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Topic: The Ballymurphy Massacre
Posted By: Double Maxim
Subject: The Ballymurphy Massacre
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 8:44am
Anyone on here watched this?
 
Horrendous but not surprising.
 
https://www.google.co.uk/url?url=https://www.channel4.com/programmes/massacre-at-ballymurphy&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjhrtHT9q_dAhVDC8AKHX4xCp8QFggjMAQ&usg=AOvVaw1PWia-Ky3SDK_-xBxL1N0y" rel="nofollow - Massacre at Ballymurphy - All 4
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/massacre-at-ballymurphy


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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 9:02am
Yep. Time for an inquiry, but can't see the British Government having one
 
 


Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 9:07am
Great show. Tough watch though. Mad to think they did the exact same thing on Bloody Sunday just a few months later. Inquests are being carried out soon so hopefully this might add a bit of pressure, although I am sure the British Government propped up by DUP will do everything in the power to resist an inquiry.

The Ballymurphy Precedent is also out in the cinema at the moment detailing the cover up afterwards and the families search for justice, when those murdered were all painted as IRA gunmen. Going to see it tomorrow


Posted By: Deane
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 7:03pm
I was listening to the son of one of the victims on a documentary, he was saying he only found out his dad had been killed when a group of British soldier's drove by in a jeep chanting "where's your daddy gone?" before one soldier stood down and shouted "your daddy's dead, I killed your daddy."

Something along those lines, wild altogether Angry


Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2018 at 6:49am
There were 600 paras went in at one point.
 
Mudering feckers.


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Posted By: tonyjaa
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 9:34am
Its essential viewing

Eye opening, heartbreaking and unbelievable

The response to this programme on social media has been very positive
Hundreds of English openly admitting they had never even heard of the atrocity

A lot saying they now completely understand why McClean doesn't wear his poppy - which is OK I suppose but them seeing/reading about bloody Sunday wasn't enough !!


Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 10:10am
A lot of English people don't really understand Bloody Sunday either, especially the type of lads who hate McClean. This is why the annual poppy fascism is so important to cut out, it is used as an opportunity to launder history while saying the money goes to kids injured in the British Government's care and employment. It is f**king mental!

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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 10:39am
Nothing more than a witch hunt according to the British Army.

Here's the thing, this is a classic case of Unionists telling us that SF are looking to re-write history. This massacre has nothing to do with SF, and is bring driven by the families of the victims.

The more you deep dive into a lot of these killings, the more state collusion you find.



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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Nothing more than a witch hunt according to the British Army.

Here's the thing, this is a classic case of Unionists telling us that SF are looking to re-write history. This massacre has nothing to do with SF, and is bring driven by the families of the victims.

The more you deep dive into a lot of these killings, the more state collusion you find.

 
Spot on.


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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A lot of English people don't really understand Bloody Sunday either, especially the type of lads who hate McClean. This is why the annual poppy fascism is so important to cut out, it is used as an opportunity to launder history while saying the money goes to kids injured in the British Government's care and employment. It is f**king mental!
Some English people I know who have watched it were gobsmached and embarrassed except for  one ex Brit Army f**ker who didn't believe it!

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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 6:29pm
The British Army are portrayed as heros in the UK. So in theory they should weed these people out, throw them under the bus, and call them a bad uns who acted alone.

Unfortunately, the person with the most blood on his hands is the former chief of staff! Mike Jackson who'd Id expect has immunity.



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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldn't set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.
I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to


Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 10:10pm
have it taped

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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 11:42pm
just finished watching it. general sir michael jackson my hole. what a prick!


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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 7:02am
Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

just finished watching it. general sir michael jackson my hole. what a prick!
 
 
Exactly and he will never be held accountable by the Brits.


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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 11:18am
Lads cop on.
 
The first casualty of War is The Truth !!!
 
 


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Posted By: reddladd
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 3:55pm
Good discussion from the Nolan show about the program.


http://https://audioboom.com/posts/7003215-massacre-at-ballymurphy-malodoherty-says-documentary-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-story-of-what-happened-in-west-belfast-in-1971" rel="nofollow - http://https://audioboom.com/posts/7003215-massacre-at-ballymurphy-malodoherty-says-documentary-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-story-of-what-happened-in-west-belfast-in-1971


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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 4:40pm
Link doesn't work.

O'Doherty is cut from the same cloth as RDE, not as severe though.



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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldn't set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.
I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to


Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 9:11pm
https://audioboom.com/posts/7003215-massacre-at-ballymurphy-malodoherty-says-documentary-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-story-of-what-happened-in-west-belfast-in-1971" rel="nofollow - https://audioboom.com/posts/7003215-massacre-at-ballymurphy-malodoherty-says-documentary-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-story-of-what-happened-in-west-belfast-in-1971


Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 10:13pm
Thanks Lenny.

O'Doherty doesn't really come across well in that interview at all.

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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldn't set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.
I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to


Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2018 at 4:23pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46388421" rel="nofollow - A witness at the Ballymurphy inquest has said he believed it was his moral duty to come forward. Martin McLaughlin, now in hi...


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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 06 May 2021 at 9:55am

Callum Macrae (@Callum_Macrae) Tweeted: Very pleased to say that Channel 4 will be rebroadcasting the 90 minute TV version of #TheBallymurphyPrecedent (called "Massacre at Ballymurphy") at 11.05 on Wed 12th May - the day after the Coroner issues her findings on the Inquest into 10 of the deaths. @ballymurphy11
https://twitter.com/Callum_Macrae/status/1389967965450379271?s=20" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/Callum_Macrae/status/1389967965450379271?s=20


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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 13 May 2021 at 1:21pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/13/ballymurphy-verdict-unresolved-killings-troubles-northern-ireland" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/13/ballymurphy-verdict-unresolved-killings-troubles-northern-ireland


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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2022 at 5:53am
The only British media to cover this that I've seen?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/13/ballymurphy-massacre-bereaved-to-receive-damages-from-mod-belfast-northern-ireland" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/13/ballymurphy-massacre-bereaved-to-receive-damages-from-mod-belfast-northern-ireland


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