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Topic: Jonathan Hill appointed FAI CEO
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Subject: Jonathan Hill appointed FAI CEO
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:02pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913



Ex English FA Commercial Director 


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn



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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:12pm
Are they 100% sure this isn't JD after plastic surgery in the UK?


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Well the Germans beat them 13-0 and the Czechs beat them 7-0 so that suggests they are tightening things up at the back



Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:42pm
Jonathan Hill sounds very like Jonathan Hall.....


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Are they 100% sure this isn't JD after plastic surgery in the UK?






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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Slow & Blind
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913



Ex English FA Commercial Director 
The paragraphs about driving revenue and sports companies he worked for previously aren't really relevant. 
He's the new chief executive! We need to know what his girlfriend looks like, who his father was, can he sing Republican ballads badly and most importantly, can he get me tickets.


Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by Slow & Blind Slow & Blind wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-to-unveil-former-fa-commercial-director-jonathan-hill-as-new-chief-executive-1.4357913



Ex English FA Commercial Director 
The paragraphs about driving revenue and sports companies he worked for previously aren't really relevant. 
He's the new chief executive! We need to know what his girlfriend looks like, who his father was, can he sing Republican ballads badly and most importantly, can he get me tickets.

Fastest finger getting an injunction.


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Posted By: cliffrichard
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 3:08pm
Yeah, good luck to him dealing with the Football Family. 



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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 7:02pm
I have got my Tennis balls ready.




Posted By: Dots1982
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 7:27pm
wonder what is the salary? 200k with large bonuses for commercial successes?


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 7:30pm
yeah approx 207,000 per year or a 40% cut on the previous permanent ceo :) 

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2020 at 7:43pm
Am I right in thinking that Barrett will be the public face of the association as opposed to Hill. A la the English FA where it's the chairman who generally speaks to the media 

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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:05pm
Confirmed



https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role

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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Confirmed



https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role



This is the fella John Delaney wanted in.Ermm


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Well the Germans beat them 13-0 and the Czechs beat them 7-0 so that suggests they are tightening things up at the back



Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:39pm
Let's see how this pans out, but I think it's good that an 'outsider' has been appointed.


Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 1:17pm
Let's hope we never hear his name again and he turns out to be competently corrupt.

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Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Confirmed



https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role



This is the fella John Delaney wanted in.Ermm


 

Jonathan Hall - wrote the report


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It would damage this forums' reputation


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Confirmed



https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role" rel="nofollow - https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-appoints-jonathan-hill-to-ceo-role



This is the fella John Delaney wanted in.Ermm


 

Jonathan Hall - wrote the report


I presume its the same fella and someone got his name wrong. Jonathan Hall worked for the FA and JD wanted him in as his stooge replacement.


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Well the Germans beat them 13-0 and the Czechs beat them 7-0 so that suggests they are tightening things up at the back



Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 5:11pm
It's not the same fella tap 

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 5:15pm
FFS TJ LOL

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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 5:16pm
How Americans Ruined What Was Once Ketchup - Lawyers, Guns & Money

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Well the Germans beat them 13-0 and the Czechs beat them 7-0 so that suggests they are tightening things up at the back



Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 7:52pm


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Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 8:03pm
Ah, Trap. LOL

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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2021 at 12:09am
Amazing how Jon has cranked up the sponsorship since joining Embarrassed

At least he is willing to trek the Irish Sea after 6 months Clap




Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2021 at 11:30pm
I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2021 at 11:33pm
You'd be safer with f**king Benny Hill running it, make it a proper comedy act


Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2021 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2021 at 11:50pm
Couldn't tell you who the English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish FA's CEOs are. I don't think they're supposed to be celebrities which is part of the reason Irish football is in the shape its in


Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 7:35am
Exactly. If results were going well, we wouldn't be talking about him. Looking for scapegoats here, when the real ones were on the pitch last night.

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Posted By: EdisonCavani
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 9:32am
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused
Totally agree. It should be a sackable offence not to be based in Ireland full time. My own company appointed an Englishman as CEO during pandemic. He moved over immediately Lockdown 1 last year was eased. This was despite he being sitting in a house or apartment in Dublin on his own working remotely as office was still closed. 


Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 10:56am
I wonder if Mr Hill realises the size of the job ahead of him

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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 7:41pm
https://twitter.com/PFAISolicitor/status/1376157088532021249?s=20" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/PFAISolicitor/status/1376157088532021249?s=20

PFAI not consulted on reforms. Any insight on this from D69er?


Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

https://twitter.com/PFAISolicitor/status/1376157088532021249?s=20" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/PFAISolicitor/status/1376157088532021249?s=20

PFAI not consulted on reforms. Any insight on this from D69er?

Been working all weekend and had that EGM this morning / afternoon. Will be working on some comms tomorrow to issue to members when finalised. We are extremely disappointed at how the process was handled in terms of the lack of consultation. Supporters made a statement at the EGM today and both reps spoke and expressed that disappointment.  


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Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 12:15am
Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I wonder if Mr Hill realises the size of the job ahead of him

It's an up Hill one 


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It would damage this forums' reputation


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 11:57am
Member relations with FAI have 'deteriorated' since the appointment of new FAI CEO Jonathan Hill 


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html

It is quite an achievement to make relations worse than had been previously. Worrying times 


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 

Missed this. I’m not sure. I should have pointed out that he hasn’t answered questions other than the press conference since beginning in the role. Just searched English FA CEO in google and see he was on SSN three weeks ago. Not sure the point of the question but I imagine there’s been a hell of a lot more public appearances than. Hill 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification" rel="nofollow - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification


Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Member relations with FAI have 'deteriorated' since the appointment of new FAI CEO Jonathan Hill 


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html

It is quite an achievement to make relations worse than had been previously. Worrying times 

That link isn't working and browsing the international section I can't find it either.

I believe Hill went with the Ireland team to Serbia etc and then cut his trip short and returned to London. Still failing to deal with the Keane situation too.


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Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 

Missed this. I’m not sure. I should have pointed out that he hasn’t answered questions other than the press conference since beginning in the role. Just searched English FA CEO in google and see he was on SSN three weeks ago. Not sure the point of the question but I imagine there’s been a hell of a lot more public appearances than. Hill 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification" rel="nofollow - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification

The point I was trying to make was that I dont really think it matters if he's not seen or heard from 6 months at a time, public appears are not what a CEO is there for. I know he's moving over from London this month. Considering the sh*t shows he's inherited id imagine he's snowed under.


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 

Missed this. I’m not sure. I should have pointed out that he hasn’t answered questions other than the press conference since beginning in the role. Just searched English FA CEO in google and see he was on SSN three weeks ago. Not sure the point of the question but I imagine there’s been a hell of a lot more public appearances than. Hill 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification" rel="nofollow - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification

The point I was trying to make was that I dont really think it matters if he's not seen or heard from 6 months at a time, public appears are not what a CEO is there for. I know he's moving over from London this month. Considering the sh*t shows he's inherited id imagine he's snowed under.

This is an Association in tens of millions of debt and they are free to get on with business with no questions to answer and unaccountable to public representatives and the general public who are funding them? I would agree if they were wheeling out spokespeople to tackle the, as you say, sh*t show he has inherited but they’re not. The buck stops with him and the Board and to be honest I’m not so sure how appropriate it is for a non executive Chairman in Roy Barrett to be answering questions as he did last week. He simply doesn’t have the day to day experience in house.

In any case; if everything else was going well and he was making a good impression; the public appearances wouldn’t be a concern. But that is not the case.


Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 

Missed this. I’m not sure. I should have pointed out that he hasn’t answered questions other than the press conference since beginning in the role. Just searched English FA CEO in google and see he was on SSN three weeks ago. Not sure the point of the question but I imagine there’s been a hell of a lot more public appearances than. Hill 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification" rel="nofollow - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification

The point I was trying to make was that I dont really think it matters if he's not seen or heard from 6 months at a time, public appears are not what a CEO is there for. I know he's moving over from London this month. Considering the sh*t shows he's inherited id imagine he's snowed under.

This is an Association in tens of millions of debt and they are free to get on with business with no questions to answer and unaccountable to public representatives and the general public who are funding them? I would agree if they were wheeling out spokespeople to tackle the, as you say, sh*t show he has inherited but they’re not. The buck stops with him and the Board and to be honest I’m not so sure how appropriate it is for a non executive Chairman in Roy Barrett to be answering questions as he did last week. He simply doesn’t have the day to day experience in house.

In any case; if everything else was going well and he was making a good impression; the public appearances wouldn’t be a concern. But that is not the case.

But going back to my original point he’s only in the job a few months and try to get a grasp of the sh*t show he’s trying to get back in order . That’s not going to happen over night you’d have to agree. I agree he’s accountable there no point him answering any questions unless he has a full grasp of what’s wrong and how he can fix this 


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2021 at 12:27am
Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Member relations with FAI have 'deteriorated' since the appointment of new FAI CEO Jonathan Hill 


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/member-relations-with-fai-have-deteriorated-since-the-appointment-of-new-fai-ceo-jonathan-hill-40270832.html

It is quite an achievement to make relations worse than had been previously. Worrying times 

That link isn't working and browsing the international section I can't find it either.

I believe Hill went with the Ireland team to Serbia etc and then cut his trip short and returned to London. Still failing to deal with the Keane situation too.

Link back working and now the FAI wish everyone a happy Easter and a hush hush Clap


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2021 at 12:37am
Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I find it amazing this CEO has set foot in Ireland for the first time when we have a World Cup qualifier.... Where was he when the league kicked off last weekend - 4 and a half months after he was appointed ?

This appointment is already stinking to high hell and maybe he has Kenny to deflect attention but this is extremely concerning 

One press conference since November when he was telling everyone we would be hosting the Euros Confused



Out of curiosity how many press conferences has the English CEO done in the last 12 Months ? 

Missed this. I’m not sure. I should have pointed out that he hasn’t answered questions other than the press conference since beginning in the role. Just searched English FA CEO in google and see he was on SSN three weeks ago. Not sure the point of the question but I imagine there’s been a hell of a lot more public appearances than. Hill 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification" rel="nofollow - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12240292/fa-chief-executive-mark-bullingham-calls-on-social-media-to-introduce-identification

The point I was trying to make was that I dont really think it matters if he's not seen or heard from 6 months at a time, public appears are not what a CEO is there for. I know he's moving over from London this month. Considering the sh*t shows he's inherited id imagine he's snowed under.

This is an Association in tens of millions of debt and they are free to get on with business with no questions to answer and unaccountable to public representatives and the general public who are funding them? I would agree if they were wheeling out spokespeople to tackle the, as you say, sh*t show he has inherited but they’re not. The buck stops with him and the Board and to be honest I’m not so sure how appropriate it is for a non executive Chairman in Roy Barrett to be answering questions as he did last week. He simply doesn’t have the day to day experience in house.

In any case; if everything else was going well and he was making a good impression; the public appearances wouldn’t be a concern. But that is not the case.

But going back to my original point he’s only in the job a few months and try to get a grasp of the sh*t show he’s trying to get back in order . That’s not going to happen over night you’d have to agree. I agree he’s accountable there no point him answering any questions unless he has a full grasp of what’s wrong and how he can fix this 

Look I agree with that but he should be on top of things after a couple of months, Don’t mind 6 months. 

He was brought in on the basis he was going to pull in sponsors. Where are they?

He has retained the same senior management that preserved John Delaney. Why hasn’t he shaken that up?

He hasn’t bothered moving to Ireland yet the FAI are at pains to stake there is an open door policy with him LOL Obviously they mean that virtually but who on earth cold calls the CEO to query an employment matterConfused

He has stated he thinks the Euros will be played here.. What world is he living in? And on that basis how much money is being wasted recruiting for this fantasy?

Any word on the ‘investigation’ in to a video being shown to the team? Why was the manager undermined in such a manner?

His opening 6 months has been nothing short of shambolic and now the PFAI, SIPTU and YBIG are coming out criticising him. A bad bad appointment.


Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2021 at 1:18pm
You give Kenny time you give the new CEO time too. I'll wait and see

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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 9:56pm
Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353


Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353


Bit early for him to be sticking his colours to the mast.

If he said he will be kept and we do shockingly over next games he will look like an idiot.

He is smart to say nothing at this juncture - given that the next set of games are likely to be the decider.



Posted By: Greenie50
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:08pm
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353 - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353


Sounds more like he doesn't have time for the interviewer. They have their process & he won't be drawn into giving a soundbite, one way or the other, before that process happens.


Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353


Bit early for him to be sticking his colours to the mast.

If he said he will be kept and we do shockingly over next games he will look like an idiot.

He is smart to say nothing at this juncture - given that the next set of games are likely to be the decider.



Yeah you're probably right in that sense.

Maybe Im just not used to hearing an FAI CEO speaking some sense and logic.


Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:28pm
Those comments are worse than the dreaded vote of confidence to be honest. It would have been easy for him to make a few positive noises in that interview without committing to anything beyond the end of the campaign. Instead he was purposely evasive and refused to say anything positive about the current manager, which is very unusual. Doesn't sound like he was at all impressed by the performances in the last week. 

The failure to beat Azerbaijan at home, on top of all the other poor performances in the last year including against Serbia this week, may have done terminal damage, though you would think if he won the last two away qualifiers they would probably grudgingly keep him on for the first few Nations League games at least.


Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:48pm
I think people are reading too much into Hill's comments. He was being very careful to neither back nor not back Kenny post World Cup. Like the rest of us, he's going to wait to see how the three qualifiers pan out.

It's a bit optimistic to expect him to nail his colours to the mast. What if we were to lose to Azerbaijan next month?


Posted By: Heimatklange
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353
business man/politicians answer. if he had courage he'd be supporting Kenny and handing him a 2024 contract. Spineless.


Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Those comments are worse than the dreaded vote of confidence to be honest. It would have been easy for him to make a few positive noises in that interview without committing to anything beyond the end of the campaign. Instead he was purposely evasive and refused to say anything positive about the current manager, which is very unusual. Doesn't sound like he was at all impressed by the performances in the last week. 

The failure to beat Azerbaijan at home, on top of all the other poor performances in the last year including against Serbia this week, may have done terminal damage, though you would think if he won the last two away qualifiers they would probably grudgingly keep him on for the first few Nations League games at least.

People will hear what they want to hear, so these comments come as no surprise.



Posted By: Ecumenical Matter
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Doesnt sound like he has too much time for Kenny

http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/BernardOToole/status/1436007235612729353
business man/politicians answer. if he had courage he'd be supporting Kenny and handing him a 2024 contract. Spineless.

Not even remotely spineless.  It’s professional.  It’s been so long since anyone has acted that way in the FAI that we don’t even know what it looks like.  In the good old days we’d extend a contract when we are four points behind Luxembourg.  We’d probably give Robbie a bonus as well.  All he is doing is what you should expect him to: Evaluate SK’s performance at or near the end of his contract based on results and progress in developing a team for the future.  


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 2:31am
Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.


Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 7:11am
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

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Posted By: Badgersboys9
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 7:42am
Very hard to tell if them posts are parody or not.


Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 9:29am
I would obviously love if they came out and backed Kenny as I do think he has a chance in 2024 to achieve his vision of bringing through the younger players while playing a more easy on the eye style of play and qualify us for that tournament and I really don’t see how changing the manager again so soon will give us a better chance at this moment.
That said, given our winless record and fact Kenny will have had 20 games by the end of the campaign, if we were still to be winless then there probably is a question to be asked and it’s therefore a smarter business decision to wait until then. So as a football fan believing in Kenny, his backing for the manager would be great but from a business sense Hill said absolutely the right thing. God knows how JD would have answered the sort of questioning if I’m a similar situation, actually we know how….He Wouldn’t Have Taking The Question!!!!


Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

I think people are reading too much into Hill's comments. He was being very careful to neither back nor not back Kenny post World Cup. Like the rest of us, he's going to wait to see how the three qualifiers pan out.

It's a bit optimistic to expect him to nail his colours to the mast. What if we were to lose to Azerbaijan next month?
Would agree with this. 


Posted By: OohAah...
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:44am
If It was JD... He takes credit for the Appointment and Credit for the Dismassal Meanwhile disowning the credit He took for the Appointment ( RE Stan)

Its refreshing to have a CEO who just answers like a CEO should. As in bland sh*te !




Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:22am
Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

If It was JD... He takes credit for the Appointment and Credit for the Dismassal Meanwhile disowning the credit He took for the Appointment ( RE Stan)

Its refreshing to have a CEO who just answers like a CEO should. As in bland sh*te !


I agree - it’s another 7 competitive games if you include the NL in June and probably another 2/3 friendlies before contract is up so all too early.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 12:01pm
Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.


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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

I think people are reading too much into Hill's comments. He was being very careful to neither back nor not back Kenny post World Cup. Like the rest of us, he's going to wait to see how the three qualifiers pan out.

It's a bit optimistic to expect him to nail his colours to the mast. What if we were to lose to Azerbaijan next month?
Would agree with this. 

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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.

Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


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Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

If It was JD... He takes credit for the Appointment and Credit for the Dismassal Meanwhile disowning the credit He took for the Appointment ( RE Stan)

Its refreshing to have a CEO who just answers like a CEO should. As in bland sh*te !



Yep, the Great Leader would always go for some crazy publicity stunt e.g. renewing the contract of a manager with a lot of questions hanging over them, sacking a manager at short notice etc. It was always a bit chaotic.


Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 12:53pm
JD would’ve 100% given SK a new contract after seeing the “in Kenny we trust” banner.  LOL


Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

JD would’ve 100% given SK a new contract after seeing the “in Kenny we trust” banner.  LOL

There was a more than a bit of the populist politician about him alright. It was always stunts and big gestures (mainly with the aim of making 'him' look good).


Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.



Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


MCG im a huge SK fan and believe he should get til Euro 2024 to implement his vision and bring new players thru to get them 15-20 caps. And i know alot of the debate comes back to previous managers, styles etc which is a valid reference point. As i said in other threads where we are now is not as bad as some would have you believe but by extension on reflection maybe past managers results were also not as bad as thought of then.

Im not defending Stan or his appointment or experience but when you look back at Stans results and SK they are nearly the same number of games in as each other in their tenure. For the comparison im going to give SK a 2-1 home win over Qatar as he is on 16 games played currently.

Imagine you never seen any of Stans games or SK. You are Brazilian journalist researching an article on Irish football managers. Stans world cup group had Germany and the Czech Republic in it. As it turned out the Czech Republic won the group on 29 points, 2 ahead of Germany on 27. Was it reasonable to expect us to qualify from that group? Even if we had not suffered the Cyprus loss and had won it we would still have finished 3rd on points anyway. We got 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

STAN P 17 W 6 D 6 L 5   SCORED 23   CONCEDED 18           POINTS GAINED 16

For Stan his time in charge is not looked at fondly. Who knows if he would have improved in the next campaign? Looking back now was that a dreadful qualifying campaign?

Then we look at Kennys tenure (again i am pro SK) but just for debate. Ironically enough which no one seems to mention much is that Stephen Kenny was John Delaneys last appointment as senior manager as part of the succession plan with Mick McCarthy. Would a 3rd place finish in this 2022 campaign be viewed as a success or a failure? As SK himself said "did anyone expect us to qualify for the world cup?" SK group has Portugal and Serbia in it. If we draw with Portugal at home we will have gotten 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

SK   P 17 W 2 D 8 L 7   SCORED 13   CONCEDED 17           POINTS GAINED 4

Again if you just read the stats there is nothing between Stans first 17 games and Kennys. One of the big conversations in Irish football really is can we agree on what is a realistic ambition for our team going forward. I think for Jonathan Hill and the Board of the FAI that is a key metric they need to give us.




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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

JD would’ve 100% given SK a new contract after seeing the “in Delaney Kenny we trust” banner.  LOL

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Posted By: Stickittotheman
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by irelandshirts irelandshirts wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.



Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


MCG im a huge SK fan and believe he should get til Euro 2024 to implement his vision and bring new players thru to get them 15-20 caps. And i know alot of the debate comes back to previous managers, styles etc which is a valid reference point. As i said in other threads where we are now is not as bad as some would have you believe but by extension on reflection maybe past managers results were also not as bad as thought of then.

Im not defending Stan or his appointment or experience but when you look back at Stans results and SK they are nearly the same number of games in as each other in their tenure. For the comparison im going to give SK a 2-1 home win over Qatar as he is on 16 games played currently.

Imagine you never seen any of Stans games or SK. You are Brazilian journalist researching an article on Irish football managers. Stans world cup group had Germany and the Czech Republic in it. As it turned out the Czech Republic won the group on 29 points, 2 ahead of Germany on 27. Was it reasonable to expect us to qualify from that group? Even if we had not suffered the Cyprus loss and had won it we would still have finished 3rd on points anyway. We got 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

STAN P 17 W 6 D 6 L 5   SCORED 23   CONCEDED 18           POINTS GAINED 16

For Stan his time in charge is not looked at fondly. Who knows if he would have improved in the next campaign? Looking back now was that a dreadful qualifying campaign?

Then we look at Kennys tenure (again i am pro SK) but just for debate. Ironically enough which no one seems to mention much is that Stephen Kenny was John Delaneys last appointment as senior manager as part of the succession plan with Mick McCarthy. Would a 3rd place finish in this 2022 campaign be viewed as a success or a failure? As SK himself said "did anyone expect us to qualify for the world cup?" SK group has Portugal and Serbia in it. If we draw with Portugal at home we will have gotten 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

SK   P 17 W 2 D 8 L 7   SCORED 13   CONCEDED 17           POINTS GAINED 4

Again if you just read the stats there is nothing between Stans first 17 games and Kennys. One of the big conversations in Irish football really is can we agree on what is a realistic ambition for our team going forward. I think for Jonathan Hill and the Board of the FAI that is a key metric they need to give us.



I am confused how if you read the stats there isn't that much difference between SK and Stan's reigns? Stan won 6 games at least, sure he had better players and if you adjust for expectations then maybe yeah their reigns are similar. It does say something though that we are comparing these two reigns- I think SK much like Stan is out of his depth.. 


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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:36pm
Stan was the worst manager we’ve ever had ffs. Look at the players he had LOL I’ve never seen another manager so out of his depth 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:37pm
Stan actually blooded a load of players, and he actively sought out alternatives when the chips were down. He responded well to the Cyprus disaster, and did keep Ireland at a level of competitiveness with the wins against Slovakia and Wales. Had we beaten Slovakia away it might have changed things, but I think the results against Cyprus and the way we won in San Marino created serious doubt.

What might be forgotten is that Stan had a very strong spine of players available to him, a crop of youth, and even lads like Carsley who returned to the fold. The thought process at the time was that we had fallen badly short of qualifying. Backing up on the disastrous WC '06 qualification campaign it was not something that the powers that be wanted to see happen again, hence the deal with Trap.


Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:43pm
You can compare records but you can't really say they are like for like at all, our expectations should be much lower now based on the squad alone. Not sure if the injury situation that would have been faced but around that time Stan would have generally been able to pick from the following pool of Premier League players:

Given, Steve Finnan, Dunne, Stephen Carr, John O'Shea, Steven Reid, Andy Reid, Kilbane, Duffer, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Stephen Ireland, McGeady

A lot of them in their prime as well. Any of those players would improve our current side and any of Robbie and Duff (and a fit Andy or Steven Reid) would be game changers



Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Stan was the worst manager we’ve ever had ffs. Look at the players he had LOL I’ve never seen another manager so out of his depth 

You must have been in a coma for the last year. LOL


Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Stan was the worst manager we’ve ever had ffs. Look at the players he had LOL I’ve never seen another manager so out of his depth 

You must have been in a coma for the last year. LOL
You actually think Staunton is a better manager than Kenny now, absolutely laughable the levels you’ll stoop to, to have a go LOL embarrassing 


Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

You can compare records but you can't really say they are like for like at all, our expectations should be much lower now based on the squad alone. Not sure if the injury situation that would have been faced but around that time Stan would have generally been able to pick from the following pool of Premier League players:

Given, Steve Finnan, Dunne, Stephen Carr, John O'Shea, Steven Reid, Andy Reid, Kilbane, Duffer, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Stephen Ireland, McGeady

A lot of them in their prime as well. Any of those players would improve our current side and any of Robbie and Duff (and a fit Andy or Steven Reid) would be game changers





Yeah thats fair t rAndy of course. I guess my point was that maybe in hindsight a 3rd place finish by Stan in a group where Czech got 29 points and Germany got 27 was as good as could be expected. Even if we beat Cyprus and draw both games against top seeds we still finish 3rd in the group. If we win against Luxembourg and Azerbaijan and finish 3rd will that be a good campaign?

Many people feel that under MON our Euro 2016 round of 16 exit was at best "par". So by that logic SK must get to the quarter finals of Euro 2024 for it to be deemed an improvement?

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Posted By: Heimatklange
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

You can compare records but you can't really say they are like for like at all, our expectations should be much lower now based on the squad alone. Not sure if the injury situation that would have been faced but around that time Stan would have generally been able to pick from the following pool of Premier League players:

Given, Steve Finnan, Dunne, Stephen Carr, John O'Shea, Steven Reid, Andy Reid, Kilbane, Duffer, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Stephen Ireland, McGeady

A lot of them in their prime as well. Any of those players would improve our current side and any of Robbie and Duff (and a fit Andy or Steven Reid) would be game changers

That team is man for man better than what Kenny inherited


Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 2:15pm
It wasn't a bad position to finish in hindsight. We were actually 4th seeds and finished above Slovakia who were 3rd seeds. That would be considered an achievement to finish above your seeding place nowadays. 

The issue for stan was Cyprus and San marino. It was a shock to our system to have such bad results (San Marino was a win but the nature of it against the worse team in europe was the shock). We had always taken care of the results against the lower teams until then as had all other upper and mid ranked teams generally done whatwas needed against lower teams. As the years progressed after, lot of teams ended up getting some freak results as the lower teams improved and got more professional and orgsnized. 

But still, that squad for Stan we should have been much closer to Czech and Germany but if it was now you would probably not be sacking the manager for a similar return of points and position in a first campaign (it would have got a play off in the expanded format).


Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 2:27pm
Just to point out something too, Germany qualified with the point against us, they then lost to Czech Republic , Not saying they took the foot of the gas after the point against us, but they may have finished top and taken more points off the Czechs if they had still needed the points.

As mentioned though it wasn't games against Germany and Czech Republic which cost us that group 1 point against Cyprus (almost 0 if it hadn't been for Finnan's late goal) also the San Marino debacle.


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Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 2:55pm
[QUOTE=t_rAndy] It wasn't a bad position to finish in hindsight. We were actually 4th seeds and finished above Slovakia who were 3rd seeds. That would be considered an achievement to finish above your seeding place nowadays. 

The issue for stan was Cyprus and San marino. It was a shock to our system to have such bad results (San Marino was a win but the nature of it against the worse team in europe was the shock). We had always taken care of the results against the lower teams until then as had all other upper and mid ranked teams generally done whatwas needed against lower teams. As the years progressed after, lot of teams ended up getting some freak results as the lower teams improved and got more professional and orgsnized. 

But still, that squad for Stan we should have been much closer to Czech and Germany but if it was now you would probably not be sacking the manager for a similar return of points and position in a first campaign (it would have got a play off in the expanded format).




If you swap Stans Cyprus for SK Luxembourg as results everyone agrees are not acceptable as bottom line. Stan beat San Marino so it was a win. I remember when under Trap we went to Kazakhstan and won by one goal and Trap and the team were slaughtered. Sweden went to the same venue in the same campaign just 3 days later and won by one goal. I didnt see the game just that Sweden got 3 points. Sometimes results on their own can point to alot of things or they can sometimes just be a result. I agree with you now that the standard of most teams has progressed hugely since 2006 and if you look across most results from international breaks there are very few big scores wracked up compared to years ago. And thats again my point just i guess about our own realistic expectation's from a manager and the team should be going forward.





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Posted By: Artie Ziff
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by irelandshirts irelandshirts wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.



Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


MCG im a huge SK fan and believe he should get til Euro 2024 to implement his vision and bring new players thru to get them 15-20 caps. And i know alot of the debate comes back to previous managers, styles etc which is a valid reference point. As i said in other threads where we are now is not as bad as some would have you believe but by extension on reflection maybe past managers results were also not as bad as thought of then.

Im not defending Stan or his appointment or experience but when you look back at Stans results and SK they are nearly the same number of games in as each other in their tenure. For the comparison im going to give SK a 2-1 home win over Qatar as he is on 16 games played currently.

Imagine you never seen any of Stans games or SK. You are Brazilian journalist researching an article on Irish football managers. Stans world cup group had Germany and the Czech Republic in it. As it turned out the Czech Republic won the group on 29 points, 2 ahead of Germany on 27. Was it reasonable to expect us to qualify from that group? Even if we had not suffered the Cyprus loss and had won it we would still have finished 3rd on points anyway. We got 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

STAN P 17 W 6 D 6 L 5   SCORED 23   CONCEDED 18           POINTS GAINED 16

For Stan his time in charge is not looked at fondly. Who knows if he would have improved in the next campaign? Looking back now was that a dreadful qualifying campaign?

Then we look at Kennys tenure (again i am pro SK) but just for debate. Ironically enough which no one seems to mention much is that Stephen Kenny was John Delaneys last appointment as senior manager as part of the succession plan with Mick McCarthy. Would a 3rd place finish in this 2022 campaign be viewed as a success or a failure? As SK himself said "did anyone expect us to qualify for the world cup?" SK group has Portugal and Serbia in it. If we draw with Portugal at home we will have gotten 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

SK   P 17 W 2 D 8 L 7   SCORED 13   CONCEDED 17           POINTS GAINED 4

Again if you just read the stats there is nothing between Stans first 17 games and Kennys. One of the big conversations in Irish football really is can we agree on what is a realistic ambition for our team going forward. I think for Jonathan Hill and the Board of the FAI that is a key metric they need to give us.



Well there is a big difference of 12 points!! 

Kenny's record is the sh*ttest ever by some distance. And it understandable some fans look at that and say he's not good enough. 



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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Stan was the worst manager we’ve ever had ffs. Look at the players he had LOL I’ve never seen another manager so out of his depth 

You must have been in a coma for the last year. LOL
You actually think Staunton is a better manager than Kenny now, absolutely laughable the levels you’ll stoop to, to have a go LOL embarrassing 
Fook me, YTM is now so entrenched in his Anti-SK position, he's beyond parody. If this was FB or Twitter, I would have just blocked him ages ago.  LOLClown


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Posted By: irelandshirts
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by irelandshirts irelandshirts wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.



Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


MCG im a huge SK fan and believe he should get til Euro 2024 to implement his vision and bring new players thru to get them 15-20 caps. And i know alot of the debate comes back to previous managers, styles etc which is a valid reference point. As i said in other threads where we are now is not as bad as some would have you believe but by extension on reflection maybe past managers results were also not as bad as thought of then.

Im not defending Stan or his appointment or experience but when you look back at Stans results and SK they are nearly the same number of games in as each other in their tenure. For the comparison im going to give SK a 2-1 home win over Qatar as he is on 16 games played currently.

Imagine you never seen any of Stans games or SK. You are Brazilian journalist researching an article on Irish football managers. Stans world cup group had Germany and the Czech Republic in it. As it turned out the Czech Republic won the group on 29 points, 2 ahead of Germany on 27. Was it reasonable to expect us to qualify from that group? Even if we had not suffered the Cyprus loss and had won it we would still have finished 3rd on points anyway. We got 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

STAN P 17 W 6 D 6 L 5   SCORED 23   CONCEDED 18           POINTS GAINED 16

For Stan his time in charge is not looked at fondly. Who knows if he would have improved in the next campaign? Looking back now was that a dreadful qualifying campaign?

Then we look at Kennys tenure (again i am pro SK) but just for debate. Ironically enough which no one seems to mention much is that Stephen Kenny was John Delaneys last appointment as senior manager as part of the succession plan with Mick McCarthy. Would a 3rd place finish in this 2022 campaign be viewed as a success or a failure? As SK himself said "did anyone expect us to qualify for the world cup?" SK group has Portugal and Serbia in it. If we draw with Portugal at home we will have gotten 2 points from 6 against the two top seeds.

SK   P 17 W 2 D 8 L 7   SCORED 13   CONCEDED 17           POINTS GAINED 4

Again if you just read the stats there is nothing between Stans first 17 games and Kennys. One of the big conversations in Irish football really is can we agree on what is a realistic ambition for our team going forward. I think for Jonathan Hill and the Board of the FAI that is a key metric they need to give us.




Well there is a big difference of 12 points!! 

Kenny's record is the sh*ttest ever by some distance. And it understandable some fans look at that and say he's not good enough. 



For many Irish fans Stans record wasn't good enough for finishing 3rd in a group, Traps record wasn't good enough, O Neills record wasn't good enough and Mick McCarthys record of P 10 W 5 D4 L 1 wasn't good enough. So just exactly what should an Irish manager do to be considered good enough? Automatic qualification? Yes definitely the aim but over 4 games against the 2 top seeds that's a huge ask. In 2002 we drew with Portugal home and away and beat Holland in Dublin to get a playoff!Massive results which we all hope for but are so hard to achieve.

And I get that the style of football is important. Of course people want to see good football but there's a pragmatic approach also sometimes that points win prizes and we stay in contention in our group by hook or by crook. Did we get some luck against Serbia? Yes. Good point. Yes. Will performance be remembered by anyone? Nope. Point in pocket and you move onto Azerbaijan.

Jack Charlton and that team from 1988-1994 probably set the bar at unrealistic levels for all that follow. I think for a lot of Ireland fans in the last 20 years apart from the Robbie Brady v Italy and the Shane Long goal in the win over Germany we haven't had those "I was there when...." moments that can make everything that went before it seem alright.

Like I asked before name the 3 best consecutive Irish performances since 2003. Not results but 3 games where we put a run of excellent performances together?


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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

If It was JD... He takes credit for the Appointment and Credit for the Dismassal Meanwhile disowning the credit He took for the Appointment ( RE Stan)

Its refreshing to have a CEO who just answers like a CEO should. As in bland sh*te !



Nail on the head. I wouldn't have recognised this chap if he passed me on the street. Refreshing after the previous reign of terror


Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 4:44pm
If we were to make a comparison with Michael O'Neill having his contract renewed with NI after a 'bad' campaign, he did so after getting 7 points in the WC group. So we'd be looking at SK picking up around 8 points in order to justify staying - he probably does need to go and win in AZ and Lux to secure the new contract (a win against Portugal would almost certainly manage it).


Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

If we were to make a comparison with Michael O'Neill having his contract renewed with NI after a 'bad' campaign, he did so after getting 7 points in the WC group. So we'd be looking at SK picking up around 8 points in order to justify staying - he probably does need to go and win in AZ and Lux to secure the new contract (a win against Portugal would almost certainly manage it).


Probably worth considering exactly where NI were before Michael O Neill in that case.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.

Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


I wasn't comparing them as managers but more so in the naive fact that both thinking they could have a few years to rebuild the side.  Like Carlito says ''he has a big future if he can live past next week''.

Or as the great Apollo Creed said  ''there is no tomorrow!''

Wise words from one of sports all time greats.

Kenny is on another planet if he thinks the FAI and public will write him a blank cheque to lose as many games as he likes while he tinkers with the side just because he now says he is aiming for 2024.


When Mick was in charge the narrative from Kenny and others including myself was we had the players to get the same results as Mick was getting but in a better more attractive way.  Kenny himself told the press we had excellent players who had lost their way under poor management from his predecessors such as Brady and Hendrick.  He said he fundamentally and totally disagreed with the thinking that we didn't have the players and disagreed with talking down our team.  Now he is doing the same.  He talks up the opposition and makes Azerbaijan, Luxembourg and Serbia sound like world class teams. He didn't like our lack of ambition and now he says we had no hope of qualifying for the WC because he failed at his job to keep us competitive.

All seems like the hurler on the ditch finding it a lot harder than he thought it would be and is now making excuses.

When he started I was 90% optimistic 10% apprehensive he had the pedigree.

Now it has switched around.  The next few games will tell all we need to know.






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Posted By: Stickittotheman
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.

Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


I wasn't comparing them as managers but more so in the naive fact that both thinking they could have a few years to rebuild the side.  Like Carlito says ''he has a big future if he can live past next week''.

Or as the great Apollo Creed said  ''there is no tomorrow!''

Wise words from one of sports all time greats.

Kenny is on another planet if he thinks the FAI and public will write him a blank cheque to lose as many games as he likes while he tinkers with the side just because he now says he is aiming for 2024.


When Mick was in charge the narrative from Kenny and others including myself was we had the players to get the same results as Mick was getting but in a better more attractive way.  Kenny himself told the press we had excellent players who had lost their way under poor management from his predecessors such as Brady and Hendrick.  He said he fundamentally and totally disagreed with the thinking that we didn't have the players and disagreed with talking down our team.  Now he is doing the same.  He talks up the opposition and makes Azerbaijan, Luxembourg and Serbia sound like world class teams. He didn't like our lack of ambition and now he says we had no hope of qualifying for the WC because he failed at his job to keep us competitive.

All seems like the hurler on the ditch finding it a lot harder than he thought it would be and is now making excuses.

When he started I was 90% optimistic 10% apprehensive he had the pedigree.

Now it has switched around.  The next few games will tell all we need to know.





Top post. This I what he said when he took over whilst remembering he said we had really" .....only won 1 of the 6 games in the group if you exclude  Gibraltar". I assume then he felt that didn't particularly count due to the opposition. Andorra however well.

"The challenge is to create a team that creates chances. It’s not just that we haven’t scored goals — we haven’t created that many chances. To have a creative team, the best way of doing that is to establish control."

"There are many ways of doing that, overloading in midfield and inter-changing positions against opposition perceived to be better; using the width of the pitch, against weaker teams."

I totally agree with your comment that when he came in he led us to believe we could get results in a better way. We had talent there and often we played ourselves down instead of having faith. It is always a telling sign when a manager starts to use excuse after excuse. Covid, no luck, no goalscorer, could have won, should have won. Eventually there can't be anymore. Eventually you have to put up or shut up. As you say if anyone thinks we are going to write off an entire campaign in the name of a rebuild and have no minimum standard then they are deluded. The maximum we can get now is 11points highly unlikely to reach that. 8 points looks possible rather than probable. 6 points maybe. To me anything under 8 points is wholly unacceptable and that is why I maintain 2wins in the net 3 games is imperative. Otherwise there can be no hope of staying on.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Who wants the dreaded vote of confidence?  You're gone a few weeks later.

Kenny should be kept on his toes like the players.  Another defeat to a minnow and he should be sacked.

This 2024 team building thing is like Stan's 4 year plan. You cant expect to be given a free pass to write off a campaign and get crap results losing to lesser opposition.  A certain minimum standard is still expected despite any rebuild.

Id hold SKs ability as a coach and manager in much greater regard to that of Stans. And by that i mean, he actually has a plan. SK also has a much stronger backroom it seems. 

I know Kenny hasnt operated at the highest level prior to this gig but Stan came out of nowhere as assistant at Walsall. Laughable really. 


I wasn't comparing them as managers but more so in the naive fact that both thinking they could have a few years to rebuild the side.  Like Carlito says ''he has a big future if he can live past next week''.

Or as the great Apollo Creed said  ''there is no tomorrow!''

Wise words from one of sports all time greats.

Kenny is on another planet if he thinks the FAI and public will write him a blank cheque to lose as many games as he likes while he tinkers with the side just because he now says he is aiming for 2024.


When Mick was in charge the narrative from Kenny and others including myself was we had the players to get the same results as Mick was getting but in a better more attractive way.  Kenny himself told the press we had excellent players who had lost their way under poor management from his predecessors such as Brady and Hendrick.  He said he fundamentally and totally disagreed with the thinking that we didn't have the players and disagreed with talking down our team.  Now he is doing the same.  He talks up the opposition and makes Azerbaijan, Luxembourg and Serbia sound like world class teams. He didn't like our lack of ambition and now he says we had no hope of qualifying for the WC because he failed at his job to keep us competitive.

All seems like the hurler on the ditch finding it a lot harder than he thought it would be and is now making excuses.

When he started I was 90% optimistic 10% apprehensive he had the pedigree.

Now it has switched around.  The next few games will tell all we need to know.





Top post. This I what he said when he took over whilst remembering he said we had really" .....only won 1 of the 6 games in the group if you exclude  Gibraltar". I assume then he felt that didn't particularly count due to the opposition. Andorra however well.

"The challenge is to create a team that creates chances. It’s not just that we haven’t scored goals — we haven’t created that many chances. To have a creative team, the best way of doing that is to establish control."

"There are many ways of doing that, overloading in midfield and inter-changing positions against opposition perceived to be better; using the width of the pitch, against weaker teams."

I totally agree with your comment that when he came in he led us to believe we could get results in a better way. We had talent there and often we played ourselves down instead of having faith. It is always a telling sign when a manager starts to use excuse after excuse. Covid, no luck, no goalscorer, could have won, should have won. Eventually there can't be anymore. Eventually you have to put up or shut up. As you say if anyone thinks we are going to write off an entire campaign in the name of a rebuild and have no minimum standard then they are deluded. The maximum we can get now is 11points highly unlikely to reach that. 8 points looks possible rather than probable. 6 points maybe. To me anything under 8 points is wholly unacceptable and that is why I maintain 2wins in the net 3 games is imperative. Otherwise there can be no hope of staying on.


It's almost as if people believe Serbia, Luxembourg and Azerbaijan have suddenly massively improved and we are really in a group with pot 1 and pot 2 teams.  They are poor sides. We have regressed since Mick.  Serbia are decent but nothing special. What have they ever done? 


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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:56pm
Pretty sure Serbia won a youth World Cup about 5 years ago and a European title a couple of years before that.

What have Ireland ever done?


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Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:07pm
Mick had us competitive and getting good draws vs the Euro 2020 Quarter and Semi finalists. We were probably the better team at home v Denmark too, which is something that Kenny gets credit for even in defeat.

The standards have dropped a crazy amount since then.

Lets not forget that Kenny told us we had a top 10 back 4/5 in Europe a year ago. Can't keep a clean sheet  though for some reason.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Pretty sure Serbia won a youth World Cup about 5 years ago and a European title a couple of years before that.

What have Ireland ever done?


Won 2 European Championships and 3rd in the World in 1998. Underage football may or may not translate into senior team success.   It is certainly no proof that they are a top side.  Serbia were knocked out of the 2018 world cup with not that hard a group.




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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:24pm
I was all for Kenny's appointment and was intrigued to see if he could have Ireland punching above their weight like he had Dundalk in the Europa League in which I saw all of their games.  He had them playing nice football and competing but ultimately coming up short.

I had reservations about his pedigree having been only in LOI and a bad stint at Dunfermline. 

He had us playing some nice but ultimately ineffective football up until the England game.  Since then the football has gotten worse and results continued to nosedive.   It looks to me he is tactically not up to scratch at this level and is not making the in game adjustments a top coach would make.  I also think his personality is not up to the media scrutiny at this level.  He can't string coherent sentences together in interviews and looks confused and indecisive never finishing his sentence and going off on tangents. He just doesn't have a strong commanding presence.  This must transmit to the players on some level.

I think people want to believe what he is selling and that is clouding their judgement.   He may have the right ideas but is he the man to implement them?


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Posted By: Greenie50
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:24pm
Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Mick had us competitive and getting good draws vs the Euro 2020 Quarter and Semi finalists. We were probably the better team at home v Denmark too, which is something that Kenny gets credit for even in defeat.

The standards have dropped a crazy amount since then.

Lets not forget that Kenny told us we had a top 10 back 4/5 in Europe a year ago. Can't keep a clean sheet  though for some reason.


No, Mick had us "tough to beat", not "competitive". Mick, with a play-off in his back pocket, had us "tough to beat" against Gibraltar & Georgia, with a full squad!

You lads keep glossing over the fact Kenny has been missing half his squad for almost all of his games. Micks team couldn't score a goal when he was just missing McGoldrick (0-0 vs Georgia, 2-0 vs Switz).

Context is important when trying to evaluate why results are the way they are. If all you're doing is looking at the results then you won't identify the actual problems, & your solution will be ineffective.



Posted By: doherty
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 11:46pm
This media thing is mullarkey. There are very few coaches who play out well in the media while under pressure. Very few. Mourinho storms off when questioned. Fergie gets the hump with the BBC. Top top managers. Noel King LOL the list goes on. I couldnt give 2 flying fcuks if he stumbles over every single word. Thats not what we judge him on. And i dont buy this the players aren't getting his message lark either. Hes not speaking spanish is he. Not that hard.

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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:14am
Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

This media thing is mullarkey. There are very few coaches who play out well in the media while under pressure. Very few. Mourinho storms off when questioned. Fergie gets the hump with the BBC. Top top managers. Noel King LOL the list goes on. I couldnt give 2 flying fcuks if he stumbles over every single word. Thats not what we judge him on. And i dont buy this the players aren't getting his message lark either. Hes not speaking spanish is he. Not that hard.


Not to mention Trap who could barely string a sentence together in English. Nevermind getting his point across to the media, the players have openly admitted they hadnt a f**king clue what he was on about at the best of times! Then theres O'Neill who had to send out his lapdog Keane to do most of the media duties for him because he was too precious to take any sort of criticism. 


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:23am
Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

This overpaid clown was brought in to get sponsors on board…. 12 months down the line and the senior team still has no sponsor. I rest my case. 

The Board made an error but nobody is free from making them. The problem is he has overseen a number; the ‘investigation’ into the video prior the England match, he has kept Cathal Dervan on after his antics in leaking that matter and he has refused to get rid of Joe McGlue whom without, Delaney would never have held on as long as he did. He wasn’t bothered crossing the Irish Sea to meet his team until 6 months after being appointed despite being able to meet the senior team in Wembley. 

An abject performance by an abject appointment. 


Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:34am
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

This overpaid clown was brought in to get sponsors on board…. 12 months down the line and the senior team still has no sponsor. I rest my case. 

The Board made an error but nobody is free from making them. The problem is he has overseen a number; the ‘investigation’ into the video prior the England match, he has kept Cathal Dervan on after his antics in leaking that matter and he has refused to get rid of Joe McGlue whom without, Delaney would never have held on as long as he did. He wasn’t bothered crossing the Irish Sea to meet his team until 6 months after being appointed despite being able to meet the senior team in Wembley. 

An abject performance by an abject appointment. 

Well, he has just brought in Sky for the women's national team. That seems a bit of a coup (rumoured to be a six figure sum per annum).


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:37am
Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

This overpaid clown was brought in to get sponsors on board…. 12 months down the line and the senior team still has no sponsor. I rest my case. 

The Board made an error but nobody is free from making them. The problem is he has overseen a number; the ‘investigation’ into the video prior the England match, he has kept Cathal Dervan on after his antics in leaking that matter and he has refused to get rid of Joe McGlue whom without, Delaney would never have held on as long as he did. He wasn’t bothered crossing the Irish Sea to meet his team until 6 months after being appointed despite being able to meet the senior team in Wembley. 

An abject performance by an abject appointment. 

Well, he has just brought in Sky for the women's national team. That seems a bit of a coup (rumoured to be a six figure sum per annum).

Stop the world - a “coup” LOLLOLLOL

Turnover last year was €42 million. That doesn’t cover his wages


Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:46am
Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

This overpaid clown was brought in to get sponsors on board…. 12 months down the line and the senior team still has no sponsor. I rest my case. 

The Board made an error but nobody is free from making them. The problem is he has overseen a number; the ‘investigation’ into the video prior the England match, he has kept Cathal Dervan on after his antics in leaking that matter and he has refused to get rid of Joe McGlue whom without, Delaney would never have held on as long as he did. He wasn’t bothered crossing the Irish Sea to meet his team until 6 months after being appointed despite being able to meet the senior team in Wembley. 

An abject performance by an abject appointment. 

Well, he has just brought in Sky for the women's national team. That seems a bit of a coup (rumoured to be a six figure sum per annum).

Stop the world - a “coup” LOLLOLLOL

Turnover last year was €42 million. That doesn’t cover his wages

You specifically said he couldn't find any sponsors. Getting in Sky to sponsor the WNT for four years seems pretty decent - I believe it's the biggest such sponsorship of any women's sport or team in Ireland until now.


Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:50am
Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Hill will have no say in the decision. 

He is a useless mouthpiece. The Board are already disgusted they appointed him.
Is there anyone you like Pip in the whole of the FAI ?

This overpaid clown was brought in to get sponsors on board…. 12 months down the line and the senior team still has no sponsor. I rest my case. 

The Board made an error but nobody is free from making them. The problem is he has overseen a number; the ‘investigation’ into the video prior the England match, he has kept Cathal Dervan on after his antics in leaking that matter and he has refused to get rid of Joe McGlue whom without, Delaney would never have held on as long as he did. He wasn’t bothered crossing the Irish Sea to meet his team until 6 months after being appointed despite being able to meet the senior team in Wembley. 

An abject performance by an abject appointment. 

Well, he has just brought in Sky for the women's national team. That seems a bit of a coup (rumoured to be a six figure sum per annum).

Stop the world - a “coup” LOLLOLLOL

Turnover last year was €42 million. That doesn’t cover his wages

You specifically said he couldn't find any sponsors. Getting in Sky to sponsor the WNT for four years seems pretty decent - I believe it's the biggest such sponsorship of any women's sport or team in Ireland until now.

Nothing comparable given the men’s and women’s teams were always sponsored by the brand in the past.

Are you saying he is doing a great job? You’ve gone from saying he secured a coup to saying he got ye biggest sponsorship for a women’s team (because they were never sponsored separately in the past).


Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 4:20am
Kenny never said "we hadn't a hope of qualifying" or "did anyone really expect us to qualify?" in that press conference, as many posters have suggested.

He referenced the players we had lost and asked "did anyone really expect us to be *favourites* to qualify?" but pointed out that we set out to win every game, and that we took the lead in Serbia and Portugal.



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