That’s the one. Any idea when it is to air. Was nearly sure it was originally listed for 9.30 tonight. The election probably has it knocked back 

Probably put back to next week I'd say

Cant find it on the player

No was advertised to be on a couple of weeks ago but wasn’t listed for the date that was on the advert. No sign of it since. A two part. 

Any more on this? The filmmaker, Ross Whittaker (not the whistling guy), mentioned a possible broadcast date of mid-March on Twitter, but that was a while back.

The night of the Slovakia game ???

Add to more misery 

This has prompted me to rewatch The Charlton Years

Part 1 here.

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I believe at the time we were the smallest  country go get that far other than Uruguay. 

Costa Rica and Croatia have since done it with croatia getting to.the final 

Totally different competitions then to be fair. 

The saved header by Packie was phenomenal against England 

The miss by Aldo  on the volly v USSR was a terrible miss 

Robbed that day , and Galvin was taken down in box for a penalty never given 

Not sure the point of it.  No real new insight and the same people who have said the same.stuff before with.the same footage. 

Sweaty palms still watching the shoot out

I enjoyed it. Great days.  Never see the likes again.

That USSR game reminds me of Paris 2009.  We had them for the taking and just didn't have the ruthlessness of mind and belief to do it.

Sure it's been flogged to death but its still great 

Ironically I remember most of jacks match’s including friendlies like a photographic memory infact - new ones can’t remember to f**k 

Was gas really  going to Ireland match’s in middle of day on a Wednesday 

Jasus they done some boozing between games in 88 and 90....I know it was the done thing with teams from UK and Ireland at the time but surely Charlton would of toned in down in 1990 after coming so close in 88????

The next day they went out and won 5-0 with himself scoring 3 . He said it relaxed them and let off some tension 

Unfortunately Paul McGrath didn’t get off the bus the next day after more than a couple 

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Fckin hell, straight red now, not even a doubt. Great times, great memories. Can’t ever see anything like that happening again.

I think it is unlikely but not impossible. It would need Hagi to say something about Klopp in a pub Aldridge was drinking in though.

Did we ever concede a good goal in a tournament. 

Great days, they’ll never be repeated sadly 

Any time you have lads in the boot of the car going through the main streets of your capital street, has to be good.  

Neil 

Wonder what happens next. 

 

The nation stopped holding its breath............

Bertie tried to start a 2nd peace process but that ended badly, we ended up with the genesis report and we all lived happily ever after. 

I'm going to be pedantic and answer what was probably a rhetorical question. 

We didn't concede a decent one in 1988. 

We only conceded three in 1990 in total. Linekers was poxy. 

Gullits goal was good. Lovely one two on the edge of our area, burst of pace and neat finish. 

You could make an argument for the Italian goal being a decent flowing move but Packie's poor parry from Donadoni's shot categorizes it as a defensive error.  

Both Mexican goals in '94 were excellent finishes but the second one came from Irwin letting the ball bounce in the box so we'll rule that one out also. Hard to argue too much against the first one though. The less said the better about the Dutch goals in the last 16.

That's it for Charlton years in terms of goals against in major tournaments. 

Rodneytrotter wrote: Was gas really  going to Ireland match’s in middle of day on a Wednesday

What was the craic with games back then? I remember getting out of school and games being on, were they always Wednesday's at 3pm?

Were there a lot of half days being taken for games or did offices just close early for games?

Was it just one game per international break? Or were they just one offs sandwiched between weekends of domestic leagues?

Lansdowne didn't have floodlights  until 1993

Mick Byrne's mush in every TV shot. Jaysus there's a man who loved attention. Poxy physio though, hot & cold was the treatment given for all injuries. If your leg was in bits, he'd be the last man I'd want attending me.

Anyone remember the Howard Johnson hotel in Orlando for the Dutch game in '94 ( I stand corrected if wrong). That's where we had to get the tickets for that game I'm sure.Well there was a certain person's father in charge of selling the tickets... the rest is history 

Games were on Wednesdays with league games the previous weekend.  We had no floodlights. People had to take leave to watch them.  away trips often required a Saturday night stay to get reasonable flights.

Tickets for home games were really scarce although Belgium selling out in April 87 was a huge shock to me and others.  Luckily for me I block booked immediately after that.  

The finals were amazing.  Fantastic atmosphere and walking on air the whole time.  Went a little sour after Orlando in 94.  The abject humiliation of losing to the Dutch.  

 

I was just really talking about those two championships sorry. Some poxy luck with richochets, deflections and balls taking all sorts of deviations leading to goals

 

Was Dunphy actually crying before the Egypt game because of how much it meant to him with the GAA men all tuning in?

Always found it funny that noise he makes when he throws the pen down after the game

What was the weather like against the Dutch? 

I remember the Mexico game being like being in an oven, something like 120F at pitch level.

Watched the Charlton years yesterday and a lot of people saying that he should have left after the World Cup.

We actually started decently in the 96 qualifiers too but then from June 95 onwards it just went downhill drawing with Liechtenstein and losing to Austria twice 

 

Yeah it all went sour very quickly really. It was very much an aging team by that point.

Aye really was, Think Aldridge was about 35 or 36 at the time of playoff.

Looking at the 94 squad we had 4 players (outfield players) under 25 

Roy Keane (22), Phil Babb (23) Gary Kelly (19) and Jason McAteer (22).

Was one the big things Mick had to deal with when he took over was the amount of players over 30

Great times. Ireland was really innocent back then.

Afternoon games on a sh*te pitch, magic ! They really where mad innocent times 😃

Mick Byrne's "We'll do them for yiz today", a timeless line 

I can only imagine what it was like to be in Stuttgart that day.

Also, it never fails to amaze me how bad Cascarino's peno was 

That's an interesting stat about the age of our player at USA '94, no wonder the collapse in the following qualifying campaign was so dramatic.

One those that the pace beat the keeper more than anything else

Sure we had an injured 38 year old kevin moran.

Couldnt help noticing in some of the 88 pictures a future FAI Cup-Final referree decked out in green, pint glass in hand.

 

And the other thing was the point made by Declan Lynch where he said that this period was the first time ordinary people actully borrrowed money to spend on themselves rather than out of necessity. Id imagine the younger generation might find that difficult to imagine a time when credit/credit cards were only available to a small cohort of the public.

yeah i remember the 'late late show' he says the fai have employed jack charlton as new manager , if that means anything to anyone.....i hated him after that...last night he did say before an interview 'i;ve never met the man'....then the GAA men all over the country couldnt wait to book flights to italy 

good program.... i was i germany, great memories

Weather wasn't the issue v the Dutch.  It was significantly cooler.  Mexico game was insane even sitting in the crowd was tough.  Had to sit in the dark at half time.  Dutch game was just very pleasant weather wise.  We were making plans to get to Dallas for the quarter final.      

I was at the Mexico game myself so I remember that really well. IFIRC the seats were metal or at least a form of plastic which just absorbed the heat.

Will the documentary continue past Charltons time?

And none of this Campervan champagne travellers.

I love the stories of lads driving all the way to Italy and sleeping in the car. Calling home for more money to be sent over and telling work they will be away for another week! 

 

Yep.

 

Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead - London - Folkstone - Ostend - Brussels - Milan - Rome - Cittavecchi - Cagliari. Inter Rail all the way......

Was it aldridge that took a dump in o Leary’s shoe ?

Binoculars 

JUICEBOMB wrote: anytime I look at it the more I think Bonner should of done much better with Schillacis shot in 1990....it really was bad goalkeeping.

Was absolutely shockin!  Not to mention Jonk's goal in 1994.

Still I suppose we have to give him credit for Romania.

The jonk one I can give him...he was finished at that time and the back pass rules had him screwed...but the schillaci one was awful,straight at him,mid drift,near postish...he could of palmed it down and collected it or push it out for a corner.

He somehow managed to stumble way out of the goal too so had no chance for the rebound.

The ball fell nicely for toto.

I’m fairness the goal was in the first half so we had plenty of time to get back into it. Beaten by the better team on the day. 

Any of our players today should take encouragement from Aldridge and do whatever star player Slovakia have ha 

Any ybiggers spot themselves from back in the day?

Get a vpn set it to Ireland and go to the rte player 

A young Proud and Loud was on it twice. It was probably the last time he was seen with a head of hair.

I'd take a guess that Scotland still bear a grudge over that. If either us or the Dutch had scored a winner and it had finished 2-1, there'd have been a three way draw between Austria, Scotland and either us or the Dutch to see who got the single last 16 spot remaining, because all three would have had identical records. But because of the luck of drawing into the group that played last, we knew we were grand with a draw, so that's the way it ended.

Of course, if Egypt had equalised against England, all four teams would have been together on exactly the same record, across the board. Then all four places would have been determined by random draw. At least now they use fair play points.

 

Now may have been pass the ball around near the end but goodness the mother of all parties after the game .

Was on a camp site where it was half and half with the Dutch now fair play to the owers they had it all set up food and drink and loads of it and one hell of a night and morning .

 

Campsite in Cefalu ?

 

At the start of the show it showed the team singing on the late late show, we are the boys in green, but pretty sure that was before Italia 90.

Michael Carwood and Boys in Green was the Euro88 song.  Still my favourite football song.  There was a version for Italy as well.

Even as a child, obsessed with all things football, it made me cringe in a way that has never been equalled. I’m sure it would have been used in Guantanamo.

I'm sure you loved this one. The greatest football song, no actually, THE GREATEST SONG EVER COMPOSED. 

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Johnny Aldridge, showed the Maltese

That he hasn't lost his touch

He's holding back now

For the craic now

Until the day we get revenge on the Dutch

Ronnie Whelan, Had them reelin'

The Russians have confirmed it as a fact

To ensure that they don't meet Ireland

They're trying to change the Warsaw pact

I don't think it's possible to cede possession and also apply constant pressure. Unless you're happy to frantically chase and harry your opponent all over the pitch without any intention of actually winning the ball. 

 

Eh? That was our game plan under Charlton for the guts of a decade! Boot the ball up into the corner (cede possession) and then chase after it (applying pressure). I believe there may even have been a technical term for it, what was it again, oh yeah, 'putting 'em under pressure'!

Yeah I think I'll have to take that one on the chin. That's what I get for being needlessly pedantic. 

 

Always thought that line was - daddy hasn't lost his touch

Sounds like a line Jimmy Saville would write

We were a more catholic country then.

Another favourite of mine

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We drove over 10K Kms around Italy along in the month and had all the WC songs blaring. Started in Cagliari and finished in at the final in Rome.  Only one song for Euro88 but quite a few for Italia90.  Still have the tapes somewhere.  Michael Carwood's was on vinyl.  

Two very different tournaments in many ways.  Euro88 was one for the football people of the country.  The rest of the country didn't realise it was on until the England game.  Italia90 was for everyone.  Loads who had never been to Lansdowne Road travelled to Italy.      

 

The idea of 88 being for football people may seem odd to the younger generation considering how the game has grown nationwide over the past 30 odd years. I do know what you mean though. Nearly ever person i knew who was in Germany in 88 was a LOI regular. By 94 the majority of them had fallen away from the international team but stayed with the LOI, some of them became and remain hostile to the international team. Meant to add that the manner in which tickets for the Wembley game in 91 were distributed caused a lot to turn away.

Not just the LoI though.  People in rural Ireland involved in junior clubs some of whom had picked broken glass out of goalmouths not too long before that.  I got the impression that almost everyone in Germany was either part of the football community or part of the massive diaspora that had followed us away for many years before that.

The bandwagon was rolling for Italy.  There were thousands locked out of the Egypt and Netherlands games.

Tickets became a huge issue then.  There were block bookings for years beforehand but no need for them.  My Dad had let our lapse in the early 80's as often different numbers at games.  After  a scare re Belgium 87 secured mine for Italia90 campaign.  Spain 89 was on general sale but loads of regulars missed out and Malta & Hungary were really tough.  After that it took years to get in (opened up briefly in 92  IIRC).  Huge issues with Wembley in 91 as you say all right the other away games were ok from what I recall.     

 

 Don't think so CH from what i remember it was an inner city campsite