International Elections Thread
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Topic: International Elections Thread
Posted By: sid waddell
Subject: International Elections Thread
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 7:10pm
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Belarus's definitely not a dictator Alexander Lukashenko has declared himself the winner of Belarus's definitely not fixed election with a whopping 79.7% of the definitely real vote Gemtrails, John Waters, Jim Corr and that definitely a real professor woman who says masks are tyranny will be well happy with that one Putin definitely got 76% of the definitely free and fair and definitely not fixed vote in Russia two years ago and Lukashenko has topped that in this definitely free and fair and definitely not fixed election Definitely not a fix! ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:27pm
| This is the thread YBIG's been missing for too long |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:44pm
The great thing about it is that it isn't country-specific It can be anything you want it to be - a bit like Mr. Definitely Not A Dictator picking his margin of Definitely Free And Fair victory ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Shedite wrote:Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:54pm
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Ah great! I see the 2017 UK General is back in the news.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 9:00pm
Indeed Corbyn was sold out by the Blairites who much preferred a wannabe fascist Tory government than a moderate centre-left European style government Mad the way the "unite the party rhetoric" only ever applies when its a centrist in charge As soon as a prominent left politician starts genuinely threatening oligarchs' hoarding of money it's "YOU'RE AN ANTI-SEMITE!" Yet these centrists and Tories are actually just fine with genuine, vile anti-Semitism
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 9:23pm
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You seriously need to get a hobby rather than reading about right wing governments Sid. Not even David Icke went this mad and he's up there on the fruitloop meter.
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 9:39pm
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I doubt Lukashenko does anything without Putins prior approval. Belarus is a bit of a joke of a country. Puppet state of Russia.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:21pm
Christ Just because people like you are perfectly happy to take it up the sh*tter from Boris Johnson, you shouldn't assume everybody is ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:27pm
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But I thought this thread was about Lukashenko so why you bringing Boris into it. You warped ****.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:29pm
Coyne take it easy ffs  ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:31pm
Well both are Kremlin puppets, so same difference ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:45pm
I was reluctant to press post after using those choice of words but every day it's a new topic or post about the same thing! I mean jesus christ. Does he not get bored?!
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:51pm
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[QUOTE=coyne]But I thought this thread was about Lukashenko so why you bringing Boris into it. You warped ****. [/QUOTEI got a ban for that.  At least I was trying to get banned. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 10:58pm
It's difficult not to get bored when you post ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:01pm
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Someone had to say it though! He made his point like a month ago, he thinks right wing governments are up on the up, that's his opinion and he's entitled to it but when you're brainwashing yourself and posting about it on an Irish football forum on a daily basis it turns into actual insanity. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:01pm
It doesn't matter if he does or not. It's a forum. You do have a habit Coyne of lashing out, playing the man rather than the ball anytime someone challenges your opinion on here tbh. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:08pm
It's a forum he can post what he wants on it. You like everyone else have a right to read it or ignore it, now it seems you have issues with what sid been posting recently so maybe best if you just ignored the threads and not read them. You say posting about it turns into actually insanity but replying to them to complain about it and how you think it's dumb/silly etc is just as equal signs of insanity as you letting yourself get annoyed by a post on a football forum from someone you know annoys you  ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:10pm
Was actually following this on Twitter today is mental how it all went down and now large part of Belarus is on lockdown with protests taking place. Some polling stations have been releasing the true results that actually see Lukashenko behind opposition candidate's. ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:11pm
Sure have a go at me but don't have a go at the rest of the forum who have had a go at him too! They're not hard to find, just check the Whatever section on a 24 hr basis. You'll find it's not just me it's pissing off
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:11pm
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:14pm
Em, you do realise this is the "Whatever" section, m8? The section is specifically here to discuss non-football topics So why are you posting here? If you've a problem with my views challenge them, say why they're wrong You haven't done so which leads to me to believe you have very little knowledge indeed of international politics Feel free to start a thread complaining about what other posters are writing Then maybe somebody else can start a separate thread complaining about your thread
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:17pm
Get f**ked. Multiple posters this week alone have called you out on this one. Get a life will ya.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:24pm
Oh look, Tory Brexit boy from Sunderland telling me to shut up I guess that's me told I thought you lot prided yourselves on being so called "freeze peach" warriors? I would have thought if anything signifies unintentional and completely self unaware irony it's somebody who spends all their time worrying about what somebody else on a forum is saying, and then tells them to get a life ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 11:34pm
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It'll be interesting to see what happens Mr. Definitely Not A Dictator seems intent on crushing these protests and it seems he has put some form of media blackout in place, possibly including the INTERNET Seems strange behaviour for a guy who won 80% of the vote in the Definitely Not Completely Fixed election https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1292569890545635328" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1292569890545635328 Reports of pro-democracy protests across Belarus tonight and extraordinary scenes in Minsk in particular. It seems that, this time, the people of Belarus aren’t willing to settle for a rigged election. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Deane
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 12:22am
| Some of the polling stations in Belarus had higher than 100% turnout |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 12:40am
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Vlad won't like this I wonder if more desert Mr. Definitely Not A Dictator, will the Russian tanks roll in Like all imperialists, Vlad believes he has a sphere of influence, ie. an imagined personal backyard where his cronies and his cronies only should rule, and if the little people start getting notions above their station, like not recognising the results of a Definitely Not Fixed "election" he hates it He hated when the people of Ukraine, Georgia and Chechnya got such "notions" and he hates that the people of the Baltic nations cut off the Russian thumb that was pressing down on them This is because he's a despot who has raped the Russian people and nation of its wealth and resources for personal gain and he fears being Ceaucescued, and thus anything in a former Soviet state that might give opposition in Russia hope has to be killed stone dead https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1292603149472223232" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1292603149472223232 Riot police in Minsk are sticking to president’s severe script — but in some regional towns it’s altogether different picture. Reports of riot police downing weapons + switching to the other side. Big question over next few days is which institutions will stay loyal to Lukashenko
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 1:52am
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Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are the most bizarre countries you'll ever come across. The Turkmenistan president wrote and sang this very catchy tune. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg17h5H9YUM" rel="nofollow - http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg17h5H9YUM 97% voted for him in the last election.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 9:50am
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My name is Luka(shenko) I live on the 22nd floor (in the penthouse, to be precise) I live upstairs from you (not true, I own the whole building) Yes I think you've seen me before If you hear something late at night Some kind of trouble, some kind of fight Just don't ask me what it was Just don't ask me what it was Just don't ask me what it was I think it's 'cause I'm clumsy I keep beating up on crowds Maybe it's because I'm crazy I think I fixed the vote too loud We only hit until you die After that you don't ask why You just don't argue anymore You just don't argue anymore You just don't argue anymore Yes I think I'm okay Got 99 percent again If they ask that's what I'll say It's not your business anyway I guess I'd like to have a throne So I can rule all on my own Just don't ask me how I won Just don't ask me how I won Just don't ask me how I won ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Yiksheemash
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 10:45am
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Brother lives in Minsk and just posted this on Facebook "For the first time in nearly 24 hours, I have internet as I am working from one of the offices. The internet is either severely curtailed or down altogether in many regions of Belarus. Viber, WhatsApp and other social media devices are all down. I have been hearing that there are roadblocks around Minsk. Safe and well here". fun times out there! ------------- In my country we fak, my wife she isa dead |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 5:21pm
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Protests at the Definitely Not A Fix! "election" are not going away, large crowds in the centre of Minsk and a nationwide strike underway https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1294301464752459777" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1294301464752459777 ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 3:28pm
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Mr. Definitely Not A Dictator has lost control, so he's turned to Big Brother and Mr. Definitely Not A Kleptocratic Imperialist Dictator And A Threat To Democracy And Freedom Abroad Expect the tanks to roll in soon https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1294612189576388608" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1294612189576388608 The Kremlin said Saturday that President Vladimir Putin and his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko agreed in a phone call that the "problems" in Belarus would be swiftly resolved
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 6:14pm
| It will all depend on the government workers. If they go out on strike then he won't last. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 7:14pm
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Cold blooded murder https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1294657077126758400" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1294657077126758400 Important.
https://twitter.com/euroradio" rel="nofollow - @euroradio published a video that shows how a peaceful protester was killed. The video shows that the man throws his arms out in front of riot police - and he has no bomb or any other object, as the Interior Ministry claims.------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 7:55pm
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A theory... Russian gas line to Europe runs through Belarus so Europe dependent on that to function
Putin has grown tired of the current fella and wants rid Putin needs an ‘event’ to justify intervention - intervention may be a bit more subtle than rolling in the tanks but that wouldn’t be off the table Putin will have operational groups on standby execute whatever plans he has planed while also encouraging the (extreme element of) the protests Putin gets his ‘event’. New (west friendly looking but a Vlad man) Belarus president in place before US election. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2020 at 9:15pm
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Some crowds protesting in Minsk today https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1295034288455458816" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1295034288455458816 Methinks Putin's little green men may not be far away though ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2020 at 3:24pm
| That speech where he was being booed was like Ceausescu in Romania. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 5:55pm
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All eyes on Minsk Massive crowds have gathered in the centre and are moving towards Lukashenko's Ceaucescu style palace Mr. Definitely Not A Dictator has arrived to the palace in a helicopter, brandishing an AK47 as a penis substitute Earlier reports were that he had fled from the palace, but it seems that is not true Army may be about to move in on the protests Who loves Belarus more, the freedom protestors or the Definitely Not A Dictator ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 10:47am
The president of Tajikistan won his election with 92% of the vote 
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 10:55am
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Crushing victory for Labour* in New Zealand *Labor Good to see competence rewarded in an environment where Murdoch media bullsh*t, and the hate speech it spouts, do not dominate NZ seems to be moving progressively to the left ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 11:02am
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 11:17am
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Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 12:45pm
There was an election? ------------- Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic." |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 1:04pm
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Epic interview by Tova O'Brien of New Zealand's NewsHub with far right politician Jami-Lee Ross She f**king defenestrates him https://twitter.com/NewshubNZ/status/1317602395761893378 ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 8:29am
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Luis Arce has put an end to the Trump-backed fascist regime of Jeanne Anez in Bolivia with an overwhelming first round victory ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:41am
Any chance we could exchange her for Claire Byrne? ------------- Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic." |
Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2020 at 11:47am
The President's son founded his own club, became the league's top goal scorer, was made captain and have won the league for the last six years in a row. In all that time, he was also elected Mayor of the capital.
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Posted By: sausy
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2020 at 11:59am
Istiklol ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dushanbe" rel="nofollow - - Shohruh Saidov . In 2008, Istiklol competed in the Dushanbe Group of the Second Division under the guidance of head coach https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kanat_Latifov&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="nofollow - - Tajik League . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Istiklol#cite_note-RSSSF-2" rel="nofollow - ------------- Bimbos Burgers - "Official Sponsor of the Irish Squad" |
Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 12:43am
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Uzbekistan, a country that boils people has been elected to the UN Human rights council
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 4:30am
So basically people in Essex would feel right at home
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 10:26am
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Chile has overwhelmingly voted to get rid of its Pinochet era constitution which was drawn up by the godfather of "libertarianism", James Buchanan and other neo-liberals The goal of it was to completely neuter democracy in Chile forever Shows mass protest works as the referendum was only held as a concession after the mass protests less than a year ago ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 10:45am
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Chile was never libertarian. Not even close. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:05am
Since Pinochet murdered his way to power, Chile has always been ranked as one of the "most free" countries in the world by "libertarians" That's because their definition of "freedom" and "liberty" has never encompassed such pesky things as freedom of speech or freedom to not be imprisoned for doing nothing Sure look at who's number three in the list of most free places on earth by the Cato Institute right now - Hong Kong https://www.cato.org/blog/new-human-freedom-index-us-15-new-zealand-switzerland-freest" rel="nofollow - https://www.cato.org/blog/new-human-freedom-index-us-15-new-zealand-switzerland-freest "Libertarians" have always eulogised Pinochet era Chile ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:08am
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What has Hong Kong got to do with Chile? Any libertarian who understands the ideology doesn't venerate Pinochet, for numerous reasons. At best its for the fig-leaf libertarians. Same types who applaud post revolution Somalia.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:26am
Well I would think Hong Kong and Pinochet era Chile would be quite comparable in that political freedom is and was, shall we say, not looked upon very kindly there, yet libertarians eulogise their "freedom" The whole "libertarian" cabal, from Buchanan to the Koch Brothers to the litany of right wing pseudo academic "institutions" in US universities like Chicago and the Hooover "Institution" at Stanford, to the Wall Street Journal etc in media, to gobsh*tes like Niall Ferguson and the British right-wing, including of course Thatcher, loved Pinochet The Pinochet era constitution was designed specifically by the American libertarian cult to destroy political freedom and enchain democracy within a set of constitutional constraints which prevented real democratic change This remained the case even after the monumental nationwide democratic effort to oust Pinochet in 1988 and has continued up to the present day ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:29am
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Again, not libertarian. None of that actually relates to libertarian philosophy. And Hong Kong's issues are not of its own makings. The fact that its affairs are being meddled in by another nation, one which has no interest in human rights (see its ranking in the link you provided), is the bigger issue. And you list another group of right-wingers who are not libertarian, and it is easy to pick apart why they aren't. And it doesn't matter who they venerate.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:39am
Well the libertarians think they're libertarian
Chile had its affairs meddled with by another nation and that was grand, said the libertarians What's the Mont Pelerin society if not libertarian? They all supported Pinochet You seem to be fascinated by the search for the one "pure", intellectually honest yet completely naive libertarian who may or may not exist on this earth - if they do they're probably stuck down the back of the Berkeley library in Trinners, smoking a joint and w**king to Ayn Rand with a dildo up their ass, actually, no - that's not intellectually pure as Ayn Rand was a so called "benefit scrounger" ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:43am
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Genuine libertarians wouldn't. I'm not looking for "purity". But there are fundamental consistencies which differentiate a libertarian from a conservative. "Well the libertarians think they're libertarian". So what? They can call themselves what they like, but if it doesn't accord with basic principles, it is a clear ideological fig leaf, to sit over bog standard conservatism, or alt rightism. Where did "the libertarians" say "that was grand".
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:54am
"Libertarianism" has always been a fig leaf for authoritarian right-wing crackpotism That's what it is You can live in reality or you can keep fooling yourself that you've not been played for an eejit ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:59am
Thats incorrect in an ideological sense. If you use it as a fig leaf, you never were in the first place. It falls off exceptionally quickly when conservatives etc discover that it requires open borders, civil rights etc. I often think on the other side of the fence, the more watered down left-wing ideologies are fig leafs for a highly statist approach. Its strange that it works in reverse, I suppose.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 12:11pm
You might as well be arguing for the "religious" aspects of Scientology and completely ignoring the cult bit ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 12:12pm
Not really. Bad analogy.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 12:24pm
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I think maybe the true, intellectually pure libertarian was that "Do What You Feel" guy in The Simpsons He's the guy to lead us to an intellectually pure "libertarian" paradise ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 12:26pm
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I wouldn't be interested.
But like I said, I'm not interested in ideological purity. But basic consistency. Not much to ask for.
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 11:16am
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Some win for the Ivory Coast President. 92%
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 10:15am
| A pro EU candidate has won the Moldovan election. A second region voted to break away like Transnistria if they joined the EU. |
Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2021 at 10:15pm
Italian government needs a new coalition partner. Silvio is the favourite.
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Posted By: Jackal
Date Posted: 26 May 2021 at 8:59pm
| Syria's Assad is up for reelection today. |