a young lad showing promise like he has on the cusp of playing for Cardiff only for injury at 19 would have done that 7/8 years ago. England 7/8 years ago had Baines Bertrand an ancient Ashley Cole out of favour and Luke Shaw being brought to the World Cup at 17. 

Che Adam’s for Scotland another example 7/8 years ago he wouldnt have been as far away from playing for England. Welbeck Rooney Sturridge and Lambert were the World Cup 2014 options. 

No comparison

They'll choose ireland as the next best option to push forward their football career (I guess its always been like that really when you hear jokes that we are the England B team)

If Bamford doesn't get chosen for the ngland squad in the euros and then declares for ireland, I wonder what the response would be?

Can he still technically declare for us? I thought he has been capped no? 

Some of our cult hero’s only declared for Ireland late in the day and openly admit they would have declared for England if approached strongly. 

It wouldn’t bother me at all similar to Che Adam’s with Scotland although it’s got to be a complement to the homegrown quality like Scotland not at the expense of producing it. 

U18s? Dortmund were trying to sign him apparently so he must be good. Don’t confess to knowing much about him beyond that. 

Good to see they have got him on board for the training camp. 

Stephen came out a few years ago and said it was a regret not playing more for Ireland and he would like to play again for us . At that stage he was past it 

Didn't Stephen Hunt go on Ryan Tubridy's show and laugh about how he was bullied when he went on national duty?

The lad is clearly eccentric but they could've showed more compassion to someone who was barely out of his teens.

God knows Declan Rice had his head turned. 

Gaffer- 'Anyone who's here for a jolly and to get attention for themselves from other nations can f**k off out that door now'

We should of learnt from the Rice/Grealish sagas and not waste money on guys who aren't committed

Yeah. Brilliant. 

We know half of you aren't Irish, but we called you up anyway, but f**k off now if you aren't Irish  .....    that's what you think should happen is it  ? 

And its  : should have learnt.

Clown  

Armstrong Okoflex is here but most excited about Kevin Zefi, Ryan O’Kane, and Johnny Kenny. Attacking midfielder Ethan Fitzhugh is a first time call up

I think. Has made a match day squad here and there for Leicester City. Fiona Mooney is another - has played for us and England at underage level.

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-players-named-for-mohans-ireland-training-camp" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-players-named-for-mohans-ireland-training-camp

I think some of those were involved in the training camp

at Loughborough University in May. This is the second part of that big camp to evaluate different player. Not sure about Evan Ferguson though. Can’t remember Mohan mentioning him last time out. Still, this is a strong group up front

A few of those lads are only 16/were involved in the British based camp so I wouldn’t read anything into that a while. Gilsenan reading between the lines I’d be confident he will pick us yet. 

Seeing this squad on top of the British based camp it’s exciting particularly the fact a lot of our better talent from 02-05 born groups seem to be attacking talent. 

Fitzhugh is another attacking midfielder for context the more the merrier. 

Didn't Stephen Hunt go on Ryan Tubridy's show and laugh about how he was bullied when he went on national duty?

The lad is clearly eccentric but they could've showed more compassion to someone who was barely out of his teens.

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I'd be happy to see Stephen Ireland to continue his involvement in football into coaching and the like.

He was a single dad, still a teenager, talented but with the typical level of insecurities of most young people when he was ridiculed publicly by Hunt (and others?) in a way we would not tolerate now if someone did it on social media.

We missed out on him playing for us, and he had a very staccato playing career. Who of us wouldn't want another chance in life?

Who else could Evan Ferguson go to that we are not sure about him? Is he not Irish born and bred?

Yes once he’s homegrown we should be fine. 

Adaramola another good name to see on that list. Very highly rated at Palace and a left back. Stevens and McClean are in their 30s and unless Joel Bagan goes and declare for us like it’s been indicated Manning is the only other real option we have now in his 20s/late teens remotely playing men’s football at a decent level light in that position. A position we need players in going forward.

Maybe good idea to play that squad against the home based lads. 

Andrew Moran scored two goals. Does anyone have any idea of who played? Wondering if oxoflex got any minutes. 

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/648579/limerick-teenager-called-up-to-rep-of-ireland-u18-squad.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/648579/limerick-teenager-called-up-to-rep-of-ireland-u18-squad.html

Can't find a dedicated thread for the U18s.

Sam Curtis and Justin Ferizaj the standout names called up for a home-based training camp.

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-mohan-hosts-u19-training-camp-in-uk" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-mohan-hosts-u19-training-camp-in-uk

I think Cristiano Fitzgerald may be my new favourite ever Irish football player name. Even better than Anselmo Garcia McNulty

Nice to see lawal in the squad, won't be too long before he's in the u21s I would think.

When you reach season 20 on football manager. 

Surprised hes not with them now having been with them for the summer friendlies.

Suppose hes better off with the u19s playing than with the u21s and not.

Apart from Finn & Emakhu who else has some first team experience?

https://www.the42.ie/la-liga-youngster-included-in-ireland-u19s-squad-5564847-Oct2021/" rel="nofollow - https://www.the42.ie/la-liga-youngster-included-in-ireland-u19s-squad-5564847-Oct2021/

Abankwah at St. Pats.

Adedokun got games at Dundalk.

Kenny at Sligo Rovers.

Mullins at Bohs.

Harry Vaughan has played a good bit of first team football for Oldham and is an interesting selection. Cian Hayes has played in a cup game for Fleetwood. Finn Benoa the only other overseas based player with first team experience I think.

Didnt see a result anywhere

2 draws I believe 2-2 and 1-1

Andy Moran absent from the 21's suggests he'll be here to strengthen the attacking options.

Zak Gilsenan is out, likely until next season with a bad injury.

Other than that I'd expect a similar squad to what we saw last month for the two draws v Sweden.

A great bit of business and we need to see more of this, so the LoI clubs get proper payments for players instead of them walking on free-xfers.

Didn't see that re Kenny. Interesting. Just turned 18 in the summer and has 9 goals which is great. Signing a deal like is good on a few fronts. If someone really wants him, they will pay. I saw Celtic linked before which screams "punt". Furthermore, another season with Sligo getting games for them and Ireland (is he underage for the 19s for another while) is a great thing for a lad his age. And, finally, it might earn Sligo a few bob in the future which is a fantastic show of loyalty by the Kenny family accounting for the fact that his father played for them for years. 

I think Crawford already confirmed yesterday that Moran will be dropping down to the 19s

He actually has 10 goal in all comps, he was our only player to score in Europe this season.

He is in good form of late too with 3 goals and 1 assist in the last 6 matches. He has scored more goals this season than most of our big named experienced forward players combined. His goals has been dragging us into a Europe spot which is mad for somebody his age.

He is a very hard working, tough and determined player, cap that off with his natural ability, he won't be at Sligo Rovers for long. I think we will be luck to keep him for another season if he keeps going the way he is going.

Unfortunately his U-19 call up means he will be out of our away match with Derry (which is a big third place/european spot decider) he is going to be a massive loss.

I think there has to start being more thought given in the LOI during the International breaks. We are losing Kenny but look at Bohs and UCD, they have 2 players from each club in the current U-21s and they are both in the business end of their league fixtures with out important players.

It is great we are seeing more and more local talent emerging from LOI clubs and being including in the ROI under ages, it is going to be happening a lot more I think. But more planning with the fixtures and international windows, fixture congestion within the LOI needs to be done  from next season on.

It's a joke really.

Bohs play Rovers right after the 21's match ends next Friday and U'd think Tierney and Devoy would have started that league match if not with the 21's.
How hard is it to give the clubs a gap-week if they have players involved at International level?

Basic stuff.

You wouldn't know, as we have seen before our best players tend to leave the Under 21 squad ahead of time, not beyond possibility that Ferguson might be with the seniors by the time the next campaign comes around in a couple of years time.

Devoy Tierney & Lyons all missing the Rovers game. 

This is the last season it’s happening thankfully 

pateen wrote: So any squad announced?

Nada and they play on Wednesday!

Green Cockade wrote: I see Sean Roughan was back in the Lincoln City first team yesterday, though it seems to have been a second string selection they picked for an easy FA Cup tie. He has been injured for quite some time. Still only 18 and linked with both Chelsea and Southampton in recent times.

Yeah ok, I was wondering what had happened to this lad. I believe he was injured but has been out of the limelight since early May. Good to see him back again. Another well thought of young lad who hopefully can push on !

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu19-mohan-names-squad-for-euro-qualifiers" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/mu19-mohan-names-squad-for-euro-qualifiers

No sign of Finn Benoa though. I think he's fit - these are competitive games so maybe he's still non-committal. Cristiano Fitzgerald not there as well, or the lad from Leeds that was highly rated (Coleman?).

Isn't Coleman with the 18s?

Good to see Jack Henry-Francis in there.

He could be, I didn't see a squad announcement for them.

Edit - actually I see Leeds tweeted that he's with the 18s. That's good to see.

With so many U21 eligible players with the senior squad that we can still tell lads like Lawal Mcnulty Moran to drop back down is promising. It's a strong enough squad actually stronger then I thought it would be. Good to see Roughan back too!

Strong squad and John Finn a strange absense, unless he's with the 18's closer to home in Spain (is he underage for the 18's?).  Imagine Fitzgerald is with the 18's as he's certainly underage.
We'll find out soon enough I spose.

Both Finn Benoa and Fitzgerald were born in 2003 so should be overage for the under 18s who are the 2004 born group.