Footballers - who's Brexit and who's Remain?
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Topic: Footballers - who's Brexit and who's Remain?
Posted By: sid waddell
Subject: Footballers - who's Brexit and who's Remain?
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:04am
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When I used to go to Belfast as a kid a game I'd play was to guess whether people you passed on the street were a Taig or a Prod. In a similar spirit, I give you the Football Brexit guessing game. Off the top of my head we so far have: Confirmed Brexiteers: Peter Shilton Chris Waddle (NO DEAL!) I think Sol Campbell is an Uncle Brexit. I'm sure I also reaad that David James is pro-Brexit too, though I would have had him down as a Remainer. Perhaps he feels he has to live up to his "Calamity" nickname. Confirmed Remainers: Gary Lineker I think it's pretty obvious Gareth Southgate was a Remainer too athough he hasn't said it specifically. Here's some guesses: Brexit lovers: Terry Butcher Stuart Pearce David Batty Andy Gray Dennis Wise Sean Dyche Bryan Robson Peter Beardsley Lee Bowyer Jonathan Woodgate Brexit haters: Gary Neville Brian McClair Mark Lawrenson David Beckham Jamie Carragher Trevor Steven Big Neville Southall Peter Reid Paul Elliott Pat Nevin ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:08am
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Confirmed Remainers: Gary Lineker Dietmar Hamann Petr Cech Giorgio Chiellini Jamie Carragher Kevin Davies ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:09am
| Jamie Vardy would be a brexiteer |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:10am
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What makes you say Woodgate is a brexiteer? ------------- 
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:15am
His history of violent assault.  ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
SuperDave84 wrote:Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:17am
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Guess: Graham Roberts - NO DEAL Brexit and food shortages inflicted on Ireland. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:19am
And how did you know whether you were right or not? Did you run after them and ask? Or did you only play* it on the Shankill and the Falls? * - Not much of a game that
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:24am
| Wayne Rooney said he’s in favour of brexit, unless he has a lie in, in which case he just goes for an early lunch |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:25am
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Baggio's streak is officially over. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:27am
 Trying too hard
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:30am
I always ran after the ones I thought were Taigs to check. I was usually right but one occasion I misjudged it and ended up narrowly escaping the angry hun onto a Citybus. However the bus was set on fire and burned out before it reached the second stop, so I'd probably have been better off taking my beating. I usually played the game in and around the Castle Court centre on the days when there were no bomb threats, which would have been rare enough, from memory. Playing it on the Falls and the Shankill would have sort of defeated the purpose. Some more guesses: HARD Brexiteers: Tony Pulis Alan Pardew Anybody who has ever played for Stoke Remainers: John Col-hoon (ex Heart of Midlothian) - the supermarket value Pat Nevin ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:32am
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Someone asked Eric Dier and he replied, "Er, sorry, what was the question again, I lost concentration." Well he is utterly unqualified to hold a position, isn't he...
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:34am
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Vinnie Jones doesn't like immigrants and says England is no longer a European country due to them. However I can't find any articles telling us whether or not he supports Brexit, so it would be crazy to make any assumptions. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/02/vinnie-jones-immigration_n_3856092.html%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/02/vinnie-jones-immigration_n_3856092.html
I will make a guess about former Hearts player Andrew Driver though. HARD, HARD, HARD Brexit.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:34am
| Klopp - remainer |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:37am
 I mean, poor oul Shame-us can't even leave the UK  |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:39am
McLean hates the Brits so of course he voted Leave. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:42am
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Jordan Henderson - LEAVE The Ox - HARD REMAIN, including joining Schengen and the Euro ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:44am
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Frank 'Tory boy' Lampard- Brexiteer Steve Perryman- Remain The ghost of Emlyn Hughes- Brexit The ghost of Brian Clough- Brexit (Dennis Skinner variety) Mick McCarthy (possibly same) Chris Hughton- remain ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:46am
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David Healy- Leave Iain Dowie- Leave Sammy McIlroy- LeaveIan Wright- Leave ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:50am
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Martin O'Neill votes to join the EU as he is still stuck in 1973 ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:51am
Tony Galvin - LEAVE (Russian-influenced variety) I'd guess Lampard is a pro-Business Tory Remainer. I'd be flabbergasted if Big Mick wasn't solid Remain. Branching out, both Bobby George and James Wade are partial to a double 14 - confirmed Remainers. Wadey even carries the European flag on the back of his shirt. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:56am
Basically said that you can't reason with racists, since they just hate, pure and simple. So you've got to oppose them. Can't find it just now, but this gives a flavour: The 46-year-old was all smiles as he took part in an impromptu coaching session at the launch of 'Tackling it Together' before getting deadly serious when discussing the race rows currently engulfing the English game. 'I was fighting racism 20 years ago,' said the former Wimbledon midfielder when asked about Blatter's recent comments that racism on the pitch should be settled by a handshake. My room partner was John Fashanu. We'd go to grounds and they'd throw bananas on the pitch. I used to throw them back. 'We've come a long way and we don't need our leaders like him (Blatter) tripping it up. 'We finally got a grip on it and then silly comments are made.' Jones revealed how he and fellow 'Crazy Gang' member Dennis Wise would handle racist abuse directed against their black team-mates. 'If there was any kind of racism at all, the white lads would say, "We're not having this",' he said. 'You can't have the black or Asian lads just trying to stick up for themselves. It's got to be taken a step further, which me and Wisey did 20 years ago in sticking up for Fash, saying, "You stay out of it, we'll deal with these idiots".' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064392/Vinnie-Jones-How-I-sorted-Carlos-Tevez.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064392/Vinnie-Jones-How-I-sorted-Carlos-Tevez.html |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:57am
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Mick is Yorkshire red, incredibly hard to predict.Remember, Scargill wants out. Paul Jewell and Trotsky the tortoise - Brexit ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 12:58am
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Sorry, f**ked up my quote editing, see below. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:01am
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Young Vincent also said he didn't recognise Britain due to immigration, was unaware of UKIP and felt that 'we need to look after our own first'. He was also once being groomed, apparently, to run for the Tories. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:02am
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Rio Ferdinand is confirmed REMAIN. Guesses: Terry Venables - REMAIN (needs a bolthole in Spain if he gets done for tax evasion) Martin Keown - DEFINITE REMAIN (he can talk fluently, it's obvious) Robbie Fowler - LEAVE Luke Shaw - REMAIN Barry Fry - LEAVE Glen Johnson - REMAIN HARD REMAINERS: Juan Mata Vinnie K Dennis Bergkamp ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:02am
But not his grandfather... ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:04am
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:11am
Those twats don't even want to remain in the UK, never mind the EU: https://yorkshiredevolution.co.uk/yorkshire-independence-myths-and-realities.html" rel="nofollow - https://yorkshiredevolution.co.uk/yorkshire-independence-myths-and-realities.html In fact, he's from Barnsley, so he possibly doesn't even want to remain in Yorkshire.
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:17am
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Paul Merson is a Brexiteer. "Those foreigners coming here taking over our league, I'm looking at you Marco Silva."
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:20am
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Charlie Nicholas -Leave Alan Shearer- Undecided Le Tissier- Remain------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:25am
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Alan Shearer's a remainer. How could he not possibly so spending every weekend with Gary Lineker and his piss boring political rants.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:31am
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/28/revealed-premier-league-fanbase-favour-brexitand-fans-regret/
Some divide on Merseyside. Liverpool supporters: 77% REMAIN (second highest in the Premier League to Brighton's 81%). Everton supporters: 57% LEAVE. Stoke were 60% REMAIN  It will surprise nobody that Chelsea were the biggest LEAVERS on 62%. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:53am
That's bizarre, they say a Merseyside divide and only mention one group of fans from Merseyside. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:08am
You've jumped the gun there - Everton actually haven't left for Knowsley yet. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 9:37am
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I was referring to Liverpool, those numbers are hardly surprising given how the rest of London voted. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 9:39am
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Peter Reid- Remain Had a go at Shilton on twitter over his praise for Rees Mogg ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 10:12am
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Matt Doherty - Remain - He holds no responsibilities, so if he could have he could not have possibly left himself responsible for leaving the EU. Neil Ruddock - EDL Frontman - Pictured coming out of polling booth pie in hand wearing Union Jack trousers, shouting "That better be the last facking Pole I see in my country"
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 10:14am
I get the feeling you are a remainer young Terence ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:03pm
A guest of Her Majesty's Prison Service perhaps?
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:11pm
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Brexit XI (4-4-2, playing PROPER long ball football) Peter Shilton Graham Roberts - Neil Ruddock - Terry Butcher - Stuart Pearce Dennis Wise - Vinnie Jones - Lee Bowyer - Chris Waddle Carsten Jancker (special dispensation for a Saxon) - Mark Hateley Subs: Steve Bull, Mark Dennis, David Batty, Paul Merson, Danny Mills Manager: Dave "Harry" Bassett ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:11pm
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I assume he means local elections, which were limited to property owners in Derry (and the rest of the North) back in the day, and basically no nationalists owned their own houses in Derry. -------------
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:30pm
So unless McClean's grandfather was a woman, born before 1907, he won't have been excluded. P.S. We might have a better idea of Jamesie's view on Brexit if we knew how he voted in the Referenda on the Lisbon Treaty in 2008/9. No, wait...
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:38pm
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:44pm
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Declan Rice - undecided He was remain but after seeing a slideshow by Nigel Farage he’s considering becoming a brexiteer
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:55pm
Ah, I didn't get the reference to the original 1970s referendum. -------------
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:57pm
 (Note the colour of the dragon |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:22pm
You were correct, I wasn't referring to any referendum in particular, more to the history of the north of Ireland in general. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:30pm
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This is most definitely the most pointless thread in the history of this site.
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:41pm
Also plebiscites and referenda etc.
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:46pm
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Posted By: ErsatzThistle
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:48pm
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If their opinions are the same today as they in this 2009 article, Jimmy Greaves and Ian St John probably are brexiteers. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/29/ian-st-john-jimmy-greaves" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/29/ian-st-john-jimmy-greaves Michael Stewart (ex Man Utd, N'ttm Forest, Hibs Hearts) who is a pundit these days on Scottish football is very pro-EU. Btw wasn't the late Derek Dougan a UKIP spokeman ? |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 3:12pm
Dunno who the bloke in the middle is... 
Though that was some time after his career as a Trade Unionist (with the PFA).
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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 3:41pm
Jancker is NOT a Saxon. He's from Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, a dirty Northerner. As a Saxon, I take offence to this Sid, do your research. ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 3:47pm
Are you sl*gging off my research? I'll have you know I did more research on Carsten's background than the European Research Group have done on any topic, ever - I watched "The Jancker Files" on RTE following the Ireland-Germany game in 2002, and very entertaining it was too. ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 3:52pm
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------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 11:16pm
| Rangers went for the hard brexit tonight, while Celtic got a Norway plus conclusion |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 11:22pm
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Have you been on Twitter again? ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 11:48pm
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Remain: Michael van Gerwen https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/02/michael-van-gerwen-brexit-phil-taylor" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/02/michael-van-gerwen-brexit-phil-taylor ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 12:10am
What club does he play for and what position does he play?
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 12:20am
| Up top for Ally Palace. Has an unbelievable scoring rate per appearances too. Big Mick should cap him ASAP as surely with a name like Mick he has to have some Irish in him. |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:45am
Very good. |
Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 1:32pm
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Sol Campbell – The former England international football star said he is backing Brexit so that young British sporting talent would be nurtured and given greater opportunities at British clubs. He said: "I'm looking at the sporting side - how youngsters aren't getting the opportunities at some of the big clubs and some of the big clubs are bringing in youngsters from 14, 15, 16 and becoming home-grown, which is pushing some of our youngsters out." Other sportspeople supporting Leave are cricketer Sir Ian Botham, former England goalkeeper David James, racing driver Perry McCarthy, and Olympic rower James Cracknell. Mark up Sol and DJ for leave.Two lads who were always a few sandwiches short of a picnic. The best non football one is Elizabeth Hurley.She wants to leave so she can use stronger light bulbs and more powerful hair dryers. |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 1:54pm
Botham is no surprise neither is Cracknell, never heard of the driver but James is a surprise ------------- 'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:08am
| Neil Warnock on Brexit: "Why did we have a referendum in the first bloody place? I can't wait to get out if I'm honest. I think we'll be far better out of the bloody thing. In every aspect. To hell with the rest of the world. Football-wise as well." |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:09am
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Shock horror ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:18am
He makes me feel smart ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:47am
| Neil Warnock definitely strikes me as an EDL member if he never succeeded getting a coaching badge. |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 9:18am
Why does Warnock have no eyebrows? Always struck me as strange 
His views on Brexit are unsurprising
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Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:05am
------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 12:44am
| Garth Crooks is like 1 of those idiots who thinks he knows best, like Tim Martin so I'd say he's definitely in favour of a No-deal Brexit. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 12:53am
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Neil Warnock always reminded me of the Joke rwith no make up from the Adam West Batmans ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 3:59am
Paddy Power had it up before but he's the image of Tony Soprano's mother. ------------- Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic." |
Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 6:15am
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Article about John Sitton (of Leyton Orient documentary fame on the 42. Here's his take on Brexit; He bemoans the state of the NHS, citing examples in which “I pick up a nurse after an 18-hour shift because she is too tired to get public transport” and he voted for Brexit as he became fed up with the EU from a “historical perspective”. “I know it might be overly-simplistic, but my main issue is that you have the people who kicked off the trouble in Europe, twice – ergo the Germans – and we gave them a slap, twice, yet they seem to have conquered us economically and to be dictating policy” ------------- Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic." |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 11:42am
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/13/hand-of-clod-brexit-and-theresa-may-divide-englands-1986-world-cup-squad" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/13/hand-of-clod-brexit-and-theresa-may-divide-englands-1986-world-cup-squad ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 9:08pm
Well well look who's a Brexiteer ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:20pm
| Leave is what he does the snake **** |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:33pm
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Sorry, where is that from and is it actually real? Harry Kane either wants to avoid controversy or he's thick as champ (or at the very least lacking in basic curiosity about a matter that could fundamentally affect his ability to earn a living overseas). -------------
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 7:43am
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It's on the internet it must be real. Taken from Twitter, I believe that wins awards for the honesty and integrity of the local oafs posting on it ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 11:59am
Came from Jonathan Liew and it was not real.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 12:06pm
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I don’t want to know their opinions on football, why anyone would want to know their opinions on Brexit is beyond me! Making them up is quite funny though! ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 10:39am
WRONG Pards is a REMAINER ------------- Edited by Trigboy 10 at 10:03pm |
Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 11:39pm
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http://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1163929537488576512?s=20" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1163929537488576512?s=20
Ian Holloway surprising nobody by sounding like an idiot. Hes after coming out with some nonsense about Brexit and the new handball laws.
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 11:58pm
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What a fckin idiot.
------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 12:20am
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/19/peter-beardsley-banned-football-seven-months-racist-language" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/19/peter-beardsley-banned-football-seven-months-racist-language I wonder how Beardsley voted.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 6:47am
| How’d they work out what he was saying? |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 7:59pm
It says a lot about the stupidity of such a nasty and objectionable post that its sheer vacuity is the most offensive thing about it..
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Posted By: ErsatzThistle
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:18pm
Does Peter Beardsley actually have the intelligence to .... i) register to vote in the first place. ii) successfully locate his local polling station. iii) correctly mark his choice on the ballot paper. iv) successfully deposit the ballot paper in the little box. I'm rather sceptical.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:22pm
I'm not saying that Brexit is racist (there are a lot of valid reasons why people voted to leave) but there can be little doubt but that, following the Brexit vote, there has been an increase in racist incidents in the UK. Now, correlation and causation are tricky things, but it is generally accepted, and I believe rightly so, that the Brexit vote has acted as an influence and indeed something of a licence for behaviour the like of which occurred less frequently prior to the referendum. Distilled, I think it is fair to say that the average (median) Brexit voter is not racist, but racists are disproportionately in favour of Brexit. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48692863" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48692863 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/20/racism-on-the-rise-since-brexit-vote-nationwide-study-reveals" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/20/racism-on-the-rise-since-brexit-vote-nationwide-study-reveals https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/brexiles-it-has-become-okay-to-make-racial-comments-in-uk-1.3800551" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/brexiles-it-has-become-okay-to-make-racial-comments-in-uk-1.3800551 https://www.her.ie/news/racist-hate-crimes-increased-400-week-since-brexit-vote-300573" rel="nofollow - https://www.her.ie/news/racist-hate-crimes-increased-400-week-since-brexit-vote-300573 My post may have been pithy but vacuous it was not. And it is remarkable that you have to chosen to highlight your objection to my post
rather than addressing, in any way, the truly remarkable objectionableness of Beardsley's
comments. I'll say little more than that your attitude is itself deserving of remark. To go to the bother of posting that a somewhat glib aside on my part is nasty and objectionable, while saying nothing of Beardsley's antediluvian attitude, is striking. You may agree that Beardsley's comments were deplorable yet that is not what you chose to highlight. Incredible. -------------
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:24pm
It’s a good observation. People in Newcastle do have difficulty with reading and writing
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:26pm
Gazza will be on Question Time tonight as one of the guests giving his views on Brexit. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:38pm
A mate of mine is English (he lives here). I asked him what did his parents, who live in England, vote.....they voted Leave.....why? “Bloody foreigners” |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:55pm
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Well if they didn't want bloody foreigners in they shouldn't have invaded half the planet. I don't see how leaving the EU is going to reverse the amount of 'bloody foreigners' that live in good old blighty since the 1960's. That bloody immigrant from Singapore Terry Butcher should be the 1st on the deportation boat. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 9:42pm
All sorts of logical fallacies going on here. Cause equals correlation, guilt by association, failure to denounce (obviously) unacceptable behavior equates with consent and approval of said unacceptable behaviour. I could go on... Unless you can show me differently, you have absolutely no idea how the racist, Peter Beardsley, voted in the 2016 referendum on UK membership of the EU; an institution of which all 78 commissioners are white and of which only 3 of 751 MEPs are black. In one crass, self-admittedly 'glib' comment you've managed to trivialise the personal experiences of Beardsley's accusers, minimise the issue of racism more generally, and indulge in grossly offensive and all too prevalent tropes implying that people from the north of England, and working class people more widely, are thick, uneducated, racist, and morally inferior to middle-class 'woke' liberals such as yourself. It would be like my lazily suggesting that because many of your liberal, 'progressive' pin-ups like Justin 'black face' Trudeau, John 'hang Nelson Mandella' Bercow, Oliver 'bad moral attitude' Letwin and Tony the War Criminal Blair, and so on, have an *ahem* somewhat less than immaculate past it meant that everyone from your political standpoint was somehow lacking in moral rectitude - which of course I never would. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 10:14pm
There are an equal number of fallacies in your post; of course I have no idea how (or if!) Beardsley voted and expecting proof of that is demanding an impossible standard. I also expressly said correlation and causation was a difficult issue; I also didn't say your silence implied consent, I simply pointed out what you appeared to deem more worthy of criticism and I even went as far as to say you might well deplore Beardsley's comments. I basically addressed each of the points of criticism you now have in my first post and I can't see how you've missed that. And whether the EU an an institution has structural racism issues is neither here nor there; what is apropos is that there is certifiable correlation between the vote and racist behaviour in the UK in a way that strongly implies causation. I also don't see that I in any way trivialised the issues and of course Beardsley's comments were disgraceful. Saying I trivialised them is, if anything, a false hue and cry of the type often used by right-wing snowflakes (for clarity, not saying you are). How you can possibly extrapolate from my posts to construct a straw man that I believe working-class people are thick, uneducated, racist of morally inferior is beyond me. Indeed, I also pointed out that there were many valid reasons why people voted to leave. Also, the working class were far from exclusively the voter base for Brexit, unlike what you seem to be implying. And the f**k Trudeau, Bercow, Letwin and Blair have to do with my point I don't know, still less suggesting they are pin-up icons of mine, all so you can try and make a cheap point at my expense (for clarity, you tried to make a point, and you missed). Your post has far more sweeping generalisations and straw men than anything in mine.
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 10:27pm
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John Barnes is a remainer. (true story) I guess the current politicians have taken a leaf from his rapping masterclass where he says "It doesn't matter how slow as long you get to the line" Sol Campbell is a hard Brexiteer which is a surprise considering he's plays the racism card on a annuallybasis.
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Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 10:35pm
What the f**k Beardsley has to do with the complex issues surrounding the UK's membership of the EU I don't know. Back to your original post, and for clarity, what exactly were you implying when you asked 'how Beardsley voted'? I was, obviously, making the point that because obvious c**ts such as Trudeau and co are of an anti-Brexit disposition, doesn't imply ('certifiable correlation') that all those opposed to the UK's leaving the EU are similarly c**tish.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 10:52pm
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The basic point, as appears to be backed up by the multiple articles I posted, is that racist behaviour has been, to an extent, enabled by the Brexit vote. Beardsley and his comments don't have much to do with Brexit per se but the sort of behaviour and comments he made have become more prevalent since the vote, and it is a viable hypothesis (and widely agreed with, for what it is worth, not that it means much) that the Brexit vote was a causative precursor to that. While Brexit of itself is not racist, the insular ideology of a number of its supporters (a minority of them, of course) is and is disproportionate to the number of those who voted remain who have similar opinions. The key point: I don't think it is a stretch to imply, perhaps with a poor, misguided attempt at humour, that a person who made racist comments might well have voted for Brexit. I don't see that that trivialises things but I appreciate now that it might have come across as that. However, saying people who have voiced things that are widely considered to be racist are more likely to have voted for Brexit (which is probably fair) is a very different thing from saying Brexit voters are racist (which is very much not fair); that is very much guilt by association and I was careful not to say that. One last thing: I misread your line on Bercow, Trudeau et al, and you can ignore what I said about them; your point makes sense; I think I have always been clear in the same thread, in saying that Brexit voters are not racist by association. It's like the nonsense that Muslim leaders are expected to deplore Islamist violence quicker than anyone else or that Irish politicians, during the Troubles, were expected to be quick to castigate republican violence. None of that is fair and I don't think my posts implied that; I tried to be careful to avoid any implication along those lines. Indeed, I covered the very point in the first line of my first reply. Anyway, I'm done: it's Friday night and I'm off for a late pint.
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Posted By: Slow & Blind
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2019 at 1:54pm
Newcastle was the only area in the north east that voted remain. It's a liberal city, come visit some time.
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