Ireland v Bulgaria - Nations League - Wed 18th Nov
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Topic: Ireland v Bulgaria - Nations League - Wed 18th Nov
Posted By: ConorMac77
Subject: Ireland v Bulgaria - Nations League - Wed 18th Nov
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 6:58pm
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As John Lennon didn't quite sing: All we are say-ing...is give us a goal...  ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:07pm
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This is actually an important game for Kenny. Anything scoreless is bad. A scoreless defeat will create almost irreparable damage for him. He has to be courageous in his team selection, and potentially drop some players who he would consider integral. This is about creating a team which fits a strategy, rather than vice-versa. As such, it might be time to look at Jack Byrne in the Wes role. Luton Town were recently in the non-league setup, they are not now, and are in the Championship. if Collins can be adapted to a system, why cant he score goals? The midfield may be missing their obvious holding option in McCarthy, but can we persist with Hendrick and Hourihane? What has that achieved over seven games? James McClean once was our top scorer in a qualifying campaign, didn't Robbie Keane get dropped during the Euro 2016 campaign? Is it worth going back to the Robbie Brady well? Yes, we are seeing a bit from Molumby etc, but this is losing relevance as we are no losing games in which we are not under serious pressure. I cant help but be concerned.
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Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:15pm
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Really looking forward to this game! Hopefully Knight and Byrne start. I would be tempted to call up Ronan and Parrott from the under 21s.
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Posted By: Green Man
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:16pm
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Collins looked lively has to start, Jack Byrne too. Still reckon the 433 is killing us, needs to put 2 up front or we'll struggle to score we have very few players in the box when attacking.
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Posted By: Adobolo
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:19pm
100% agree, I like what Stephen is trying to do and we are playing well but not creating, our strikers have to come deeper and deeper. Or wingers are not creating anything and not getting in the box. We need to move to 3-5-2 put Doherty as the right wing back mclean/Manning on the left and play two strikers.
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Green Man wrote:Posted By: grannyrule
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:21pm
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I predict1-0 win for Bulgaria with us offering absolutely nothing. ------------- The only way is up |
Posted By: Left foot
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:23pm
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You could play a front 2 in a 352 or a 433 with 3 up front but if those players are Horgan, Idah and mcclean it really won't make a difference. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:24pm
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If we cant beat Bulgaria its a joke. They are one of the worst teams we could ever hope to face ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:24pm
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Cullen-Knight-Hourihane will start on Tuesday....Byrne won't be picked now ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: ripbomb
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:24pm
| Parrott should start now u21s have nothing left to play for |
Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:26pm
STOICHKOV Jr is saying the same thing on a bulgarian forum.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:27pm
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Glad this is the last game of 2020. I really relished these fixtures but utterly fed up now with the year. Pray that we sign off a poxy year with a result. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:28pm
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:29pm
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The Bulgarians will be confident of nicking something in Dublin. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:29pm
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Probably a load of wallets in the home dressing room. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:30pm
+1 ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:34pm
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If we go with the same "approach" we will get the same outcome. Another disjointed mess. Maybe he learns how to set up a football team in the next few days but I doubt it. Lets persist with a 4-3-3 and our tactics which clearly dont amount to anything more than pass the ball, and players completely unsuited to doing even that basic demand.
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Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:47pm
Classy.
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Posted By: ripbomb
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 7:55pm
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Posted By: nordlingen
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:03pm
| Jack Byrne should start on Wed...he deserves more than ten minutes n has the skill n vision to unlock a defence....had a few nice touches tonight especially the through ball to Collins.....ok his pass to Knight wasn't inch perfect but the red might be a blessing in disguise..... |
Posted By: Paulie
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:07pm
I remember the Scots singing that or something similar at Euro '92 during their final group game against Russia (I think). Scotland won that game handy as far as I remember so I'm taking that as an omen. All credit to clutching at straws. |
Posted By: Dots1982
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:08pm
Ladies and gentlemen, stand back, we have a new saviour.
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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:09pm
| No harm in giving him a chance. |
Posted By: Dots1982
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:10pm
In and around the box as a number 10. We don’t need him around any place deeper.
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Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:15pm
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Kenny needs to win this but can he do something with the team that looks all set to fail . Still think we will win 1-0 and a OG to boot . ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:32pm
They have actually scored 2 goals!! It’s a must win game now - Kenny really needs it. ------------- |
Posted By: daithi
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:53pm
------------- Just because it's tradition does not make it right |
Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:57pm
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Randolph Doherty Long Duffy O'Shea Brady Cullen Byrne Horgan Collins O'Dowda Maybe this team for Wed night to start. He may stick with Idah and start Hourihane but id go with Byrne for more creativity.
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Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:20pm
Byrne should be started, and Collins is worth another look. O Dowda and Hourihane are poison but he’ll probably start both.  ------------- 
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Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:23pm
| Eh how can you say O'Dowda is poison? He didnt even play hardly tonight. Hes been on of our best perforners when he does. Are you mixing him up with someone else? Eh |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:27pm
Poison, no. Flatters to deceive, yes. He looks like the type of player capable of weaving magic but is really ordinary. I can't put my finger on it but he strikes me as somebody that looks good at football, has some qualities but in actual fact is fairly mediocre. It's a weird one. Another lad that doesnt have a natural position. Not quick enough to be a winger and not enough craft to be an out and out forward. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:43pm
| Josh cullen and byrne should start, Molumby and Hendrick are suspended and hopefully Kenny's not stupid enough to start hourihane. What a sh*t day results wise losing the under21 and now tonight. Probably deserved more in both games |
Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:45pm
| I just cant see anything in horgan and o dowda that worth their inclusion in the starting 11. The system with the three up front hasn't worked at all really. |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:51pm
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Hopefully we see Travers start this game - he has a better chance of ending this season as Bournemouth's number 1 than Randolph has at West Ham. I'd like to see Connor Ronan given a chance, along with Troy Parrott. Would love to see something like this: Travers Doherty O'Shea Long Manning Byrne Cullen Ronan Parrott Idah Brady |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:53pm
Kenny wont want to play a much different side to the one tonight. I reckon, injury aside, the back 5 will stay the same thats for sure. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:55pm
He will have to make atleast two changes as Hourihane and Hendrick are suspended. Probably add in one or two injury pull outs and a random case of Covid too.
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Posted By: Liam Green
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 9:56pm
Is there a feeling that Parrott might get called up for this now
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:06pm
I reckon there is - 21s have nothing to play for and Parrott has been named in previous Kenny squads.
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Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:14pm
He was f**king brutal vs. England, and has never offered us much. -------------
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Posted By: RKeane
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:29pm
He's not good enough for this level. ------------- YESSSS! IT'S THERE |
Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:57pm
| Maybe obafemi and parrot be called up and we have front 3 of parrott, idah and obafemi😀 |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:01pm
| I'd say there's a good chance Obafemi won't win another senior cap in his life. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:03pm
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We should beat Bulgaria even with all our suspensions/injuries but they haven't lost by anymore than 2 goals in any of the previous games so they're not going to be total pushovers either. They will definitely feel we're there for the taking on Wednesday night. The fact Wales needed a 94th minute winner against them at home shows that they're not going to lay down to us. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:04pm
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Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:09pm
You could be right
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Posted By: ripbomb
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:16pm
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Posted By: GaretFarellysNutSack
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:21pm
Who in our squad is good enough for this level?
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Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:24pm
What exactly is the level for international football? Part timers play international football, it’s one of the worst statements that gets thrown around during every International break.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:32pm
| Agree, it’s a level that Josh Magennis and Kyle Lafferty do well at ffs |
Posted By: Mr. Snrub
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:38pm
------------- "Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!" |
Posted By: Green Man
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:48pm
| Obafemi was rubbish for the U21s again today why is he mentioned at all, seriously clutching at straws |
Posted By: Green Man
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:50pm
| O'Dowda offers absolutely nothing, passenger |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:01am
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I'd go with Randolph Doherty--Duffy--Long--Oshea Byrne--Brady--Molumby O'Dowda--Collins--McClean |
Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:02am
You’ve a point there but regardless O’ Dowda has been piss for us. -------------
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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:04am
I hope he does but realistically they only capped him out of pure panic after losing Grealish and then Rice.
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Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 11:47am
Molumby is suspended.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 11:55am
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Yeah only seen that after. Hourihane then maybe. I wonder could he be tempted to play Doherty in Midfield? We have a lack of defensive/ball winners now with McCarthy, Arter, Cullen, Molumby out |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:01pm
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I can see Kenny making some more changes. Would like to see something like this - Kellegher Doherty--Long--Oshea--Manning Byrne--Cullen--Brady Knight--Curtis--O'Dowda I'd also promote Ronan, Coventry and Parrott from the u21's. Edit - swapped out Cullen for Hourihane. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: sausy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:04pm
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the game is still 2 days away and with the luck Kenny has had with Covid tests, injuries and withdrawals for personal reasons there could still be a few squad changes before kick off!! ------------- Bimbos Burgers - "Official Sponsor of the Irish Squad" |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:04pm
| Is Cullen in? I thought he was out. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:08pm
And now he's going to shake it all about. You do the hokie cokie and you turn around thats what its all about ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:29pm
I thought he was in the squad but just didn't make the matchday 23 yesterday, so I believe he can be picked for Wednesday. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:46pm
Doherty and McClean out with COVID  ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:49pm
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On the plus side for Kenny, every player will have got and recovered from Covid by the time the World Cup qualifiers start ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: wanderer
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:50pm
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The squad just got a little lighter again, it'll be interesting to see who starts now. Kenny can't catch a break
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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:52pm
Cos re-infection isn’t a thing now ? ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: Adobolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:54pm
| How is this even possible? If they are in the bubble as its called then where are they catching it from? Also why so many Irish players catch it yet no English or other nations, is it the Hse stringent testing that's turning up a load of False Positives? |
Posted By: sausy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:54pm
Called it less than 2 hours ago  But seriously . ------------- Bimbos Burgers - "Official Sponsor of the Irish Squad" |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:57pm
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That'll be Christie and O'Dowda in from the start of Wednesday 😐 ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: DalyerRegular
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:57pm
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By God That's 12 gone from the original 25 man squad
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Posted By: belt
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:59pm
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God Cyrus might find his way back in at right back. Does Kenny call up a right back or left back now? O'Connor from u'21s? Greg Cunningham? Derrick Williams is probably in line actually, is he available? Johnny Hayes deserves another shot at this stage, far more effective than O'Dowda.
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:00pm
Reckon there's something amiss with the HSE testing alright. |
Posted By: Rustybedsprings
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:01pm
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Hayes is a good shout for a call up, can play right full, cyrus is bang out of form |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:02pm
They are infecting each other within the bubble. It’s a highly infectious virus. I pay no attention to this “no close contacts” spiel when one player is positive. Because they are all training, attending team meetings and meals, etc. And it takes a few days after coming into contact before the person will have a positive test. So there may be others before Bulgaria (if another test is done) or more probably after Bulgaria game. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:03pm
What? When has Hayes ever played right back?
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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:05pm
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I would play O’Shea RB and Robbie Brady LB. I’m sure that will be criticised but it’s better than Christie being RB. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:07pm
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Or bring Lee O'Connor up from the u21's. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:09pm
Yeah that’s even better ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:11pm
Thats way we should go. Or give Ryan Manning a run at LB. Nothing to lose ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:13pm
except the game ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: johnvonp
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:17pm
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Look at the team (excluding goalkeeper) that we can make from missing players: Coleman Doherty Egan Stevens Hendrick Browne Molumby Robinson Connolly McClean -- .. as well as Arter and McGoldrick (retired)
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:21pm
McClean has got a particularly virulent dose: Covid-1916
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Posted By: Left foot
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:25pm
I'd have the unavailable mccarthy in for the unavailable Browne and the unavailable mcgoldrick in for the unavailable mcclean but otherwise a good unavailable team.
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:28pm
Yep, it's not just ROI, eg: "Tottenham Hotspur forward Son Heung-min has been confined to his room
when not training after six of his South Korea team-mates tested
positive for Covid-19 on international duty in Austria, officials have
said. Although Son, 28, tested negative, he and the rest of the squad have been told to stay in their hotel rooms in Vienna, unless they are training." https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/1116/1178402-son-isolating-amid-covid-outbreak-in-south-korea-squad/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/1116/1178402-son-isolating-amid-covid-outbreak-in-south-korea-squad/ Norway were even more unlucky (one player positive): "The Norwegian players were on their way to the airport on Saturday to catch a chartered flight to Bucharest when authorities told them that such a journey would breach the country's stringent coronavirus measures because a player in the squad had tested positive." https://httwww.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/international-football-norway-coronavirus-nations-league-b1723306.html" rel="nofollow - https://httwww.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/international-football-norway-coronavirus-nations-league-b1723306.html |
Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:38pm
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Goodness will we have any subs on the bench ? ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:56pm
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Suspensions, injury, retirements, illness. All bad things in and of themselves, but at this point, its out of control. Perhaps a product of the amount of football being played in order to catch up, but its not good for the players. Interestingly though, there are enough players to go "cautious", and I think it would be a mistake. This presents an opportunity to test players.
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Posted By: johnvonp
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:15pm
Ah yes, new team below: Bazunu Coleman Doherty Egan Stevens Hendrick McCarthy Molumby Robinson Connolly McClean -- Shane Long, Browne and Arter on the bench. |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:19pm
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McEneff, Burke, Taylor and Parrott all called up. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: cildaratown
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:21pm
| could obafemi not get a call up? |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:21pm
Actually happy with those call ups! Parrot will probably the only ones to get game time ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:23pm
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Says Idah out through injury with Hendrick and Molumby suspended. The FAI are looking for anyone under 30 who owns a pair of football boots. Prior experience not required. Training to be given on site. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:23pm
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Bulgaria were terrible when they played here recently. Kenny has to win this game and get some goals
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:23pm
I've been very impressed with McEneff when I've watched Shamrock Rovers play (fairly regularly at that) He might not grab the headlines that Byrne does, but I'm sure in Bradley's eyes he's as key to the team as Byrne is. I reckon he could definitely play at a higher level if he pushed for it. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:39pm
Ya decent players. Burke can defo put the ball in the net anyway. But again Doherty and james out with Covid. Like come on Kenny is jinxed at this point it seems. Every day he wakes up he must think oh FCUUKKKKKKKK. its laughable at this stage.
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Posted By: Scotland83
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:43pm
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would you not call up sammon? He has played with you before and is in great form up here |
Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:43pm
| who is this Taylor guy? never heard of him. anyone know anything about him? |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:48pm
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Jack Taylor from the u21's ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:48pm
tidy centre midfielder |
Posted By: DalyerRegular
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 3:52pm
| Kieran Sadlier worth a look?? |
Posted By: VanBosch
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 4:08pm
| dont know this McEneff lad at all - what kind of player is he? What role would he fill in Kenny’s system if he started on Wednesday (not saying that’s likely) - just curious to see how he could fit in. |