International Matches outside FIFA Calendar
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Topic: International Matches outside FIFA Calendar
Posted By: Frabhoy
Subject: International Matches outside FIFA Calendar
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:15am
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I thought this might be an interesting topic to put out there. The US mens national team played a friendly this week against El Salvador in Florida with a team mainly consisting of MLS based players. Interestingly the game was scheduled outside the fifa international calandar and was organised around the MLS season coming to a conclusion. The USMNT team won 6-0 and gave their coaching team the opportunity to debut and try out new players. It got me thinking, would organising friendlies outside the fifa schedule be something which the FAI and the current coaching team could look at.for instance after the end of the irish domestic season, a league of ireland 11 against a norweigan league 11 or a uefa team which has a similar domestic calendar. You may also get players from the premier league which are down the pecking order and need game time, if clubs were willing to release them for the friendlies. Let me know your thoughts đź’
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Posted By: 50%lesssugar&salt
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:40am
| In theory, it is a great idea for where we are at now. In practice, apart from other restricting factors, could the FAI afford to do it? |
Posted By: ProudAndLoud
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:57am
| UK clubs wouldn't release players. |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 8:34am
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Did the league of Ireland put together a team to play another country in the 90’s? I’m sure it happened but can’t find anything on Google. ------------- |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 9:12am
Think the point is it would only be for league of Ireland players
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ProudAndLoud wrote:Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 9:23am
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cant see this making economic sense for the fai ------------- AKA pedantic kunt |
Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 9:53am
| Only 1 or 2 would be anywhere near international standard and these sort of games wouldn't show it. A waste of time |
Posted By: Rustybedsprings
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 10:10am
| B team games |
Posted By: 50%lesssugar&salt
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 10:19am
Predominantly LOI players with a sprinkling of players that might be available for other reasons. Potentially players out of favour or even out of contract where their clubs may welcome them having a semi competitive run out. Possibly younger players who haven't made it into the first team squad could also be involved. While it may not produce many full internationals, it would certainly raise some players profiles and would certainly be of personal benefit to them. |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 10:53am
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The Scandinavian countries do this quite regularly in the winter months. I think its a brilliant idea. It would be brilliant experience for the likes Duffy, McEleny and McEneff. I think it would also be a brilliant for guys like Shields, who have been consistently the top performers in the league over a number of years. The only small stumbling block I can see would be the contractual obligation to play all senior internationals in the Aviva. These games likely wouldn't draw big crowds, but would be ideal for Turners Cross, Deacy Park etc. ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:05am
This definitely happened anyway April 30, 1980 Monumental Stadium, Buenos Aires, attendance 75,000 Argentina 1 League of Ireland 0 Scorer: Diego Armando Maradona One of his 34 goals for Argentina ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:08am
Most recently league of Ireland XI played in that Dublin super cup at the Aviva against Celtic, Man Utd and Man City but before that regularly played games against the Irish League, Welsh league and against the Scottish League. There's a few really interesting and u usuall ties played also in 1979 a LOI XI played against the Basque Country at the San Names stadium in Bilbao in front of 40,000. There's a good wiki page here on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Ireland_XI" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Ireland_XI ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: Donegalman
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:30am
| Think it would be a brilliant idea. Take jack Byrne for example if he stays at Shamrock Rovers he won’t have another game until February at least so can’t put himself in the shop window for the managers. For where we are at now it would be hugely beneficial as Byrne, McEneff, Burke all been involved with the seniors last win, Duffy would have apart from injury. Throw in Chris Shields and some of the younger talented it would be a very decent side. It would benefit the u21s more even. Take last campaign Grant, Mandriou, Leahy, McGinty, Lennon and Elbouzedi before his move to Lincoln all could be part of it too. Kenny did put together a home based u21 side for a few days training and match against the amateur side so it would be great to try it out. Just while we’re on the matter would anyone be against Chris Shields getting a cal up? He’s been outstanding the last few years for Dundalk and would be a great reward for him, I suppose only thing is we have McCarthy, Cullen, Arter and Molumby who play a similar type of role to him but what a great player |
Posted By: irelandfan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:32am
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Trap did get a real benefit from the B International against Nottingham Forrest in Dalymount. I'd say why not you could easily get a side from the Irish League to play a game in the Showgrounds for Instance. ------------- I'm the gaffer whatever I say goes. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:35am
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Did a load of people pull out of that game? ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:40am
I seem to recall the LOI put a team together to play a Scandinavian country or league in the 90’s Anybody remember this? ------------- |
Posted By: Jack City
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:59am
| https://www.the42.ie/ireland-4-1-england-turners-cross-b-international-2793874-May2016/" rel="nofollow - https://www.the42.ie/ireland-4-1-england-turners-cross-b-international-2793874-May2016/ Anyone remember this match. |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:25pm
I was at it, great occasion with some great players involved on both sides. Goals are on YouTube. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: ProudAndLoud
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:25pm
| Remember it well got soaked in Turners Cross. I could be mistaken but think that was a Tuesday afternoon and we played Senior team V England next day in Landsdowne. |
Posted By: ProudAndLoud
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:27pm
| Edit we played Wales next day. |
Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:46pm
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With 2021 being the Centenary of the FAI i thought they might when the fixture list was published announce a special Centenary match against an Argentina or Brazil etc to mark the event. I wonder pre Euro game next July will there be an international match outside of FIFA calendar. ------------- WWW.IRELANDSOCCERSHIRTS.COM |
Posted By: Jack City
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 12:53pm
| I was at it at as well Kevin, standing on the mudbank that was the St.Annes end.It was a great match, people were surprised we won so easily |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 1:50pm
There was no match programme as such for the B international put a page with the squads appeared in the programme for the Wales game. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 1:50pm
I was supposed too. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: Frabhoy
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:55pm
Thanks. I was actually at the Dublin Super Cup and seen a Man City team playing against a League of Ireland team. James McClean was actually in the squad if i can remember. But the stand out for the league team was Daniel Kearns. Think there was a couple of NI and other internationalists. I was thinking more of the lines of the actual international team set up with the current coachs but players which will be available after league of ireland finishes. The selection could be complimented by players which may be released from the UK. E.g Molumby, Connell, Elbouzedi, Kelleher, Obafemi. These are just examples and i know the majority of UK clubs wont allow players to be released but it could be for a mutal benefit. I referenced the USMNT but im aware of their unqiue circumstances. A stronger domestic league with a wide player pool but also a strong compliment of European based players such as McKennie, Pulisic, Weah.
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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 10:33am
The only occasion to mark the centenary with is a re-brand of the Association, not a pointless friendly to remind us how great the Association has been run throughout that time that they needed a bailout from the government in as recently as 2020... On topic - can’t see there being appetite for this from any stakeholder bar the odd player who would be glad of a cap to show their grandkids. The international calendar is already saturated with unattractive friendlies that are a hard sell for fans without a further dilution.
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 10:44am
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What I would like to see is Ireland get an invitation to the copa America. We would stink the place out in terms of football but we would bring 10K+ to the tournament and would help ticket sales/local economy etc ------------- |
Posted By: VanBosch
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:08pm
Big time - would be class. Similar to Euro 2012, we’d lose every game but would have great craic.
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Posted By: wicklowrunner
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:31pm
1989 Libya 1 v 1 LOI (Bohs/Pats)
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Posted By: Frabhoy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:39pm
That would be class. See Qatar and Australia are invited to the tournament this year - so not improbable. I wonder if they would be slightly opposed to a european team being invited.
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Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 1:05pm
You don't just wipe away 100 years of on field history and not acknowledge it. That's 100 years of clubs, players, tournaments and dare I mention it Irish fans also and their memories. For what it's worth I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Centenary fixture but that's only my opinion. If discussing an international match outside of a FIFA calendar in a thread titled "International matches outside FIFA calendar" is off topic then I've no idea what bringing in the bailout and rebranding of association has to do with the topic. ------------- WWW.IRELANDSOCCERSHIRTS.COM |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 11:50am
Link to the game is Bilbao here. https://aboutbasquecountry.eus/en/2017/08/25/august-1979-basque-country-ireland-a-match-that-will-not-soon-be-forgotten-by-the-irish-players/" rel="nofollow - https://aboutbasquecountry.eus/en/2017/08/25/august-1979-basque-country-ireland-a-match-that-will-not-soon-be-forgotten-by-the-irish-players/ And match ticket here https://i0.wp.com/aboutbasquecountry.eus/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/entrada-partido-euskadi-irlanda-1979.jpg?ssl=1" rel="nofollow - https://i0.wp.com/aboutbasquecountry.eus/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/entrada-partido-euskadi-irlanda-1979.jpg?ssl=1
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 3:49pm
Maybe ye could celebrate the FAI's 100 years* with another game against Basque opposition? 16th December 2020 Basque breakaway bid looks for UEFA and FIFA recognitionThe Basque Football Federation has applied to FIFA and UEFA to be officially recognised so the regional team can compete in international competition. A delegation travelled to FIFA’s headquarters in Zurich and UEFA’s base in Nyon on Tuesday to register the application for full membership. A statement on the Basque federation website said it was making the application on behalf of its members following a vote in a 2018 general assembly and that the request represented “the majority desire of Basque society”. Federation lawyer David Salinas-Armendariz said joining UEFA and FIFA was “a legitimate and absolutely viable objective from a legal point of view” adding that European territories that were not independent states had been recognised by the two organisations before. https://httpwww.insideworldfootball.com/2020/12/16/basque-breakaway-bid-looks-uefa-fifa-recognition/" rel="nofollow - https://httpwww.insideworldfootball.com/2020/12/16/basque-breakaway-bid-looks-uefa-fifa-recognition/ (There's a joke there somewhere about "Too many Basques in one exit", but I couldn't be bothered, you'll just have to figure it out yourselves.) * - Be quick, while the FAI still exists... |
