Asking for a friend. 

I must say, 2 weeks ago I’d have said no chance, now the signs are all positive and wouldn’t mind getting somewhere just to get away from the relentless doom and gloom from those in power. Let’s see how the rest of the month goes and could well tip off in August. I don’t mind staying here but when you can’t as much as go for a quiet pint in a regulated pub what’s the point?

Also, given the debacle that took place here, how is it more safe going on holiday here than say Portugal that had a fraction of the cases.

80 quid return to the Algarve. Even if you booked now you could wait and see and decide closer to the time. 

In my opinion it's a bad time to book something. 

That is going to be a risk wherever you travel in the next 12 months but naturally most pertinently in the short term. You also have the unknown of people travelling in from all corners of Europe and it is likely those that do holiday are the ones that are immune to social distancing. 

In hindsight, it was probably a bit rash saying August, but when 3 weeks ago a publican on Liveline was getting lambasted for suggesting he would open with the restaurants as he makes more from food than drink to the case now where the narrative has turned to holidays abroad, it shows you can’t really predict anything with this.

Cases averaged ~ 220 the 4 days after the May bank holiday. Since Monday they have averaged 38. Whilst I understand the caution, as long as amenities that are available in other jurisdictions remain closed here, people will travel and that needs to be addressed. Pubs being forced to remain closed is bizarre given the level of house parties. I know where I’d be more comfortable and where the virus is less likely to spread.

 

the UK 14 day quarantine is a joke especially Europe wise where they are the worst performing European country  - Greece circa 300 deaths UK excess deaths now at 67500   - if anything it should be the other way about - it will likely go after the initial 3 weeks

 

The irish one is window dressing and unenforceable

He drinks Stella by choice; Covid would be refreshing after that.

 

I was only thinking of you

That's only when you climb in 

Greeks are only opening to certain countries

UK has a mandatory 14 day quarantine.

It’s really bizarre but the best thing to do is look at each nations post-covid policies but yes a sunny holiday is possible if you want it.

A return trip to Ibiza is barely over £100 in July 

Dundalk in the sun baby!!! 

only problem with holidaying at home is a lot of the rural pubs will be closed. be f**k all life in certain areas in the west of Ireland. 

Dungloe (August) & Achill (Sept) for me. Been stuck in the house solo without seeing barely anyone in three months now. Can't wait

 

+1

Have sofia booked myself. Think Bulgaria are allowing 30% capacity at games now also so a slight bit of hope that we could even get into the stadium but as has been said on this thread things changing by the day/week.

I’d even fork out for abbey travel at this stage to see a live game.

Those games might have their dates changed. I'd be holding off on booking anything until they are confirmed

+2 

Have a hotel in Galway booked in August, hopefully things will be almost back to normal by then!

We're going to start in Cork hit Kerry for a few days then Clare and Galway from July 18th as missus has work booked off. Couldn't be arsed with worrying if flights will be cancelled or not or flying and seeing if everywhere is closed. I'd like to say we'll save money but prob not with the expense of Ireland!

I say Louisburgh  

It hasn’t a patch on Kilcar.

Louisburgh>Doolin>Carlingford 

Will do a few 3day weekends in Courtmacsherry and maybe a week in Blackwater in Wexford, that’ll be me for 2020

Bring your bowler hat with you Tommie in July.. the bretheren walk the beach on the Saturday before the glorious.. you can wind them up about us beating them in Belfast to qualify for the Euro's.

That’s bang out of order.

No, that's bgna. 

I agree, keep all you Dubs away from here!!!

Yeah 6 hour drive, should be fun 

All outdoors too, so risk should be minimal

. Starting to seriously think about Montenegro early August.

What about the flights and transfers?  Bars, breakfast in the hotel etc?  When people have drink onboard they won't give a toss about washing hands, social distancing etc

Yea haven't been in the office since March and not expecting to be back before Sept 

Well I'll be with my wife and 2 young kids so won't be on the lash, ryanair insisting on face masks, we'll have an entire row and 2 seats on the other side of the plane, probably won't be full either....  All inclusive buffet style meals so again social distancing should be manageable.... We still haven't decided if we're going or not,  but a few weeks ago I would've said no chance at all, things are changing rapidly now, so all I'm saying is I am no longer ruling it out entirely 

Fair enough but the thing with the virus is that you can pick it up off objects people have touched such as the pulldown trays on the flight, the toilet door handle, the seatbelts, the hotel room doors, remote controls etc.. Basically anything.  The virus lives mimimum of 5 days on hard surfaces so if it hasn't been thoroughly disinfected then you can get infected.   Did you say you had the virus on here a couple of months ago?

Yep buffet 

Never got tested but lost the taste and smell for about 2 weeks so presume I had it yea., going back about 10 weeks now at this stage, self isolated and all that. 

All of the above is fair enough but obviously some personal responsibility comes into play with extra hygiene and I presume and would hope the airline will be taking extra precautions, in relation to door knobs etc there is only so much someone can do, again it comes to down to individual responsibility 

I'd actually half consider a family holiday. If ya had a villa somewhere and weren't relying on restaurants/bars, and enough space around the pool, it mightn't be the worst

Question TJ , in the last 10 weeks have you gone outside your front door ? 

Door handles , seat belts , shopping trollies , and so on ????????

Some people in places like Spain / Italy want tourists (€€€) but I’m sure there are other locals who don’t want you there spreading your germs and enjoying themselves given the year.

I know a travel agent and she doesn’t expect things to return to normal until 2022. 

I think it'll be back to normal a lot sooner, I agree with the rest.

As I said I'll see what unfolds over the next few weeks, monitor TripAdvisor from July to get a better picture.... Truth be told nobody will want any foreigner in their country ever again but life goes on and things will return to normal 

I think it will be back to normal sooner for the people on the Ryanair / EasyJet flights.

Her business would cater to older people on the expensive trips.

Nobody is going to go on a cruise ship without a vaccine readily available and proper medical equipment (ventilators etc) on board.

Also business / corporate travel will be seriously reduced.

Tough times ahead for the tourist industry.

Business travel will return very soon I think. Travel agents will potentially gain a broader market share if they are marketing to tailor packages to ‘safe’ foreign holidays

Obviously I mean pre vaccine travel.

There will be travel pre vaccine in my view and depending on various checks and balances that's fine.  

Would you want a surgeon operating on you after flicking on the light switch, handling his phone and typing on the computer without washing his hands thoroughly and using sterile gloves?  There's a reason they dont touch tap handles with their hands before putting on gloves to operate.

Yes I go out for 2 reasons.  Shopping and exercise.  That's it.  If I exercise I run and don't touch anything on my way.  If I go shopping I bring gloves, mask, bottle of water and bottle of liquid soap and paper towels in the car and wash my hands after.  If I do shopping I don't bring my phone or wallet, just a credit card. Put on gloves after leaving the car and never touch my face or anything I need to be kept clean. I take them off after putting the stuff in the boot and throw them in the bin and wash my hands before I touch anything inside my car.  When I get home I bring in the groceries and wash the packaging with soapy water or dettol. I then disinfect the boot of the car handle that I touched with the gloves and car door handles.  I may also disinfect the steering wheel, radio and gearstick if I think they need doing.  Basically never touch anything I know is clean with used gloved hands and if I have to touch something like my credit card, keys ,boot door handle I disinfect straight away when I get home. 

If it sounds over the top it needs to be in this situation. That's how you minimise transmission.  I've seen people with gloves on in the supermarket handling all sorts and then answering their phone when it rings. Schoolboy error. 

Even in normal time I'd always try and keep my hands fairly clean especially if I am about to eat anything. If I am on a flight I'd usually wash my hands just before they serve out the meals.

sweet divine f**k  think you need to chill out TJ. this tops your ISIS posts from 2016 

Would you want a surgeon operating on you after flicking on the light switch, handling his phone and typing on the computer without washing his hands thoroughly and using sterile gloves?  There's a reason they dont touch tap handles with their hands before putting on gloves to operate.

Yes I go out for 2 reasons.  Shopping and exercise.  That's it.  If I exercise I run and don't touch anything on my way.  If I go shopping I bring gloves, mask, bottle of water and bottle of liquid soap and paper towels in the car and wash my hands after.  If I do shopping I don't bring my phone or wallet, just a credit card. Put on gloves after leaving the car and never touch my face or anything I need to be kept clean. I take them off after putting the stuff in the boot and throw them in the bin and wash my hands before I touch anything inside my car.  When I get home I bring in the groceries and wash the packaging with soapy water or dettol. I then disinfect the boot of the car handle that I touched with the gloves and car door handles.  I may also disinfect the steering wheel, radio and gearstick if I think they need doing.  Basically never touch anything I know is clean with used gloved hands and if I have to touch something like my credit card, keys ,boot door handle I disinfect straight away when I get home. 

If it sounds over the top it needs to be in this situation. That's how you minimise transmission.  I've seen people with gloves on in the supermarket handling all sorts and then answering their phone when it rings. Schoolboy error. 

Even in normal time I'd always try and keep my hands fairly clean especially if I am about to eat anything. If I am on a flight I'd usually wash my hands just before they serve out the meals.

Don't ever become a serial killer no one would catch you 

I'd imagine covid is the least of your worries. You have a higher chance of being killed by other means in santa ponza than covid.

Nothing booked, will wait till the end of August after everything has been open 6 to 7 weeks and see what way things are developing. Buying cheap now to save €100 or so and being stuck with more vouchers come end of August. I know which one i'd pick. 

Also most companies have updated their policies for coronavirus.

You may not be entitled to a refund now as you knew the risks.

Book through BSM holidays and enjoy a week in Dundalk. 

Upto last week we had very little in the country definitely manageable levels.

We were going to obviously see an bit of a spike once we opened up but once again should be manageable.

I feel we as a nation should choose not to go abroad for holiday purposes anyone doing so is being selfish.

There is enough todo here now to keep lads going not ideal I know but good enough in present circumstances.

But if it means we go backwards just so lads can have a few weeks in the sun  and as a result we are back looking at the 4 walls for the winter.

Or we can keep things are they are now and do as we are asked and have something like a normal winter I know which I would prefer.

If you were a local Spanish fella from Malaga, you'd be seriously annoyed at the thought of the infected British being allowed in. This is how every zombie film comes about, someone ignores the rules and let's the infected it.

9 grand!

You could book yourself onto one of those flights to Mars for that

It is a big price to pay if you are going on holiday in this country and spending a multiple of the cost of a foreign holiday. Especially those with families. 

As said, the government need to get their finger out and make a definitive call. Close the airports or take a chance risking a 2nd wave. 

 

Exactly - it's win-win to holiday domestically this year. Or at least it is for those of us who haven't booked anything abroad already. Those who have and will stand to get no refund from the insurance companies have a tough call to make.

And an even bigger price if you are unlucky enough to get Covid from going abroad.

Alternatively just leave off the holiday for the year and then cost is completely eliminated 

Nobody can say whether it’s a year, 2 years or 5 years with any certainty. So the suggestion by senior officials to do that doesn’t wash.

It’s up to the government to lead by example. Either allow planes fly (as is currently happening) or don’t. It’s ridiculous having the mixed messages. 

That's why they have set up the dating travel bridges with certain countries trying to match Covid suffering countries together. Nervous New Yorker seeks London travelmate enjoys ventilators and protests. 

Not sure who Ireland is been set up with yet

I know someone that's over there now for the summer and he said everything is open. 

Not really when the message is avoid non essential travel, but yeah it's a bit of a grey area message form the government. 

I was contemplating a short trip abroad but I think I'll wait till next year