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Topic: EIRE Anomalies
Posted By: Trap junior
Subject: EIRE Anomalies
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:10pm
Have The EIRE ever come back from a  2 goal deficit in (i) Their history (ii) the last 35-40 years
to draw 2-2 or win?




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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Have The EIRE ever come back from a  2 goal deficit in (i) Their history (ii) the last 35-40 years
to draw 2-2 or win?


 
Not sure but we've done the opposite a few times - i.e led 2-0 and ended up drawing 2-2. Against the Dutch in WC 2002 qualifying and Israel in WC 2006 qualifying both immediately spring to mind.


Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Have The EIRE ever come back from a  2 goal deficit in (i) Their history (ii) the last 35-40 years
to draw 2-2 or win?

Pedantry Alert!

If it has never happened, or only very rarely, then it is not an "anomaly", rather it is the norm:

Anomaly

  • noun: Deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.


Posted By: Deco79
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:33pm
Closest I remember was the Russia game in 2010 where we were 0-3 down at home and got it back to 2-3 in a funny game! 


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Have The EIRE ever come back from a  2 goal deficit in (i) Their history (ii) the last 35-40 years
to draw 2-2 or win?

Pedantry Alert!

If it has never happened, or only very rarely, then it is not an "anomaly", rather it is the norm:

Anomaly

  • noun: Deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.


Its normal for international teams to at some stage int heir history to have come back from 2 goals down at some stage.  I'm sure even the likes of Slovenia or Estonia have come back from 2-0 down at least once.

Another anomaly is we extremely rarely go 2-0 up on teams of any decent standard and if we win its 1-0.  Holland 2000, Turkey 1991, Poland 1991?  (can't remember if we went 2-0 up in that 3-3 draw).  We can beat minnows like Tuaisceart Eireann 3-0 or 4-0 but that doesn't count as it has to be decent opposition at the time.


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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 2:48pm
Apart from the 7-0 win against Gibraltar in 2014, I am convinced that our upper limit in terms of goals scored is 5. Since the Charlton era, it was the upper limit, even against some really woeful teams (1990s Lichtenstein, San Marino), and that we almost stepped down once we hit five.


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 3:12pm
This is the best list I can come up with. There may be other games if any one can think of them.


1928 v Belgium, 2-0 down, won 4-2

1934 v Belgium, 2-0 and 3-1 down, drew 4-4

1937 v Norway, 3-1 down, drew 3-3

1950 v Norway, 2-0 down, drew 2-2

1958, v Poland, 2-0 down, drew 2-2

1959, v Sweden, 2-0 down, won 3-2, Johnny Giles with a wonder goal on his debut to start the comeback

1964, v Poland, 2-0 down, won 3-2

1968, v Poland, 2-0 down, drew 2-2

1968, v Austria, 2-0 down, drew 2-2

1979, v USA, 2-0 down, won 3-2, three goals in four minutes

1982, v Spain, 3-1 down, drew 3-3

2000, v Mexico, 2-0 down, drew 2-2



special mentions:

1934, v Hungary, 2-0 down, lost 4-2 after getting it back to 2-2

1973, All-Ireland XI v Brazil, 4-1 down, lost 4-3

2010, v Russia, 3-0 down, lost 3-2



games when a 2 goal lead was lost:

v West Germany, 1951, won 3-2

v Turkey, 1976, drew 3-3

v Denmark, 1978, drew 3-3

v Holland, 1983, lost 3-2

v Poland, 1991, drew 3-3

v Hungary, 1993, lost 4-2, (David O'Leary Testimonial) Ireland 2-0 up after four minutes!

v Malta, 1999, won 3-2

v Holland, 2000, drew 2-2

v Israel, 2005, drew 2-2


Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 3:15pm
In terms of playing style, 18th November 2009 was certainly an anomaly.

The match finishing 1-1 on the night, was not.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

In terms of playing style, 18th November 2009 was certainly an anomaly.

The match finishing 1-1 on the night, was not.

11 years agoShocked


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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Apart from the 7-0 win against Gibraltar in 2014, I am convinced that our upper limit in terms of goals scored is 5. Since the Charlton era, it was the upper limit, even against some really woeful teams (1990s Lichtenstein, San Marino), and that we almost stepped down once we hit five.
We beat Malta 8-0 in 1983, it was a dead rubber

Malta then lost 12-1 to Spain the next month, eliminating Holland - it was 3-1 at half time and Spain needed the 11 goal margin


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Posted By: avfc
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Apart from the 7-0 win against Gibraltar in 2014, I am convinced that our upper limit in terms of goals scored is 5. Since the Charlton era, it was the upper limit, even against some really woeful teams (1990s Lichtenstein, San Marino), and that we almost stepped down once we hit five.
We beat Malta 8-0 in 1983, it was a dead rubber

Malta then lost 12-1 to Spain the next month, eliminating Holland - it was 3-1 at half time and Spain needed the 11 goal margin

Gobraltar were especially bad in their early days. They've improved alot. 


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2020 at 4:26pm
The win over Gibraltar was strange because we were 7-0 up early in the second half of that game, and didn't score any more goals. Two more and we would have broken our record score.

And the 8-0 over Malta was a high point. It took us another 15 or 16 games to score 8 more goals.


Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2020 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

The win over Gibraltar was strange because we were 7-0 up early in the second half of that game, and didn't score any more goals. Two more and we would have broken our record score.

And the 8-0 over Malta was a high point. It took us another 15 or 16 games to score 8 more goals.
 
That was because they replaced the sheet of paper they had in nets with a human.


Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2020 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

The win over Gibraltar was strange because we were 7-0 up early in the second half of that game, and didn't score any more goals. Two more and we would have broken our record score.

And the 8-0 over Malta was a high point. It took us another 15 or 16 games to score 8 more goals.
 
That was because they replaced the sheet of paper they had in nets with a human.

And we had a proper striker who scored a HT within 20 mins
Hoolahan was very good that day too.

They both went off around 60 mins and we didn’t score again.



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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2020 at 7:43pm
Yeah Spain in 82 came to mind.

Kevin O’Callaghan had a stormer if I remember correctly and was rewarded with a part in Escape to Victory as the goalkeeper.


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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 3:36pm
Didn't they break his arm in order to let Stallone play in goal?

Proof that it was proper football back then, when players made any and every sacrifice for the jersey. No millionaires, just honest pros, like Pele, liberating France with an overhead kick.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

Didn't they break his arm in order to let Stallone play in goal?

Proof that it was proper football back then, when players made any and every sacrifice for the jersey. No millionaires, just honest pros, like Pele, liberating France with an overhead kick.


It's a little known fact that they actually broke his arm during filming to make it more realistic.


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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 4:04pm
A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)



And our biggest defeats:
  
7-0, v Brazil (1982)
7-1, v Czechoslovakia (1961)
6-0, v Poland (1938)
6-0, v Spain (1952)
6-0, v Austria (1952)
6-0, v Austria (1971)
6-1, v Germany (2012)
5-0, v Spain (1931)
5-1, v Belgium (1950)
5-1, v England (1957)
5-1, v Spain (1964)
5-1, v Portugal (2014)
5-1, v Denmark (2017)
4-0, v Czechoslovakia (1959), Imrich Stacho, the Czechoslovak goalkeeper, scored the first goal
4-0, v West Germany (1966)
4-0, v Hungary (1969)
4-0, v Holland (2006)
4-0, v Spain (2012)
5-2, v Holland (1934)
5-2, v Cyprus (2006)
     


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

 
It's a little known fact that they actually broke his arm during filming to make it more realistic.


Why did they even need to break his arm. Couldn't they have got him to fake a hamstring injury or something?!


Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 5:55pm
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 8:13pm
What was the story with the Czeh goalie scoring the opener?


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2020 at 3:00pm
From Ireland On the Ball

"Paulovic chased a ball which appeared to be going out. Stopping it right on the line, he sent a looping cross over Hurley's head for Bubernik to head past O'Neill, but O'Farrell stopped it from crossing the line with his hands, and a penalty was given.

The Czech goalkeeper, Stacho, came upfield and scored from the spot-kick."


He's still the only goalie to have scored against Ireland.


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2022 at 11:05pm
UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(a)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(h)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)
      
      4-0, v Qatar (2021)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Bolivia (1996)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)

           4-1, v Andorra (2021)
           3-0, v Azerbaijan (2021)
           3-0, v Luxembourg (2021)
           3-0, v Scotland (2022)


Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2022 at 11:15pm
Turkey must have fairly improved in the years between 1990 and 1998.

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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2022 at 9:53pm
Turkey back then were a neat passing team, but brittle.

I guess Galatasaray doing well in European competitions, throughout the 90s, helped improve their overall fortunes.


Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2022 at 10:06pm
I’m fairly certain Turkey drew 0-0 with San Marino in the ‘94 WC qualifiers in England’s group. They were awful away from home back then but tough to beat in Turkey. Qualified for Euro ‘96 and have usually been decent since.

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Posted By: Given's zimmerframe
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2022 at 12:40am
We must have some sort of record for going 1-0 up at the start of a game, hang on until the last minute, then concede. I remember this happening often around the clinton morrison times and obviously more recently with portugal


Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2022 at 1:01am
I have a memory of us going 1-0 up in a game and winning....the legend on my leg says Stuttgart  12 June 1988..

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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2022 at 11:04pm
UPDATED

games when a 2 goal lead was lost:

v West Germany, 1951, won 3-2

v Turkey, 1976, drew 3-3

v Denmark, 1978, drew 3-3

v Holland, 1983, lost 3-2

v Poland, 1991, drew 3-3

v Hungary, 1993, lost 4-2, (David O'Leary Testimonial) Ireland 2-0 up after four minutes!

v Malta, 1999, won 3-2

v Holland, 2000, drew 2-2

v Israel, 2005, drew 2-2

v Armenia, 2022, won 3-2


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2023 at 10:16pm
UPDATED

games when a 2 goal lead was lost:

v Spain, 1947, won 3-2

v West Germany, 1951, won 3-2

v Turkey, 1976, drew 3-3

v Denmark, 1978, drew 3-3

v Holland, 1983, lost 3-2

v Poland, 1991, drew 3-3

v Hungary, 1993, lost 4-2, (David O'Leary Testimonial) Ireland 2-0 up after four minutes!

v Malta, 1999, won 3-2

v Holland, 2000, drew 2-2

v Croatia, 2001, drew 2-2

v Israel, 2005, drew 2-2

v Armenia, 2022, won 3-2

v Latvia, 2023, won 3-2


Posted By: dangere_here
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2023 at 10:43pm
Think you forgot Poland away for Euro 92, 3-1 up finished 3-3




Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2023 at 10:28pm
UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(a)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(h)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)
      4-0, v Qatar (2021)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Bolivia (1996)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Denmark (2002)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           3-0, v Wales (2011)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)
           4-1, v Andorra (2021)
           3-0, v Azerbaijan (2021)
           3-0, v Luxembourg (2021)
           3-0, v Scotland (2022)

           3-0, v Gibraltar (2023)


Posted By: John Nice
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2023 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(a)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(h)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)
      4-0, v Qatar (2021)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Bolivia (1996)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)
           4-1, v Andorra (2021)
           3-0, v Azerbaijan (2021)
           3-0, v Luxembourg (2021)
           3-0, v Scotland (2022)

           3-0, v Gibraltar (2023)

Couldnt resist Smile 6 of them under Kenny


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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 3:25pm
More possession means more shots, more possibilities of getting set-pieces etc.

For all of Kenny's faults, he has demonstrated that we don't have to be so one dimensional in our approach.


Posted By: SeaSharp
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

More possession means more shots, more possibilities of getting set-pieces etc.

For all of Kenny's faults, he has demonstrated that we don't have to be so one dimensional in our approach.
For me he's demonstrated the exact opposite. The distinct lack of positive results against non-minnows has shown that our previous pragmatism was more effective.


Posted By: Banana_RepublicFC
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(a)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(h)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)
      4-0, v Qatar (2021)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Bolivia (1996)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)
           4-1, v Andorra (2021)
           3-0, v Azerbaijan (2021)
           3-0, v Luxembourg (2021)
           3-0, v Scotland (2022)

           3-0, v Gibraltar (2023)

#CR7 

You just had to be there. 


Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

More possession means more shots, more possibilities of getting set-pieces etc.

For all of Kenny's faults, he has demonstrated that we don't have to be so one dimensional in our approach.

Not if you're just knocking the ball back and over aimlessly in your own half it doesn't. I'd say we've actually been fairly one dimensional for the last 9 months or so.  We're not automatically knocking it long but we're not doing much else of interest with it either. 

Take last night as an example even - the goals came from two crosses and a free kick. Against Greece it was another set piece. When it comes to scoring the few goals we score we're just scoring the same ones we always did, just that we've sacrificed our defensive solidity in the process, so our results are worse than ever.


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

More possession means more shots, more possibilities of getting set-pieces etc.

For all of Kenny's faults, he has demonstrated that we don't have to be so one dimensional in our approach.
For me he's demonstrated the exact opposite. The distinct lack of positive results against non-minnows has shown that our previous pragmatism was more effective.


Kenny has the worst selection of Irish players in decades, but they play a better brand of football that can be effective. 

I'd put down the lack of positive results to his tactical and organisational limitations, rather than an aversion to pragmatism.


Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.

<results snipped out>

Couldnt resist Smile 6 of them under Kenny

And under the other managers
Giles(4)
Hand(4)
Charlton(12)
McCarthy(12)
Kerr(2)
Staunton(3)
Trapattoni(8)
O'Neill(5)
Kenny(6)

Terzino, you're missing a 3-0 win against Denmark in March 2002 under McCarthy, and the 3-0 win against Wales in February 2011 under Trapattoni


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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 8:41pm
Thanks for that. I have updated the list.

For some reason, the screamer that Robbie scored against Denmark, in 2002, I had thought that he had scored that goal against Sweden in 2006, in one of Staunton's first games.

Turns out it was Liam Miller who smashed one in from distance in that game.


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2023 at 10:04pm
I think this stat fits this thread:


away wins in qualifying games, 1934-1985 = 6

away wins in qualifying games, 1987-1993 = 7


Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 2:42pm
UPDATED:

A comprehensive list of Ireland's biggest wins.


8 goal winning margin: 

       8-0, v Malta (1983)


7 goal winning margin: 

       7-0, v Gibraltar (2014)


6 goal winning margin: 

       6-0, v Cyprus (1980)


5 goal winning margin:

       5-0, v Israel (1987)
       5-0, v Turkey (1990)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1996)
       5-0, v Liechtenstein (1997)
       5-0, v Malta (1998)
       5-0, v San Marino (2006)
       5-0, v Northern Ireland (2011)


4 goal winning margin:
 
      4-0, v Belgium (1929)
      5-1, v Luxembourg (1936)
      4-0, v Switzerland (1938)
      4-0, v Austria (1953)
      4-0, v Luxembourg (1953)
      4-0, v Turkey (1975)
      4-0, v Tunisia (1988)
      4-0, v Latvia (1992)
      4-0, v Liechtenstein (1994) 
      4-0, v Northern Ireland (1995)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(a)
      4-0, v Cyprus (2001)(h)
      4-0, v Denmark (2007)
      4-0, v Estonia (2011)
      4-0, v Georgia (2013)
      4-0, v Gibraltar (2015)
      4-0, v Oman (2016)
      4-0, v Qatar (2021)

      4-0, v Gibraltar (2023)


3 goal winning margin:

           5-2, v Germany (1936)  
           3-0, v Finland (1949)
           4-1, v Holland (1956)
           3-0, v West Germany (1956)
           4-1, v Norway (1964)
           3-0, v USSR (1974)
           3-0, v Norway (1976) 
           3-0, v Bulgaria (1979) 
           3-0, v Iceland (1983)
           3-0, v Switzerland (1985)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1989)
           3-0, v Malta (1990)
           3-0, v Wales (1991)
           4-1, v USA (1992)
           3-0, v Northern Ireland (1993)
           3-0, v Latvia (1994)
           3-0, v Bolivia (1996)
           3-0, v Macedonia (1996)
           3-0, v Finland (2000)
           3-0, v Andorra (2001)
           3-0, v Denmark (2002)
           3-0, v Saudi Arabia (2002)
           3-0, v Finland (2002)
           3-0, v Canada (2003)
           3-0, v Cyprus (2004)
           3-0, v Sweden (2006)
           3-0, v Algeria (2010)
           3-0, v Wales (2011)
           4-1, v Oman (2012)
           4-1, v Faroe Isles (2012)
           3-0, v Faroe Isles (2013)
           3-0, v Latvia (2013)
           4-1, v USA (2014)
           4-1, v Andorra (2021)
           3-0, v Azerbaijan (2021)
           3-0, v Luxembourg (2021)
           3-0, v Scotland (2022)
           3-0, v Gibraltar (2023)



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