Ireland U17s thread
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Topic: Ireland U17s thread
Posted By: nvidic
Subject: Ireland U17s thread
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:09am
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Apologies if thread on this but couldn't find it. Host venues announced today; Carlisle Tallaght (2 Ireland group games) Tolka Whitehall UCD City Calling RSC (1 Ireland group game) Draw is April 4 |
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Posted By: foggy.nelson
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:30am
Tickets were supposed to go on sale Friday.  |
Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 11:00am
| Nothing anywhere near the west of the country is a strange one thought they would have spread it out a bit, shocked theres nothing in TC and would have liked a game in galway. |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 11:07am
UEFA has a rule where each venue has to be within a certain radius of the team hotel, which is CityWest, surprised the RSC was and Terryland wasn't within it mind.
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The White Cafu wrote:Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 11:11am
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RSC is a 153km Deacy Park is 209km ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: daveyc
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 12:01pm
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Is there a deal for ST holders?. Thought i saw something a while back regarding entry to this |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 12:10pm
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Posted By: smart man
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 9:09pm
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One game in City Calling but Ireland won't be playing. Wonder will the locals buy into that. ------------- alive and kicking |
Posted By: boots9
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:03am
| Will the ireland season ticket just get you free entry to the ireland matches or all matches? |
Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:35am
Has it been said the season ticket will be accepted for these games. With it been a uefa tournament it might not be ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: ontheball
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2019 at 7:56pm
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At friendly at RSC V Finland, nil all at half time. It will go to a penalty shootout irrespective of the result.
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Posted By: ontheball
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2019 at 8:16pm
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Finns gone a goal up. Barry the Bodhrán made his first appearance as the official under 17s Euro Finals mascot. It's all excitement here at the RSC!
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Posted By: ontheball
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2019 at 8:58pm
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Finishes one nil to the Finns here.
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Posted By: CillDara
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 7:12pm
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Group A: Republic of Ireland, Belgium, Czech Republic, Greece Group B: Netherlands, France, England, Sweden Group C: Iceland, Portugal, Hungary, Russia Group D: Spain, Italy, Germany, Austria
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Posted By: johnvonp
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 7:20pm
| Do we have a chance to do well in this? Taking into account we're probably not going to have Parrot and some other decent players. Recent results vs Finland weren't great |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 7:31pm
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Interesting that only ourselves and England have recently qualified for 17s/19s tournaments amongst our neighbors. |
Posted By: JoxerDaly
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 7:37pm
| Should qualify if we have all our eligble players, Parrott, Bazunu and Okoflex will all be big losses if not playing. |
Posted By: 10 Box
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 8:56pm
| Done well to avoid groups B & D |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 12:30am
| Tickets only a fiver. Good few games in tallaght including f2 of ireland's and the final so handy one for me. |
Posted By: Pauldaly1984
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 10:58am
Is oxoflex still playing with us or what
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Posted By: johnvonp
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 11:24am
Nope, he isn't. O'Brien confirmed that Bazunu will play if fit. Will know if Parrott can play after talks with Spurs over the next few weeks.
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Posted By: JoxerDaly
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 12:50pm
He hasnt played for us in over a year and hasnt played a competitive game for English either so not sure what the crack is.
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 1:34pm
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Personally think Parrot should play for the 19s as we’ve a very good chance of doing well in an eight team tournament. Wouldn’t be much harm with him training with the senior squad in Portugal either but I think that clashes with the 19s tournament. The current 17s don’t seem as good as previous years, but that may be because they’ve only played friendly games for the past few months in preparation for this tournament. With that being said, we should be hoping to make it out of the group stage with it being a home tournament, but it’s hard to judge the quality of other three teams in the group I think.
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Posted By: valo88
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 5:08pm
u17s Euros is first 2 weeks of May. Senior training camp in last 2 weeks of May. Toulon Tournament is first 2 weeks of June. u19s Euros is last 2 weeks of July. Parrot is currently injured however and Colin O'Brien said yesterday doesn't think he'll be available for the u17s.
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Posted By: valo88
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 5:10pm
Considering tournment hosts are always A1, we did yeah
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Posted By: smart man
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 1:57pm
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Sean McEvoy club Ballinamallard are in the IFA cup final. Wonder will he be released to play in cup final if he makes the squad. ------------- alive and kicking |
Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2019 at 4:40pm
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fixtures-confirmed-for-u17-euros" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 8:05am
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Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 10:26am
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Qualifiers starting in Cork today with Montenegro v Isreal in Cobh at 3pm and Rep of Ireland V Andorra at 7.30 in Turner's Cross. Some of the security requests from the Isreal FA seem to be way OTT, apparently they requested to know the religion of every staff member in the hotel, glad to say the fai rejected this request and sent them on their merry way
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Posted By: Left foot
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 12:53pm
Well anti-semitism is a serious issue and isreal is very much a target. These are children under 17 so you can blame them for being extra cautious really. I agree that it's an awful thing to request but that seems to be where we are at the moment.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 12:57pm
Did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 9:41pm
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Routine 6-0 win, stand out performances from Sinclair Armstrong and Ben McCormack. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 9:34am
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Do we have a thread for the U17s? If so can this be moved there but they just had the draw for the 2021/22 UEFA U017s and here's who we drew:  No word yet on when they are to be played but you'd have to be confident we can do well here. EDIT Cheers mods. To add, top two and 4 best 3rd places advance so that should be a penalty-kick for us.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 11:15am
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So again, this seems to be the 2022 competition for players born after 1/1/05. Before then we will have the qualifiers for the 2021 tournament in March next year. For that we are in with Slovakia, Estonia and the North with only the winners qualifying for the finals. So between this and the under 19s we will have qualifiers for the 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 age groups taking place next year as well as the under 21 qualifiers for anyone born after 1/1/2000.
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 1:03pm
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would it not be the 2004 age group? ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 7:40pm
| The 2021 tournament will be for the 04 group. The 2022 tournament, which is what today's draw related to, is for the 05 group. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 8:00pm
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Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 2:40pm
Squad announced for two games v Mexico in Turner's Cross this Sunday and Tuesday: Some interesting names here and I'd pay in to see Zefi for sure.
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Posted By: Howdo
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 3:05pm
The Indo trying to stir it regarding Zefi potentially declaring for Albania, haven't heard from him, other than how proud he is to play for us https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/inter-milan-youngster-kevin-zefi-named-in-ireland-u-17-squad-for-friendly-double-header-40812104.html |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 3:12pm
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Yeah, such nonsense. Journos looking for a clickbait angle to draw in the Grealish/Rice PL supporters, and insult the intelligence of the rest of us. The squad and upcoming games is the story so report on that FFS. Anyway, seems we have three games in October against Poland, N. Macedonia and Andorra. Dates and times to be finalised. And how great would it be if the FAI broadcast them on YouTube and showed some interest... |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 3:21pm
600 tickets available for each match ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 4:51pm
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Very interesting squad. Curtis and Heffernan at the back would be highly rated I think, as would Ferizaj in midfield. The real aces are up front I think, McLoughlin is with Villareal and Zefi with Inter Milan. Have I missed anyone else? Seems to be a good crop of prospects at U21 level and U19 level and defo seems to be a few here too.... Best of luck lads. |
Posted By: CillDara
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 5:07pm
| Interesting that 3 of the 20 man squad are of Albanian parentage, I don't think I've ever even met an Albanian person in Ireland. Zefi obviously the star but Ferizaj meant to be rated very highly as well. |
Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 5:26pm
Ferizaj and Zefi are cousins. He wont be long behind him moving to a big club. Himself and Curtis were on trial with Roma and Leverkusen over the summer there. It is a bit mad theres 3 players of Albanian descent in the squad, along with so many players of African descent we've had repent us through the various age groups but yet there been so few Polish, which is probably the biggest minority group in Ireland.
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Posted By: Howdo
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 5:31pm
Possible reason why so few Polish declare is that the parents tend to go back to Poland or elsewhere with the family after a few years in a lot of cases. |
Posted By: gazurtoids
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 5:38pm
| Poland for such a big country has never been a big exporter of top young talent so not hard to see why there's no conveyer belt for those living here.....odd thing is they always have pretty good players ...but they only seem to emerge as adults |
Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 6:44pm
Very good point. Also thinking about it again, the Polish community only began to move here post 2000 and only really began to grown probably post 2004 when they joined the EU so a lot of their children wouldn't be really old enough yet. We might see a couple begin to emerge in next few years as they reach u15/16s and u17s level. Where as with the African community example I gave, they began to move here a couple years earlier in the mid 90s on wards, didn't they? As for the Albanians, Id be guessing but they possibly moved here during the Balkans wars of the 90s / early 2000s. |
Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 6:58pm
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Yeah looking at the most recent u15s and 16s squads there and we've Olaf Boruc (Shamrock Rovers) Hugo Gwiazdowski (Shamrock Rovers) Patryck Swieczka Andrzejczak (Cork City) Off the bat, so I suspect that is the case and we'll see more over the next few years. Couple other Latvian and Lithuanian beginning to show up too.
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Posted By: Donegalman
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 7:11pm
Rocco Vata, only 15 if I’m correct and starts every game in the Celtic B team. It’s obviously not the best of standard but he’s playing regularly against adults at that age it should stand to him.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 8:36pm
So what you're saying is that we need to start scouting Polish youth teams for Irish born talent - not an avenue I'd have thought of before but we seem to source youth players from the strangest places these days so you'd never know.
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Posted By: Howdo
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:18pm
Not what I was implying but now that you say it, I think that’s a great idea, you never know, we might unearth an O’ Lewandowski |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2021 at 12:14pm
Here's today's team playing Mexico again: Great showing last day so hoping for more of the same. And fair-play to the locals for coming out in some numbers. |
Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2021 at 5:10pm
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A disappointing day for the under age sides. The U17's went down 2 nil at home to Mexico and the U21's dropped points in their qualification group with a 1-1 draw away to Luxembourg. The U17's beat Mexico a few nights ago so they have a win and a loss from that series of games which isnt too bad. The U21's had a great result winning away to Bosnia but left 2 points behind them today. With Italy and Sweden in our group, we really need to be winning games away to Luxembourg. Hopefully the senior team get a better result out there!
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2021 at 5:58pm
| Usually the first game in these series of two at 17s level is where the first XI is played, we won that one vs Mexico so wouldn't be too concerned. |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2021 at 12:14pm
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U17's await their Elite Round opposition and the draw is shortly, I believe. Meanhwhile, the draw for the next comp Qualifying round was made, and they will face the following teams in the first group stages: Norway Belarus Armenia. Same story with top two progressing and hopefully the next crop of 17's can get out of that group. |
Posted By: kevin100
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2021 at 12:27pm
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I would rate the U17s currently higher then the U19s if I'm being honest. Maybe I rate them too highly but I was even slightly dissapointed they didn't beat Poland and get a box seat draw so to speak in Pot 1. They were the 9th ranked team so just missed out. They should have beaten Poland inexperience and needing only a draw worked against them. I'd be dissapointed if they didn't qualify now as they are a decent crop. I'm happy the U19s got to the elite round which is the Top 28 teams currently as they wouldn't be as good overall as the 01/02 born lads or the 05/06 born lads in the 17s for me.
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Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2021 at 12:47pm
| U17's are weaker outfit though if Zefi has been moved to the U19 squad. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2021 at 1:07pm
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Adam Murphy(2005) has been out injured for a while. He’ll be part of u17 team,possible captain. Top quality player who’ll make up part of the missing of Zefi ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 4:46am
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My Dad is best mates with Adam's Dad, has always spoken about the quality he has. Be interesting to see how he progresses at Pats over the next couple of years. ------------- Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic." |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 11:17am
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U17 (and U18) 2021 review....worth a watch, and will post the links to the 19's and 21's in their threads in a sec. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ-20m8Tetg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ-20m8Tetg Interesting we'll have an U17 double-header in February in preparation for the Elite phase games in March. Sorry, another edit - so U18's will become a competitive age-group this year. More internationals at underage can only be a good thing, and the gap between U17 and U19 is significant, so a proper U18 setup will bridge that nicely and give more players a chance to shine on the International stage. |
Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 3:45pm
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Seems like there was an U18 squad announced today for some friendlies in Feb. Does that squad need it's own thread on here now?
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Posted By: J89
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 4:02pm
| Could probably combined it with this thread given Colin O'Brien is head coach of both teams. |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 4:05pm
My understanding is that the 22/23 season will be the first where the U18 category will be competitive (as in, recognised underage caps and a real competition, as opposed to non-competitive/binding friendlies). Is Colin O'Brien now the U18 manager and we will backfull the U17 coaching team? |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 4:21pm
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Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 4:36pm
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I'd be interested to see the squad if anyone has a link to it |
Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2022 at 5:19pm
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Under 17 squad - Zefi drops back down. SQUAD ANNOUNCEMENT GOALKEEPERS FINTAN DOHERTY | CONOR WALSH DEFENDERS SAM CURTIS | CATHAL HEFFERNAN DAN MCHALE | SEAN MCHALE | LUKE O'BRIEN IVAN SAVSHAK MIDFIELDERS JUSTIN FERIZAJ | DARIUS LIPSIUC JAMES MCMANUS, SENAN MULLEN | ADAM MURPHY | ROCCO VATA FORWARDS THOMAS BLOXHAM | CADEN MCLOUGHLIN MARK O'MAHONY | GIDEON TETTEH FRANCO UMEH | KEVIN ZEFI |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2022 at 5:24pm
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Thomas Bloxham is a new name and I see he's played underage for the Three Lions. Welcome aboard! |
Posted By: Hotlips_Hoolahan
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2022 at 6:02pm
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Posted By: greenshoots
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 9:14am
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Bloxham has even captained England at U15 level before, so obviously well thought of at the time. I wonder what his connection to Ireland is? |
Posted By: King_Kenny
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 10:27am
He’s Harvey Neville’s second cousin.
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Posted By: Fozzy B
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 1:58pm
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Uefa Elite Qualifier Portugal U17 v Ireland U17 KO 3.00 pm 1. Conor Walsh 2. Sam Curtis 3. Luke O'Brien 4. Ivan Savshak 5. Cathal Heffernan (C) 18. Darius Lipsiuc 6. Justin Ferizaj 15. Adam Murphy 10. Roco Vata 9. Mark O'Mahony 7. Kevin Zefi |
Posted By: Fozz
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 2:51pm
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Very strong lineup. get watching here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t66NkR80PMU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t66NkR80PMU |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:06pm
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Had a great chance there but needed to be hit across goal. Portuguese defence look shkey
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Posted By: ProudAndLoud
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:19pm
| Bollixxxx great goal |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:19pm
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1-0 down great goal it has to be said
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Posted By: SC92
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:20pm
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1-0 Portugal. Cracking goal tbf. Had been pretty even until then. |
Posted By: J89
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:20pm
| Bazunu wouldn't have saved that. |
Posted By: GreenDodger93
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:22pm
| I watched from minute 11 up until minute 18. I seen Ireland complete 4 passes in 7 minutes and then concede... back to work |
Posted By: Badgersboys9
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:28pm
Great synopsis, cheers.
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:34pm
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Zefi trying the ridiculous
Our two fullbacks have been very poor and the keeper needs to speak to his defence. They are the better team since scoring, I thought we were probably edging it til then
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Posted By: Banjaxed
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:34pm
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Zefi acting the bollocks there with a rabona Maybe when you're winning, pal
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Posted By: SC92
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:34pm
| Zefi is fun to watch, can beat defenders for fun. |
Posted By: Banjaxed
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:36pm
| Portugal cutting through midfield with ease. |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:45pm
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We’re doing alright, Zefi capable of magic, it doesn’t need to work every time for him, he’ll learn. Great header for the one ruled out for offside there
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Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:48pm
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I think we have butchered a few chances. They have a bit of extra quality which has been the difference. They have a couple of very good players. |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:49pm
| Now that’s disappointing. Center half made a complete bollox of it |
Posted By: Banjaxed
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:49pm
| That Bulgarian bloke looks like David Luis and also has a clanger in him like the man himself. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:49pm
| Jesus he needs to be hooked. Has been AWFUL the whole half. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:49pm
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Posted By: Badgersboys9
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:50pm
| 2 down. The back line looks weak, our no.4 having a very poor game. |
Posted By: Eoink21
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:50pm
| 2-0. I had thought Shavsak looked nervy but he completely misread a Portugal clearance when he was last man back, allowing a Portuguese player to collect the ball behind Shavsak and run clean through. |
Posted By: 10 Box
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:50pm
What a clanger by our CH..worthy of the Luiz like barnet.
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Posted By: Bandwagon
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:51pm
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CMs and CBs looked very weak in that half. Nobody closing down your man for the first and that cock up just there after the counter. Portugal undoubtedly the much better team but we're better than this.
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Posted By: ripbomb
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:52pm
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:54pm
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Awful goal to concede. Won’t come back from that ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: Heimatklange
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:56pm
| we matched them but made some very poor mistakes. zefi is going to be a superstar for us. |
Posted By: 10 Box
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 3:56pm
| Portuguese bigger & stronger in midfield. We don't look too bad in possession but need to be better in the final third. That 2nd goal is a killer though..could get ugly if we concede a third. |
Posted By: SC92
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 4:05pm
| Portugal clearly a good team. Our midfield has been invisible and defence prone to errors. I like our attacking players though if we could get them the ball more often we would be more likely to score. |
Posted By: Banjaxed
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 4:05pm
| Definitely some poor decision making in the final third. Not a chance of getting back into given how we've defended. |
Posted By: Nialler
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 4:05pm
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I don't see this team collapsing after 3 they are generally very good. We have defended poorly and our full backs have been ghosted passed a few times. We were behind to a great goal but had done ok going forward when we did get into the final third. They have a few very classy lads who look about 23. Their 15 looks a player playing way out of his age group. Not beyond the realms of possibility that we get a goal before 60 and turn this back into a contest. Heffernan has also been poor and hard to see him playing pro football like a few of these never mind for Milan.
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