Euro 2020 Qualifying
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Topic: Euro 2020 Qualifying
Posted By: Healy52003
Subject: Euro 2020 Qualifying
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 5:04pm
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draw to take place Sun 2nd Dec from the convention centre Dublin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying The teams will be seeded based on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#Overall_ranking" rel="nofollow - November 2018 UEFA Nations League overall rankings .
The four participants of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_Nations_League_Finals" rel="nofollow - 2019 UEFA Nations League Finals in June 2019 will be placed in a separate pot and drawn into Groups A–D which only have five teams so that they only have to play eight qualifying matches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying#cite_note-regulations-1" rel="nofollow - [1] The following restrictions will also be applied by computer assistance:
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Posted By: belt
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 5:36pm
| Wasn't aware of the travel restrictions before. Kazakhstan effectively cannot draw 20% of UEFA Nations. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 5:57pm
Yeah it's strange one
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belt wrote:Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 7:34pm
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Last games on the 20th of November so we’ll know the pots then. We need to be in Pot 2 AND a favourable draw.
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Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 8:43pm
My head hurts reading that 
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 9:48pm
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We aren't going to be at Euro 2020. Hope we get some good games in Dublin
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Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 11:26pm
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We will finish 4th in this group under current management. Would lose to all 1st seeds home and away. Would lose to nearly all 2nd seeds home and away. Maybe we could take points off Iceland, but on the other hand if Germany or Croatia end up slipping into Pot 2 then we are instantly finished should we draw them. Imagine if we were in Pot 2, so we could avoid these teams. Positives though, eh Martin? Pot 4 teams would trouble us too - Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Scotland would fancy themselves against us home and away. Albania and Hungary, no guarantees either. Cyprus and Montenegro are the two that we might be capable of getting 4-6 points off. Even some of the Pot 5 teams would test us currently - Georgia off the back of 4 Nations League wins would fancy themselves against us, Slovenia would test us. Are we capable of going to Estonia/Lithuania and winning? No doubt in my mind that we are in for one of the worst 2 years in Irish football history if we keep Delboy and Rodney in charge. Our best chance is hoping all/most the other teams in League B automatically qualify, putting us into a play-off against the North (who are probably even worse than us) and 2 others, for 1 spot.
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 11:31pm
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I was positive earlier in the other thread but now going through that list of teams and it is depressing how low I can get where I'm thinking they wouldn't be an automatic 6 points. Kosovo for example, a bright young side. I reckon we'd genuinely get beat over there
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 11:52pm
Now that we will finish 3rd in our Nations League group we cannot qualify for the Euro’s through the backdoor Nations League. We can only qualify if we finish 1st or 2 nd in the proper qualifying group next year. |
Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 11:58pm
Don't think that is true. Most of the teams in Leagues A and B will qualify automatically. Yet they still need 8 teams to fill out those play-offs. As well as 4 for League C, 4 for League D. We will more than likely appear in those play off games.
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Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:00am
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c. If a UEFA Nations League group winner has directly qualified for the final tournament, the next best-ranked team in the relevant league ranking (see Regulations of the UEFA Nations League ) which has not directly qualified will enter the play-offs. d. If fewer than four teams from one league enter the play-offs, the remaining slots are allocated on the basis of the overall UEFA Nations League rankings (see Regulations of the UEFA Nations League ) to the best-ranked of the teams that have not already qualified for the final tournament, subject to the restriction that group winners cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked teams.
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Posted By: wanderer
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 7:49am
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So what way does this work now ? To get 2nd seeds we have to hope wales beat denmark and then we beat denmark away ?? Just can't see it happening. Fingers crossed the draw is kind to us as 3rd seeds
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:12am
At the moment we are 10th in the League B rankings, meaning we need Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia,Wales, Denmark, Austria,Czech Rep, Turkey to qualify directly to be in the playoffs considering all the teams ranked 1-10 qualify too
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Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:21am
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Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:21am
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Yes, but League A get a playoff spot too, and you would expect all of them to qualify automatically. So even if a few in League B fluff their lines, a playoff spot should trickle down to us. Which is our only hope because we will finish 4th in the campaign under current management.
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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:26am
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At the minute, as per my own early Weds morning calculations, the following teams are guaranteed in these pots, brackets - highly likely to be in those pots. Pot 1 - France, Belgium, Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, (Italy, England, Dutch) Pot 2 - Russia, Bosnia, Wales, Israel (Denmark, Iceland) Pot 3 - Finland (OWC, Ireland) Pot 4 - Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania (Albania, Hungary) Pot 5 - Georgia, Luxembourg, Kosovo, Macedonia, Belarus Pot 6 - (Malta, San Marino, Andorra) Rest up in the air by varying degrees.
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:26am
Yes that too, I'd say we will most likely get a playoff spot. As I'd be surprised if France,Spain, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, England, Italy,Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Croatia, Iceland didn't finish in the top 2 of their groups. the bold ones being the only one's I'd say might not |
Posted By: wanderer
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:27am
| Just on the nations league group, is it goal difference first that separates teams or head to head if we were to say finish on 4 with denmark |
Posted By: gmfc90
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:34am
Head to head I believe ------------- Danger here, OH NO |
Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 8:37am
Yep. Wales to beat Denmark at home on the 16th of November to become the out and out winners of our group. Leaving us and Denmark to fight it out for 2nd on the 19th in Aarhus. But with Eriksen back for the Danes then, and with us currently running around like headless chickens on the pitch, I'll keep my eyes peeled to the sky to see if any pigs are flying by. ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:37pm
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We could get Wales again in the qualifying proper  Only showing the 1st 4 pots as it stands. Based on that I'd be happy with Swiss as top seeds Austria as 2nd Seeds and Estonia as the 4th seeds Can't find the potential 5th and 6th seeds as it stands anywhere
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:44pm
Nah. Assuming we finish 10th in League B, that has us 22nd overall. However, there are two playoff paths above us. We simply need 14 of those 21 above us to qualify automatically. Ideally more of them than 14 qualify, because then we might actually have a chance in the playoffs, against the likes of Northern Ireland and Slovakia. ------------- 
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:47pm
So we're pretty much guaranteed a playoff because I reckon at least 12 of the above teams will qualify automatically
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:04pm
Even if you could hand pick all the teams from the various groups I still wouldn’t back us to qualify under the current set up. We have been dire for 2 years now. We need a favourable draw to give us a chance of qualifying. Being 3rd seeds with no play-offs means no room for error. ------------- |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:05pm
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Well, it depends on where we ultimately finish in League B. If we are ranked 12th, there is a chance that maybe only 15 of the 23 teams above us qualify automatically, especially with some of those restrictions on the draw. Now, that basically requires 5 of the League C and D teams finishing top two in their groups, which is kind of unlikely, but certainly possible. I can see a way, for example, for Serbia, Norway, Finland (12 points out of 12 in the Nations League), Israel and Montenegro could all finish top two in their groups, as third seeds. Certainly, there will be second seeds there for the taking by third seeds: Turkey, Austria, Iceland, Ukraine and Russia could all, conceivably, be second seeds but finish below those third seeds. I appreciate it is unlikely that all five would happen but it is a possibility. Also, being in the playoffs is no guarantee of anything: imagine we were in playoffs away to Turkey first and then away to the winner of Iceland v Ukraine three days later. That is a perfectly possible playoff scenario but there is no way we would get through it.
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Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:18pm
| sweet jesus SD that is confusing as f**k. i'm about 80% with ya in all this. i need to read again for the 3rd time.... |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:21pm
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Could playoffs not be held on neutral grounds? Say League A- Germany- Semi finals in Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund final in Berlin League B- Say in Sweden -Semi finals in Stockholm( Tele2 Arena) and Malmo Final in Friends Arena League C Scotland Semi finals in Ibrox and Parkhead Final in Hampden League D- Say in Azerbaijan or Georgia say that would avoid unnecessary travel for fans
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Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:28pm
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Pretty sure the 2 higher ranked teams in the playoff semis get home advantage, then the final is played at a neutral venue. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. ------------- "I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that." |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:40pm
It'll be a home game for one of the finalists. Draw is done at same time as semifinal draw so they'll just have two balls in draw for final called "winner of Match A" and "winner of Match B" or something. You're right about the higher ranked teams in the semis getting home advantage. Just looking at the current Nations League rankings and as it stands Ukraine would be at home to Russia in one of the League B playoffs. Wonder what they'd do in that scenario seeing as there's an agreement in place to separate the two in any qualifying draw.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 2:11pm
Play it in neutral territory. That is, a place that is not 100% Russia or 100% Ukraine. Donetsk it is. -------------
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 2:13pm
 I'd imagine it would be somewhere like Zurich ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 1:05am
Here ya go Den; tables here, scroll down to 'Overall Ranking' - as ever with Wiki, not 100% sure they are correct, but the league A & B ones look right, so the rest should be as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#Criteria_for_league_ranking" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#Criteria_for_league_ranking ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:25pm
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Where are we likely to be ranked for this? I'm assuming pot 3. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:32pm
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pot 3 One hundred percent confirmed. The games over next few days will clarify pots. Germany could yet be pot 2 ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:35pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying%20" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying
We will be pot 3. There are still a few other changes with other teams. ------------- The dark side.. And the light |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:37pm
So we could possibly get France and Germany in the same group? If that happens we might as well prepare ourselves now for watching other teams playing in Dublin at the Euros because it won't be us, especially if Messrs O'Neill and Keane keep their jobs.  ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:39pm
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We got what we deserve. The team seem bereft of confidence and are no longer doing the basics like pressing the opposition. A fresh start is needed...all eyes on JD now. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:40pm
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Best case scenario for us IMO providing we get a new manager (unlikely) Switzerland Austria Ireland Estonia Luxembourg Gibraltar ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:43pm
Even the likes of Estonia and Luxembourg would probably fancy their chances against us (remember Luxembourg taking 4 points off NI only a few years ago). We used to be the team no-one wanted to play against. Now MON is turning us into the team everyone wants to play against.  ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:46pm
Third at best, even if we get Guardiola in. I can only presume that this is JD's reasoning for not paying him off. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:52pm
Persuade Guardiola to ditch the Man City job for us? More chance of us all winning the lottery. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:04pm
Well done, you kind of got the point. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:08pm
Best case scenario imho for pot 1 team is England as prob only team that fill out Aviva which gives money to Fai to get rid of ONeill. They’ll also beat everyone else in the group + as only 2 hosts countries can be in 1 group we avoid Denmark.
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Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:23pm
| No matter who we draw I don't think we'll qualify. No play-off route, so we have to take points off the top 2. Looks very, very unlikely with the downward progression we are on. |
Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:37pm
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:39pm
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 4:00pm
there is a playoff route if we fail to finish top two - we just have to hope a large majority of the Nations League Section B teams qualify from their Euro groups also (not wholly unlikely) taking some points against Denmark might be the difference between a 1-legged tie at home or a 1-legged tie away to somewhere like Turkey, so hopefully Denmark rest some players now they have qualified
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 4:09pm
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wouldn't want to play Austria from pot 2. Rather Iceland or Czech Rep |
Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 4:11pm
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Goodness i feel so low at the moment all i wish we get someone away in the sunshine in June or September . We are not going to to the euros with our present management team no matter who we get . ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 8:51pm
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Clutching at straws here but if Wales and Denmark qualify automatically do we get the playoff spot from our group in the NL I know wales will get it if Denmark qualify automatically and they need it but does it fall to the relegated team I wonder .
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Posted By: TBWRA
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 8:55pm
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No it does not just read it there goes to next best ranked team that has not qualified
------------- "The Football Grounds of Europe" about Dalymount that :- "You walk down lanes you'd expect to find a backstreet mechanic only to stumble onto a national stadium steeped in tradition and history" |
Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 10:21pm
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so in League B the teams who finish top are ranked by performance 1-4 the teams who finish 2nd are ranked by performance 5-8 and the bottom teams ranked 9-12 we need to beat Denmark so we finish as high up in that 9-12 band as possible to give us the best possible chance of achieving a playoff should we need it. We have to assume a lot of the other league B sides will qualify automatically given that they will be seeded 2nd in the qualifying
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Posted By: grannyrule
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 10:32pm
Forget it. The team have no confidence under that overpaid spoofer of a manager and can't even get a shot on target these days. ------------- The only way is up |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 10:45pm
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Are we not better being beaten in Denmark then? Then, if we get to a playoff, we will at least be beaten by a better class of opposition. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: RKeane
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:29am
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I doubt many fans realise how important this Dennmark game is as explained by Jimmy above. I certainly hope the management know the the importance. I can only see us qualifying through the play off at this stage as I doubt we will get top 2 in our current state, being at home in that play off will be massive as I don’t think one could fancy us against any half decent team away in a one leg play off. I doubt O’Neill has a clue about this, thinking about it even if he does what difference will it make, it will be the usual 3-5-2 with 3 centre backs that cannot carry the ball, McClean out of position & Hendrick chasing shadows in midfield ------------- YESSSS! IT'S THERE |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 9:59am
Even if you could handpick the other teams I don’t see us finishing top 2. We just can’t beat anybody right now. We’d get about 6 draws! Confidence is so low and we have no strategy. IF (this wont happen) we took action now and appointed a new manager we would have a chance. Unfortunately we will stick with the current set up instead of paying them €5M off and not qualify for the Euro’s which will cost the FAI over 10 times that amount. 24 European teams out of 55 and we won’t make it ------------- |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 10:17am
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O Neill won’t have a clue about the Euro nations format , not a notion nor likely the fai either It’s like a car crash in slow motion ------------- 'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
Posted By: kearney304
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 11:59am
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Can a few lads throw up other group options besides Switzerland Austria Ireland Estonia Luxembourg Gibraltar ? |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 12:52pm
I firmly believe that, certainly MON anyway. Probably thinks he can stumble his way to a handy play off opponent, after a 3rd place finish. I hope it's Tony O'Donoghue who points it out to him.
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 2:00pm
 here are the likely pots. The teams in bold are confirmed to be in that pot
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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:41pm
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we wont pip any of those pot 1 or pot 2 teams to place in the Euros. Looking at pot 4, we would be doing very well to pip most of those to 3rd place. We will have a real challenge to finish in the position we are seeded to finish. Hopefully we can do so, and reach the playoffs with some kind of positivity behind us. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:45pm
If we get Pot 6 we might have a chance of getting second. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Pauldaly1984
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:50pm
| iceland bosnia or Ukraine Rome pot 2 please. Not a hope of getting anything off a pot 1 team |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:53pm
Ambitious selection even by ybig standards. Rome wasnt built in a day. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:59pm
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Next year is going to be a nightmare in terms of going to away games. 5 aways in what 7 or 8 months. Not feasible to do them all. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:00pm
He meant Bari. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:25pm
Even the super fans will be hard pushed. We might have to rebrand it to super duper fans.
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:28pm
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Just look at the potential groups and we really don't have a chance of qualifying with the current set up. The following is probably our best chance.
Switzerland Iceland Ireland Estonia Gibraltar San Marino |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:40pm
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Don't forget as a "host country", we can only be drawn with 1 other host country, so if we get England from pot 1, we can't get Russia from pot 2.
More importantly if we get Azerbaijan from pot 5 we'll avoid some of the bigger teams from pots 1 and 2. The host countries, Azerbaijan, Denmark, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Russia, Scotland, Spain. We can only get 1. We won't quality anyway.
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Posted By: David McWilliams
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 6:48pm
I understand what you're saying but how does it work? How could we get Azerbaijan over England first? Do they draw it at random? They don't draw the first seed, then the second, then the third, then the fourth seed in a group. What is the order?
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 7:47pm
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Posted By: engpad
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:13pm
They usually draw it from the bottom seeds upwards. So if we were to get Azerbaijan it would certainly rule out a fair few of the higher seeds
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Posted By: Pauldaly1984
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:15pm
| do they need to usually draw it from the top. Seed 1 , 2 etc |
Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:17pm
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just watched the 2016 one back and they did the 1st seeds 1st then went back and did 6th, 5th, 4th etc. So basically UEFA could do anything ultimately like for the Champions League and Europa draws they draw the team first then put all the possible groups in a bowl to pick from
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:38pm
| Pretty sure it's top seeds first anyway |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:59pm
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looking at the overall rankings, its almost impossible for us to miss out on a play-off. In terms of avoiding an away play-off, we need to win tomorrow to jump ahead of Turkey, and that would also give us a chance of junping ahead of Slovakia and Czech Rep. A draw tomorrow would make no difference whatsoever. What im unclear about is how the final allocation works. They fill the playoffs from League D upwards. So they will fill League B with the 4 best teams who havent already qualified. If we are say the 5th and last team who havent qualified from League B, I think that means we then go into the playoffs for League A. But if there are no teams in League A who havent qualified, they'll then fill from next best teams available, which in the scenario Ive decribed would mean us and teams from League C. This would confer an advantage on us that the teams who finished better than us in League B dont get. Think ive seen this discussed before here. Bit confused by that part of the process, wouldnt appear to make sense ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: PaConnors
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 9:22pm
Good opportunity for lads who have never been to Away qualifiers before.
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 9:41pm
 this doesn't make it any clearer
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Posted By: RKeane
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 6:10am
I wonder if they went out of their way and tried to complicate things would they have achieved anything more complicated than this ------------- YESSSS! IT'S THERE |
Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 9:23am
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It makes sense to start at the bottom. Group D will unlikely have anyone already qualified so almost certainly have 4 teams there to make a playoff. Group C probably similar. Then you get to our group which is the biggest mix. The best 4 unqualified teams from that group will be in the playoffs. I'd imagine that will almost certainly contain Ireland. It may contain a few teams from Group C (outside of already qualified teams, and the best 4 others, teams like Scotland, Greece, Cyprus etc). We then play them in a semi-final/final single leg games in March 2020
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 11:44am
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Proper draw for normal qualifying campaign is in Dublin on Dec 2nd. After tomorrow nights matches we’ll know all the seeds. We’ll be in with the 3rd seeds. 10 matches, with 2 matches in March, June, Sep, Oct & Nov 2019. 5 groups of 5 (if you get in a group of 5 then no qualifying matches played in June) 5 groups of 6 If we finish outside of the top 2 we’ll then possibly/probably have the playoff route in March 2020. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 11:45am
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Monday 3rd it is no? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 11:45am
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 12:59pm
| looks like they are drawing the pots from the top seed down |
Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:09pm
have they picked dates or block of dates for these games yet?
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Posted By: Darraghn92
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:17pm
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Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:18pm
thank you
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:18pm
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Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:31pm
be nice to to get an away on matchday 4. be nice also to get a few saturday/sunday games in the other matchdays |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:35pm
Would love a nice June break to Malta or something like that  |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:36pm
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Malta or Gibraltar away on match day 4, 5 or 6 would be nice. Get away for a week or so ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:41pm
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Gibraltar is a kip, as is most of the Spanish coast nearby. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 3:49pm
Full of pick pocketing monkeys
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Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:01pm
| any link to the current groupings of the nations league? |
Posted By: Darraghn92
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:19pm
Wikipedia is the best for all the info. Here's the current tables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#League_A" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#League_A They also have the possible seedings for next months draw as it stands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying#Seeding" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying#Seeding
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Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:30pm
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good man all teams in pot 5/6 are easily accessible expect for Kosovo, Armenia, Azerbaijan,Faroe Islands and Kazakhstan. in pot 4 only Albania would be a problem. avoid Israel at all costs. only country i will never go to a game in. |
Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:38pm
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Gibraltar play their home games in Faro, in the Algarve AFAIK |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:38pm
Playing in Gibraltar now afaik ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:39pm
ffs |
Posted By: LO SCIENZIATO
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 4:47pm
good few flights to be got from UK if we draw them
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