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Premier Division 10 or 12 teams

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Topic: Premier Division 10 or 12 teams
Posted By: Stuarty
Subject: Premier Division 10 or 12 teams
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 11:28pm
Which is better 10 or 12 teams in the Premier Division?
i ask because every few years the League of Ireland's Premier Division changes in size between 10 teams and 12 teams in size.



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Posted By: Stuarty
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 12:23am
does anybody really care?


Posted By: saintjoey
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 6:57pm
I'm not majorly fussed other than the 10 team league gives an equal home and away games and prolongs the season 


Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 3:29am
12 for me. Next season is already down to 9 teams with UCD getting promoted.

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Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 9:47am
12. Four league games against each side it's too many especially when you then add cup games into the equation.

I'd actually go further and have a Premier Division of 16 with Division One North and South underneath. But you'd need a proper league pyramid structure in place for that which won't happen with all the individual fiefdoms that currently exist in the 'football family'. 

Plus it obviously would need to be made attractive and not financially crippling for the likes of Leinster Senior or Munster Senior League teams to get promoted. But given that even NI have a pyramid system in place, I can't accept that we couldn't do similar if the will was there. 

I'd be interested in seeing an All Ireland League eventually. 


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Posted By: Lostandfound
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 9:58am
10. 

4 league matches against each opposing team is perfect but that's the ocd in me. 



Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 10:02am
I would nearly say 8! There aren't ten teams strong enough to compete at the highest level in the country, as the table shows.

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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 10:04am
10 is probably best under the current conditions. 
12 would be better for the PD but you’d nearly have to hand pick the last few places as Bray & Limerick at the moment shouldn’t be there. 
Shels, Finn Harps & Drogs would be good additions but you’re killing the first Division then.


Posted By: Stuarty
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 6:45pm
Neither is ideal
10 is more boring playing each other 4 times but fairer than.
12 playing each other team 3 times but is fresher than 10 team league playing each team four times.

I say 12 because when the rep Ireland league had 12 teams the Rep of Ireland reached the Quarter Finals of  of Italia 90.  may be just a coincidence but all the same 12 is better.

 



Posted By: Stuarty
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 11:46pm
a 10 team league allegedly creates“a poisonous climate of fear”.


Posted By: Stuarty
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 12:27am
The football league's in both Wales and Scotland have toyed with the idea of whether to have a top flight of 12 or 10 teams and have opted for 12 teams!

Plus when the football league started it had 12 teams.

Ps When the Football League was created the word English and England was left out of the title name in it because the founder of the league William Merger was hoping for Irish, Welsh and Scottish Teams to enter the league but they never really did and formed their own leagues instead [except of course Wale's Cardiff, Swansea and Newport eventually enter the football League].



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