Nottingham Forest under Martin O-Nil / Fallout Boy
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Topic: Nottingham Forest under Martin O-Nil / Fallout Boy
Posted By: Trap junior
Subject: Nottingham Forest under Martin O-Nil / Fallout Boy
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 7:36pm
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Preparing this thread for the train wreck that will occur down the tracks for the gruesome twosome. On Live on Sky tonight away to West Brom. 8pm KO.
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Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 7:52pm
| Think they could be in for a hammering tonight |
Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 8:10pm
| Martin O’Neill football genius |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 8:10pm
Winning 1 nil  there’s already a Martin O Neill thread. 
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Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 8:35pm
but, wait If MON is a genius that means we're ....................................complete and other sh1ttttt
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:20pm
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1-1 currently ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:21pm
Forest got a poxy O.G. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
9fingers wrote:Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:24pm
Arrgh Forest 2-1 up now. Shoddy shoddy shoddy workmanship. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:52pm
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2-2 FT ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:52pm
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You’re one sad f**k
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:52pm
Don't quit the day job TJ ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:53pm
Never a penalty.Terrible decision.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 9:55pm
Yes. My sole purpose is to see that villain MON brought to justice for his sh*te football. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 10:15pm
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The thread title ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 4:15pm
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Had a look at their recent results a mixed bag but wasn't sure of which one was his first game? How's the O'Neill and Keane reunion gone down with Forest fans? ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 5:20pm
Most are hopeful that they will do well under MON. Most willing to give him a chance. Already a few giving out about the style of play being industrious and so far MON has failed to pick their most creative midfield player in any of his 4 games which has gone down with bemusement. They seemed happy enough with their last performance against West Brom. Thei roevious game against Birmingham was meant to have been a sh*t show though. They lost that 2-0. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 5:22pm
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Martin O'Nil ffs
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 12:35pm
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only noticed the 0-Nil just thought it was a typo, brilliant ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 6:04pm
Living up to his name. Stalemate today for Martin O-Nil ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 6:59pm
A good point given Preston's form. Cost me a nice bet too. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: whitesideOnside
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:12pm
Particularly as Forest don't have the players they used to, and haven't for quite some considerable time you know. A young Nigel Clough would be a huge benefit to scoring goals, huge.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:16pm
Now now PM don't be upsetting TJ's narrative ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:23pm
Yes they haven't the players. He's working miracles with them really. If only he had a young Nigel Clough and Franz Carr. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:28pm
These wild accusations that I am somehow anti MON are both hurtful and wide of the mark given how I have always stood up for him when he was EIRE manager ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:39pm
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It seems they had a good goal disallowed too. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:44pm
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Happy Days... ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:48pm
Shane Duffy header? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2019 at 12:32am
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2 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats, mid table mediocrity. Suits him down to the ground.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2019 at 2:20am
Think its only 1 win ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 7:27pm
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Martin O-Nil's Nottingham Forest playing Frank Lampard's Derby County live on Sky Sports Hoofball at 7.45pm. Trap Junior's Score prediction: 0-0 ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 7:59pm
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That prediction lasted long Forest scored in the first minute
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:00pm
------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:03pm
Martin  |
Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:12pm
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Forest are looking very well motivated, classic stage 1. Stage 2 : more motivation Stage 3 : some more............motivation Stage 4 : Roy Keane calls someone a coont. Stage 5 : Does the emperor have no clothes? Stage 6 : wheels come off/pay off...they're off |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:17pm
Forest with 27% possession at home ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:27pm
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At this moment in time they are 3 points from a playoff spot. I wouldn't be surprised if this cowboy gets them promoted. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:29pm
The meltdown from TJ would be something else ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 8:38pm
Karanka had them in the top 6. They have regressed under Radioactive Man and Fallout Boy ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:10pm
He may have but they are currently 1 point closer to the playoffs than they were when Karanka left them  According to wiki... Nottingham ForestOn 8 January 2018, Karanka returned to the Championship after being appointed as manager of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Forest_F.C." rel="nofollow - Nottingham Forest . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aitor_Karanka#cite_note-ForestIn-28" rel="nofollow - [28] One year and three days later, he departed the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Ground" rel="nofollow - City Ground after having asked to be released from his contract; he left the team in seventh position, four points behind the play-off places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aitor_Karanka#cite_note-29" rel="nofollow - [29] ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:21pm
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I see that Waghorn coont is still a sneaky little rat ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:47pm
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That Lolly lad looks a decent player ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:51pm
He hasn't a lick of pace ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:59pm
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Gets himself out of some sticky situations sweet right foot too ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:00pm
Was getting plenty of stick off the Derby fans ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:05pm
Karanka was sacked for not being in the playoff positions! ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:05pm
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Well not to sugar coat it but he is loved by the merrymen anyway he seems to get plenty of confection of them ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 10:42pm
Rumour has it the toffees are after him ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 4:54pm
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Lost 2-0 to Stoke today who are barootal! Where is that clown UWally today? Played absolutely turgid stuff according to their fans forum. Most of their performances have been under the gruesome twosome. Puts their 'big win' against Derby into some context today who are getting hammered 4-0 by Villa.
This is turgid. |
Re: MATCHDAY 35: Stoke City v Nottingham Forest
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 12:59pm
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Its all gone very quiet from my forum friends ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 1:17pm
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some slithers on here alright TJ ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 4:52pm
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Stunning performance today
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 5:19pm
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I just got word that Hull City had a swine flu epidemic and had to field their U-12s to avoid being docked points for a no show ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 5:21pm
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MON ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:18pm
2-1 down currently. Agent Marty winning the fans over though
What the f**k have we been working on in training we could get hammered here! |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:53pm
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:58pm
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TJ posting on the Forest boards now. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:05pm
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3-1 to Villa currently ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:07pm
They will all be TJs after a few more games of hoofball ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:11pm
DM? ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 9:17pm
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2 points dropped today against bottom of the table Ipswich. Absailing down the league table. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:26am
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Oh dear. The Forest fans just seem to be realising now that MON isn't all that he is made out to be by the British media. All the articulation and tipping the glasses up the bridge of the nose portrayed the image of intelligence and sophistication. Underneath it all beats the heart of a neanderthal.
How do you reckon O'Neill's interview went where he "blew away" Marinakis? I think I've unearthed a transcript: |
Originally Posted by Gingers Across the Midfield
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?Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 7:33pm
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Another outstanding comeback today. Martin
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 8:46pm
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Just some posts from a long line of complaints from Forest fans about MON and his hoofball. Fluked a win today playing absolute Dinoball. And they were so positive about his appointment only a month ago and now its full scale outrage at this dinosaur.
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Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 3:11am
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Martin |
Posted By: Croftman
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 9:24am
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Sounds familiar alright ------------- Some people just deserve a slap |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 10:46am
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TJ he's gone from the Ireland job McCarthy had us playing nice football against Georgia You have to let go...
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 10:54am
The amount of lives irreparably damaged by his reign will last forever. Martin moves on. Ireland can't. I have PTSD from it. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 12:19pm
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------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 3:46pm
The excuses being trotted out already |
Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 3:52pm
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Martin O-Nil superb ------------- "I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that." |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 4:57pm
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That's an awful result for them today. The play-offs look beyond them now when a win would have kept them right in the mix. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 4:59pm
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Another defeat today to bottom 3 side Rotherham. Oh dear. A load of fans want him out already due to his bizarre team selections and hoofball. Fallout Boy is due a high profile row with one of the players any time now. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:03pm
Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:03pm
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Rotherham are the "Moldova" of that league. Tough game. It's their first league win against Forest since 1956. I think it was during Brian Clough's playing days.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:08pm
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:09pm
Clough's debut season (I think) at his hometown club. He never played for Forest though, or had any connection to the club or city prior to 1975. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:19pm
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Just goes to show how sh*t the Scottish League is. MON was considered a genius based on a few good seasons up there. He has always been totally overhyped and a false myth built around him hence why I was against his appointment. In fact I'd say he is almost a spoofer. Talks articulately and tips his glasses and looks like he's smart but is just a dinosaur with no idea about tactics or how to play football. Fair enough we beat Italy at Euro 2016 but it was a Hail Mary effort of changing the team up and had the luck of playing Italy B with nothing to play for. He kept throwing sh*t at the wall hoping something would stick. All the bullsh*t about 'we dont have the players to even attempt to roll a ball 10 yds along the ground to one another' was trotted out to protect his 'messiah' image amongst celtic die hards and IRA sympathisers. He had an inordinate amount of luck that kept him going way longer than he should have in the EIRE hotseat. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 6:06pm
You don't half talk some bollocks! As I have said to you before, you undermine your own arguments by taking them to illogical lengths. "False myth"! What's a true myth? MON being passed his sell by date goes to show nothing but that. MON was considered a good manager because he took Leicester up and established them as an upper mid-table EPL side. Leicester have won 4 major domestic trophies, MON was in charge for two of them. He then went to a Celtic side that had finished 21 points behind Rangers the previous season and finished 15 points ahead of them. On its own that would be considered impressive, the fact it was proved that Rangers were cheating with EBTs, to the point where Stefan Klos was earning he same at Rangers as David Beckham was at Madrid, gives you an idea of the achievement. Now, I am not sure that makes him a footballing genius, even with Seville thrown in, but he does mean he was a very good manager at the time. I think it is unquestionable that his ideas on the game have become outdated, he isn't the only manager that has happened to, but it is silly to rewrite the past based solely on the present. As for his time with Ireland, it was certainly a mixed bag. I think everyone of us could see he should have gone after the Denmark debacle and there was a lot of evidence to suggest that his ideas were outdated during the Euro '16 campaign. He did get a lot of luck, but he still probably overachieved with the players we had available. I can understand why people don't like him, he is a bristly character and his attitude towards the press, TOD in particular, was often unnecessary. There is even more reasons not to like Keane, in fact I think MON's biggest mistake was appointing Keane. There is absolutely no doubt that MON was a better manager with John Robertson beside him. I think Robertson nullified the most arrogant edges of his personality too. As much as I admired Keane as a player and enjoy his sense of humour that seems to fly over a lot of people's heads, particularly in England, he shouldn't be allowed manage or coach players. At this stage his reputation alone is toxic enough, even if he doesn't actually do anything wrong, which he usually seems to. There are loads of sticks you can beat both of them with, which is why I find it so odd that you pick the most ineffective ones to try and beat him with. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 6:39pm
It's not bollocks at all. Firstly John Barnes was the manager the previous season who wasa total novice and never managed before or after. He did however sign Petrov who MON didn't sign but a lot of people assume he did. Neither did he sign Larsson who was the most influential player in that period. Wim Jansen broke Rangers dominance. Barnes hadn't a clue. MON was subsequently bankrolled by an unprecedented amount upon his arrival. And for Scotland that was huge. Celtic were already ready to break Rangers. They just needed any sort of manager who had some sort of competency. Like I keep repeating if his time there was so special it wouldn't have been repeated by Lennon and Strachan who lets be fair are mediocre managers. If MON was such a good manager at the time those achievements would not have been repeated in his lifetime. As for his time at Leicester. 2 league cups. Can you tell me why that is anything to be in awe of? How many other jokers won the league cup in that era? Spurs won it when they were sh*te, villa won it twice. Brian Little was the messiah who achieved that feat. What about Sheffield Wednesday, or Spurs who were useless back then. Souness won it with Blackburn in that era also. None of them I assume you hold in the same regard as MON. As for undermining your own arguments, you are anti-racist, anti discrimination, and promote PC culture. Yet you support Celtic who are involved in sectarianism and whose fans sing IRA songs, who the club owners allowed the Wolfe Tones sing IRA songs on their pitch for their official video at a time the IRA were killing innocent civilians nothing to do with the struggle. You hate Australians and South Africans. What's the story with that sort of inconsistency? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 7:14pm
That's brilliant. Strachan was a very good manager, actually.He is another one whose ideas became outdated. The reason MON's achievements are considered better is because of the financial cheating that Rangers were involved in was at its highest during his time at Celtic. Rangers were on their way down during Lennon's period, they were financially f**ked. I never said it was anything to be in awe of, I merely said it showed that the 2 league cups, along with taking them from the second tier to being a good top division side showed he did a very good job there. I think it is pretty much universally accepted, except by you, that he did a good job at both Leicester and Celtic. As for your bizarre and unrelated rant at me, well there aren't enough smiley faces that can be shown. I don't promote "PC culture", I don't even know what it is. I can be considered anti-racist and anti-discrimination,in a way, but I fail to see how supporting Celtic is contradictory to that. I think you don't see that either, but I touched a nerve about your hatred for MON, which I have to say is a little irrational and unsettling. I have also never claimed to be a pacifist. I believe in armed insurrection and revolution. I may be drifting more and more towards pacifism as I get older, but an oxymoron I hold dear is that true peace has to be fought for. I don't think that the peace that is being enjoyed in Ireland today could have been achieved without the IRA. I think an awful lot of their individual actions were unnecessary, but bad decisions are regularly made in any war. I do understand the counterarguments and why people are sensitive about it, but I would say that the British, and to a lesser extent Irish, governments have to take a lot of responsibility for that. Again, I fail to see what that has to do with me thinking you repeatedly pick the wrong arguments when debating MON. The hatred of South Africans is a new one, especially as the girl I live with and am in love with is proud of her SAfrikaner heritage, even though parts of that heritage cause her embarrassment. That's a true contradiction, like most people have. As for my dislike of Australians, I hold my hands up.It is probably a contradiction. I have loads,like most humans. Anyway, if hating a nation for its refusal to address its racism, one that manifests itself so regularly in its citizens, makes me racist I don't really care. Which is why I clarified above that I am anti-racist 'in a way'. What I actually am in favour of is human advancement and progression, genuine societal change and improvement. Australia seems to be seriously struggling with that. That and I have met loads of them and struggled with them all, but then I dislike lots of people. Again,I fail to see the connection between this and me saying some of your dislike of MON is irrational and you pick the wrong arguments. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 7:56pm
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Just derailing the thread from MON's inadequacies but you have always been pro PC culture on here and said that political correctness is a good thing. But you are politically incorrect when its suits you. If you believe in armed struggles and revolution what is your views on Jihadism? I'm sure they feel their cause is just. That the west bombed their kids and exploited their countries. I'm not sure where you can draw a line and say this is a just war, but this isn't. I thought you hated white South Africans. I don't see why you don't considering they are as racist as you get and are at least on a par with Australians. Why one and not the other? Slightly contradictory. As for human advancement that you are in favour of: Why do you like football considering a lot of fans are racist, bigoted, narrow minded ultra nationalists especially the fans in the country that you live? They wouldn't exactly be Charles Darwen's choice for natural selection and advance the species from. For a man in favour of inteleectulism, societal improvement and progression to like football could be likened to a black man saying he hates racism and the KKK but loves to turn up to see the burning crosses. As for MON I never said he did a bad job at Celtic or even Leicester. I merely pointed out that any manager with any bit of competency could have achieved similar things up there with the squad he had inherited and was allowed to add to with millions from the owners that was unavailable to his predecessors until Jansen. Had Jansen stayed he could have achieved as much or more. His time with Leicester was good but again nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing that would make him stand out against say Gareth Southgate, Brian Little, Souness et al. Little and Souness got Leicester and Blackburn promoted and subsequently won a league cup. I'm just pointing out nobody in these islands lauded these managers as messiahs like MON was lauded. Souness won everything in Scotland. I disliked he was put on a pedestal by many (usually Celtic fans) as some great manager. He was no more than a middle of the road manager who played ugly bully type football. It was disguised at Celtic because they were playing absolute useless competition week in week out.. It was like the Harlem Globetrotters playing Knocknagoshel Harriers. I was dead against his appointment and took flak on here for saying how crap a job he was doing and for ages people were saying it was the players. He is destroying Nottingham Forest since he took over. The posts on their forum have turned from ultra welcoming and positive at his arrival to outrage in what 2 months or so? All the stuff I was saying they are now saying. The wins were undeserved flukes where they were outplayed and had luck on their side and the outrage of his team selections and football are there even when they win. If you read their forum now they pretty much all want him out. They can't put up with watching Wimbledon 1987 week in week out even winning which they are not most weeks. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 8:02pm
Go and have a glass of water and a run around in the backyard. Also, see a psychiatrist, I can recommend a couple! ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 8:08pm
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Well I am going for a game of snooker soon and a few pints. MON can't play snooker as he hits the cue ball into the air. Its supposed to be rolled around the playing surface. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 8:12pm
Stick to the minerals, for the love of superman! If you are that addled before the pints it can't end well. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 3:14pm
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TJ rewriting history
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 4:18pm
I'm a historian. For you see I've always had a special interest in dinosaurs  ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 4:34pm
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Well this thread went up a notch but not in a good way. There is some amount of craziness on this forum ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: amccarten313
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 6:16pm
| i know he always complained about the lack of time w the squad as an international manager compared to club but I think that actually suited MON more given the way the game has evolved. as discussed extensively on here and in the press seems like he didn't really devote much time to detailed tactical planning or anything like that. if anything, to me that would seemingly be more exacerbated at club level. I don't wish him failure he brought us some good moments but by the end the football was so horrible and the atmosphere was toxic he should've been gone earlier. since taking over at forest hes won 5, drawn 3, lost 5 |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 9:22pm
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MON working his magic again. 3-0 down to Sheffield Wednesday. MON promised to bring the good old days back to Forest. The 1880's. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 9:41pm
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------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 9:59pm
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Will be amazed if they aren't sacked the minute the season ends. Horrendous appointment. ------------- "I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that." |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:04pm
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Contracted for remainder of season only no?
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Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:06pm
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:13pm
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I don't think details of the length of their Forest contract were revealed, I always assumed it was until the end of the season. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:16pm
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I thought they had next season in their contract, no? If they do, it will be far more costly to leave them there. Pay them off or spend years repairing the damage done from the kind of transfer business I can only imagine they would do
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:20pm
Possibly, it was all hush and hush when it was announced. The Forest owner is a lunatic, so a ten year deal isn't unlikely. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 10:25pm
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I'd imagine there was a non-playoff f**k off clause. ------------- 
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 11:37pm
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I await a Roy Keane in incident with (insert Forest player name here) any time now ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: mully_85
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 11:42pm
| some bluffers!!! lol keep them in action please, absolute comedy just thank fook it isnt Ireland any more |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2019 at 12:07am
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I think Royston, at some point in the not too distant future, will regret hitching his career ambitions to MON's. When the Ireland role came up, he hadn't too much of a choice, but he'll have even less of a choice now whenever they get the road at Forest- he should have taken his chances elsewhere, anywhere. Doesn't say an awful lot for his judgement of football or indeed MON as a manager if he thought that MON could make a success out of the same tripe he played with Ireland at Forest. Maybe Royston himself is stuck in the same timewarp. The Greek lad could easily fire them before the end of the season, a big enough defeat at home in one of the remaining games would likely bring a similar to Denmark away type protest from the natives, club legends or not. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |