Qualifications are a belief in nutty conspiracy theories, being anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-Covid restrictions or down the right wing culture war rabbit hole in general

John Squire has replied to Ian Brown's tweet

Squire is PRO-MASK

The battle lines have been drawn

As somebody who liked Brown's solo stuff and ridiculed Squire's post-Stone Roses musical efforts, this is difficult for me

Richard Madeley is not so much Richard and Judy as punch him and Judy (I mean punch Richard, not Judy)

Samantha Fox hasn't yet weighed in with her opinion

John Fashanu is so far curiously silent, so too Vinnie Jones

We await developments as regards the pronouncements of these key opinion formers 

Surely their relationship was f**ked anyway seeing as the reunion shows ended when they did. Everyone was clamouring for a new album if only to see how bad it might have been and they couldn't keep it together to make it happen. 

 

Hang him high from the nearest lamp post and quick. One utter scumbag for having an opinion

Forgot about that 

Bit over the top and un called for.  

 

Is that not the reaction these days on the internet to someone taking a different view than yourself on a matter such as this?

Ah gets you know 

Posts like this are the problem with the INTERNET and modern society

Free speech grifting, it's called

Claiming to be be "pro-free speech", while simultaneously trying to shut down other people

What it really means is "stupid opinions should be allowed to be voiced unchallenged"

But only stupid opinions

A tactic straight from Katie Hopkins

I aint gonna get angry on the internet about Matt Le Tissier thinking people shouldn't wear masks or Jon Walters suggesting that he votes Conservative.

 Definitely not going to start a new thread suggesting that they have "brain rot" for expressing a view.

 

Each to their own

But you do have a problem with people having opinions

You consistently voice that here

And what you certainly have a problem with is people in the public eye being called out over stupid opinions

While simultaneously claiming you don't

It can't be both, as you claim - they are fundamentally competing claims

The notion that no opinion should be challenged, that all opinions are equal in legitimacy, bedevils modern society

This is why we have the worldwide problem with fascism we now have - because a lot of people count the opinions of Matt Le Tissier as equal in legitimacy to that of, say, Devi Sridhar

And the very people who push this "idea" most, the fascists, are the people who believe in it least - they are the people who most want to shut down any opinion they don't agree with

Which is an entirely different thing to challenging or ridiculing an idiotic opinion like that held by Matt Le Tissier, which is a completely legitimate thing to do

Funnily enough, you've consistently tried to shut down debate about Manchester City's ties to the horrible Abu Dhabi regime

Your opinions are tied up in many knots of confusion, inconsistency and hypocrisy

 

Where have I claimed that?

 

I've been pretty consistent. People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how stupid others may view it, and don't have to be hauled over the coals incessantly, obsessed over or treated like a pariah for having a differing one.

 

The very fact you've started a thread about them is strange in itself.

An ex footballer believes we shouldn't have to wear masks.  Boo f**king hoo.

Go an do a days work and get over it

 

You see you're just proving my point

People have the right to privately believe anything they want

But if somebody is publicly uttering stupid and dangerous opinions which are, say, going explicitly against public health advice and promoting the spread of a pandemic disease, they should indeed be challenged, ridiculed and if necessary made a pariah, especially if they have zero knowledge to back up their idiotic opinions - as is the case with Le Tissier, Ian Brown, Peter Ebdon etc.

If, say an expert in a relevant field challenges the public health advice in good faith and makes their case in a reasonable manner, they have at least earned the right to a hearing - that's the difference anf that's the essence of real public debate

Whereas Le Tissier is an ex-footballer who has zero medical expertise, and is also promoting far right political demonstrations

Your ideology says that anybody who, say, publicly denies the Holocaust happened should not suffer in any way for that

Which would obviously be ridiculous

Platforms have responsibilities and misuse has consequences

Le Tissier was obviously sacked from Sky because of what he said and was promoting, and he thoroughly deserved it

Given thinks the lyrics of "Up The RA" by the Rubberbandits is real history

Maybe they should swap acts.

When you're getting rinsed by Jedward you need to give up 

Jedward were hanging around with Vincent Browne nearly a decade ago

They didn't waste the lessons they got from the great man

Ian Brown ( I absolutely love most of his music) is a perfect illustration of one facit of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is an absolute idiot that thinks he knows better than experienced qualified scientists. The type of person that claims that he has done his research whilst not having a clue what research actually means. The fella spouts off about f**king chemtrails on his latest album ffs. 

YOUR NUTS IF YOU BELIVE ANYTING THE MSM TELL U

ALWAYS QUESTION EVERYTING

GO WAY AND TINK FOR URSELF

KEEP AN OPEN MIND ON EVERYTING

DO UR OWN RESERCH

That's my personal favourite. 

The signs were there, he was going steadily in a Morrissey direction

I always thought Don't Believe The Truth was an ironic album title, but it now appears it wasn't

To my knowledge Bernard Sumner and Shaun Ryder still remain free of the brain rot, but that is always subject to change

Gallagher's a dimwit who once boasted on a well-known talkshow that he hadn't read a book since his school days. A Blairite and a vehemently anti-Corbyn gobsh*te to boot.

Remember 'Cool Britannia' and Tony Blair's Number 10 party? Vomit-inducing.

When 'Standing on the Shoulder of Giants' came out it sounded vaguely liierate by Oasis standards for a short time, until it you realised that it's a misquote Noel had seen on a £2 coin in the pub.

"Gaggin' for a chuddy cos it's rock nd roll innit mate" t**sers.

Come to think of it, maybe that's why they made that ridiculous 'Manchester Passion' with Tim Booth.

To be fair to him (not that I've actually checked) but Morrissey has been quite quiet on the conspiracy theories

34 years later his fake story about the Queen being dead still hasn't come true

Be a laugh if he died before her and the Queen then tweeted "Morrissey is dead"

It couldn't be any worse than his last one.

He's demanding he be put behind bars

And there's me thinking it was only crisps he flogged.

'E's and Onion'

'Snort and Lineker'

From my brief experience of their bar, that was the snack list available and it is unlikely Gary was unaware. 

An expert in avoiding taxes too.

The fact he hasn't been investigated by Operation Yewtree is outstanding to me.

The absolute state of the content he puts up on Instagram 

His latest post from today prompted me to put him at #1 for Brain rot. He is the definition of Brain rot.

Had a look at a Southampton FC forum the other day to get their fan's general take on MLT's political views and the majority basically said "he should be immune to criticism because he's a club legend".

A slightly odd sentiment, given that none of the posters actually said they agreed with him about Covid or anything else politically speaking!

Which forum is that?

SaintsWeb, the thread itself on Tiss hasn't been active since early August

Ever seen the reaction on a Celtic or Rangers forum when a club legend is gets into trouble with the law ? Weirdos claiming conspiracies are afoot and wanting to help with bail money and things like that.

I am all for people having a choice if they don’t want to get a vaccine, literally completely their decision but don’t look down at me because I am going to trust the scientists and take the vaccine. 

Lockdown has lead to people having a lot more time to watch videos, read articles etc and unfortunately a lot are having their brains turned to mush. 

“dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh” is a common comment I see these days. People need to wise up and realise how ridiculous they sound. 

I've seen this aLtErNaTiNg between capital and small letters a few times recently from the brain rot brigade

From what I can make out it's some sort of bizarre INTERNET brain rot calling card?

What's the purpose of it?

Anybody know?

It just makes the person who writes such a message look brainwashed, perhaps that's the point?

It also takes quite a lot of effort to do that, I made three mistakes doing it above and had to go back and edit

Actually, Clerkin didn't mention a surname, so it could have been any Ewan he was making fun of 

Le Tissier's brain is now about as much in control about as some of the opposition defenders he left on their arses at his peak were in control trying to dispossess him

Southampton used to play at the Dell when Le Tissier was with them

Dell computers used Microsoft Windows

Microsoft is owned by Bill Gates

Maybe Le Tissier is a Bill Gates plant?  

I dunno, I'm just trying to think like he would 

Qewan

Plus 1 

When I first read that I thought to myself, "What the f**k is Macauley Culken doing on Second Captains?"

The brain sometimes take ill advised short cuts, but most brains have the facility to recognise a wrong turn taken

Some brains however wander into a metaphorical maze of alleyways, get mugged and battered and never emerge again

This thread is about those victims

Brian Harvey, who once ran over himself in a car because of.....ehm.....potatoes apparently, has started a new show on YouTube promoting various conspiracy theories. 

But that doesn't explain the recent trend for gym owners to be going on Twitter and spouting Covid denialism and conspiracy theories

I'd say if you did up a list of all the people who have ever been a contestant on "I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here", there would be a fair correlation with celebrity brain rot victims

I never got the narrative that gyms should be one of the first things to open. Enclosed spaces often with no proper ventilation with people breathing heavily and sharing equipment. Surely should be one of the last things to reopen!

Going for a run and lifting weights at home is not good for you.  You have to do it under the supervision of a lad Charging you 60 quid a month to get the real health benefit. 

And it’s dangerous to cut your hair at home.  The repercussions of home hairdressing are unimaginable, and who is going to have to clean up the mess, only hairdressers.  

There seems to be a very big crossover between gym culture and the culture of the for profit wellness industry

The culture of the for profit wellness industry has a massive crossover with the culture of vacuous internet memes and faux-profound "inspirational" quotes

The culture of vacuous internet memes and faux profound quotes seems to have a very big crossover with the world of homeopathy and "alternative medicine"

The world of homeopathy and "alternative medicine" has a very big crossover with conspiracy theorising

It's all very white American and very weird 

It drove me mad when gyms were open here and pubs weren't! They are definitely the least safe space imaginable. Dogging is safer as at least it's outdoors. 

Excellent for fitness too, probably better than gyms

Dr Walkabout Coyne will have something to say about this 

Does he go to gyms? He hasn't mentioned it at all.

Gym culture has a fairly easy narrative to turn to when they wish to claim that they should be exempt, and that is the hubristic belief that they are important for both physical and mental wellbeing, and that they are different to pubs and restaurants, and that sports and live entertainment doesnt have the same intrinsic value in terms of outcomes. Its just another industry with an inflated view of its importance, especially if you buy a bike, and find some place to go running, you're totally covered.

The dazzling array of experts included;

Lee Hurst 

Anthea Turner 

'Tiger' Tim Henman 

Carol McGiffin (I will save you having to use Google, she's on Loose Women)

Matt Le Tissier 

Richard Madeley 

Twat! 

Not a great name for a minister to have to instill confidence in his decision making.  

His response will probably be I don’t really know.  

When he was at the MOD he was referred to as Private Pike by some of the staff 

Maybe I have it incorrect regarding the organising of the protest and if so I apologies. Anyway it doesn't seem like yesterday's protest had huge numbers, similar to some of the others in the country.

I just feel it is part of this 'both sides' argument which is prominent in liberalism and is, in my view, part of the problem!

Leftists(I hate this term) in general want to make society fairer for everyone. You can disagree with the methods, but that's the reality of it. It is the same sort of argument that implies Hitler was a socialist. 

Media has a vested interest in both sidesing, and thus platforming griters who don't believe what they say and are in the game of right wing grifting for profile and monetary gain

This is one of its biggest failings

That's absolutely true. The British media is sliding towards fascism while protesting about everything being 'left wing'.

Even look at the Irish Times

Falling over themselves yesterday to call the flat earthers in Cork "peaceful"

Always accentuate the "positive" about the nutcases

Unfortunately, in general, the right have won the culture war and those of us on the left need to assess why.

Great question PM.   My own theory is tone and that many people dont like being lectured to and the right provides easy answers and doesnt blame thr majority but blames the minority and others them.   Far more nuance on the left and being a decent person and giving people rights etc.  Simple slogans are more accessible.