Irish Abroad 2018/19
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Topic: Irish Abroad 2018/19
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Subject: Irish Abroad 2018/19
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2018 at 3:19pm
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Anthony Stokes' first goal in Iran, Conrad Logan's 50th appearance for
Mansfield Town, Jonathan Hayes returns from injury and more in the first
round up of 2018/19: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7430433857953731578" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7430433857953731578 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 10:52am
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With the new premier league season starting this week, I'll be publishing a series of stats blogs during the week focusing on appearance data from the top division. Today's blog focusses on the last Irish player to score in the Premier League for each team in the 2018/19 PL season. How many can you name? ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:15am
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Interesting, I'll have a guess Arsenal - O'Leary Bournemouth - Arter Brighton - Duffy Burnley - Ward Cardiff - Mason Chelsea - Duff Palace - Delaney Everton - Coleman Fulham - Duff Huddersfield - N/A? Leicester - No idea Liverpool - Keane City - Ireland United - O'Shea Newcastle - Clark Saints - Long Spurs - Keane Watford - Hoban West Ham - O'Brien Wolves - Doyle |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:38am
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Alan Lee played for Huddersfield The question says in the EPL though, a lot of clubs won't have any in that case.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:41am
Arter, Duff (both), Huddersfield, Keane(both), Ireland, Clark. O'Brien, Doyle all correct. This is for games in the Premier League only, not Championship, cup, Europe, etc ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
nvidic wrote:Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:42am
Good catch. There's five clubs without an Irish goalscorer in the Premier league from this season's list of clubs ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 12:20pm
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I did notice that alright (I would have guessed Scannel otherwise), surprised it's as high as five.
happy enough with half right!
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 12:22pm
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I thought more initially! Five sounds about right. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 3:09pm
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Who are the last Ireland
players to score a goal in the top flight for each team in the 2018/19 Premier League season:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=2340685659197394098" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=2340685659197394098 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 3:13pm
Dominic Foley, that's the name I was trying to remember earlier! |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 9:56am
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Today's question: Name the two Irish players who played in the Premier League 2017/18 season but have not played senior international football for Ireland ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 11:41am
Obafemi and Cullen.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 3:18pm
I updated the Premier league data for the site over the summer, and have counted 42 players who have appeared at least once in the Premier League, but have not (yet) earned an international cap: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3079832700603167034" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3079832700603167034 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: PaddyDaCulchie
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 7:16pm
| steve baker played twice for middlesboro in pl and Joe sheeran once for chelsea |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 8:27am
There's a few like that, Liam Daish for example ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: PaddyDaCulchie
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 11:45am
| yeah even Steve Bakers wiki says he is an English footballer and ex Irish under u21international |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 3:15pm
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Before the new Premier League season kicks off tomorrow, I wondered how many times an Ireland
team has been named with 11 starting players who have played in the top
division in England:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=9145708275780745828" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=9145708275780745828 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 9:06am
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Final question before the new premier league season starts, when was the last time Ireland named a starting XI of players who were all at premier league clubs? Hint: it hasn't happened under the current, or previous manager This is the stat I'm least confident in, so the answer I have might be wrong ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 9:27am
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I'd guess at being against France or Switzerland in 2005, at the end of Brian Kerr's reign. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 9:45am
No, Clinton Morrison (who started both games) was at Palace in the Championship/First Division at the time He did start the season with Birmingham in the Premier League, but had moved to Palace two weeks before the France game ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 9:51am
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Thought he was still at Birmingham then. I think it must be earlier in that campaign then but Faroe Islands was the last competitive game before France and Ian Harte played that game. Pretty sure he was with Levante at the time. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 11:21am
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no, it's more recent than the France/Switzerland games ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 11:26am
Complete guess, but Stephen Staunton vs Sweden or Denmark in friendlies?
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:01pm
Doyle started against Sweden, he was with Reading in the championship, Wayne Henderson started against Denmark, he was at Preston at the time Getting there...
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:23pm
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Morrison & Kenny's last games were against Cyprus IIRC and they were both Championship players at the time. I'm going to say Wales in March '07. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:27pm
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Slovakia 2-2. Not sure what year that was
Edit: checked this one myself and it’s defo not the right answer.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:43pm
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Douglas was with Leeds when he started against Wales, McGeady started against Slovakia while he was still at Celtic You're not too far away ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:54pm
My last guess would be the Czech games the 1-1 / 1-0 loss.
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 12:58pm
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Germany 0-0 or Cyprus 1-1 in 2006. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 2:18pm
Wayne Henderson started against the Czechs in the 1-1 game, McGeady started the 1-0 loss
Andy Keogh started both those games, he was with Wolves in the Championship at the time. Still almost there, there's not many more games from that time. ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 2:22pm
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Wales 2-2 or 1-0 win against Slovakia? There could have been a friendly that summer that I cannot remember. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 2:23pm
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The day the Dutch hammered us 4 nil at home? I'm just guessing any Stan game at this point. ------------- The dark side.. And the light |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 2:54pm
McGeady started both of those games
McGeady started this game too. It's a Staunton game. Can't be too many left at this stage! ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 2:56pm
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Chile 1-0 loss at home? San Marino 5-0? ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 3:12pm
I reckon you’re right with San Marino.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 3:28pm
Doyle was still with Reading in the Championship for the Chile game. That was the season they were promoted, so I guess you'd have to argue on what date does the club actually get promoted, if you follow. FWIW Miller was on loan at Leeds at the time as well. McShane started against San Marino, was still with West Brom in the Championship ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 3:37pm
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So San Marino away 2-1? ------------- 
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 3:50pm
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 4:33pm
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So the competitive fixtures around that time were Czech Republic 1-1 San Marino 5-0 San Marino 2-1 Wales 1-0 Slovakia 1-0 And it wasn't any of those.... right. -------------
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 4:33pm
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Posted By: BippityBoop
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:16pm
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Is there a list anywhere of the Irish players playing for Premier League clubs this season? I assume there are probably a few with young lads nowhere near the first team but are still in the squad.
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:21pm
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Think we played Ecuador and someone else in the US in the summer of ‘07. One of those games? ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:32pm
Pretty sure the squad that travelled to those games had almost no premier league players. How about Germany away in Stuttgart?
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:35pm
It does need to be updated, Arter's gone on loan to Cardiff, and Wilson and O'Hara won't appear for their clubs this season either
It was Bolivia, and no. Andy Keogh started against Ecuador, he was still with Wolves in the Championship Nicky Colgan was in goals against Bolivia, he was with Barnsley at the time. ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:37pm
Yep - it was the 1-0 loss away to Germany! I've published the blog here: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=156508102060980330" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=156508102060980330 That game is correct, as in the starting XI were all Premier League players at the time, but I'm not 100% sure if it's the last time this happened. I am pretty sure though. ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: valo88
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 5:44pm
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Nevermind |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 7:35pm
Good album.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 1:59pm
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Graham Burke and Daryl Horgan's debuts for their respective clubs, Pauil McShane's 100th appearance for Reading Football Club, Ronan Curtis opens his account for Portsmouth Football Club with a brace, and more in weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=959019941202437532" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=959019941202437532 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 2:22pm
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Three players scored their first goals for their respective clubs, two
players made their debut for new clubs, Aaron Doran made his 200th
appearance for Inverness Caledonian Thistle, and more in the midweek
round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7806912251574323938" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7806912251574323938 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2018 at 2:10pm
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Gavin
Gunning's fourth career red card, John Egan's 20th career goal, Harry
Arter and Ryan Manning's first appearance at their respective loan clubs
and more in the weekend round up:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=8350280595590782714" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=8350280595590782714 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: amccarten313
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2018 at 7:11pm
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good amount of Irish players involved for tn's championship fixtures Brentford @ AVFC; judge on the bench for brentford, Whelan starts for villa, hourihane on the bench PNE @ Norwich; robinson and browne start, burke on the bench Reading @ Blackburn; mcshane and liam Kelly start, o'shea and meyler on the bench; lenihan starts for Blackburn Millwall @ SWFC; aiden O'Brien starts for millwall Wigan @ Stoke; mcclean starts Birmingham @ Bolton; marc Wilson on the bench for Bolton
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2018 at 7:39pm
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Is Gibson injured again? He doesn't seem to have played since he actually signed a contract, whereas he was starting regularly prior to that. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: amccarten313
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2018 at 8:36pm
was wondering myself. found below just now on wigan official site "Darron Gibson continues to miss out due to a groin injury, with the midfielder expected to return in the next couple of weeks"
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2018 at 8:38pm
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Few players in the league one fixtures as well: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Live" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Live ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 12:10pm
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Anthony O'Connor's 250th career appearance, Eoghan O'Connell scores twice in a season for the first time, Kieran O'Hara's debut for Macclesfield Town and more in the midweek round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3341812313368341759" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3341812313368341759 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 5:37pm
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Daryl Murphy's first booking since 2015, James McCleans tenth goal in the Championship, Jimmy Dunne and Stephen Quinn debut for their respective clubs, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7014518970558818446" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7014518970558818446 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 6:09pm
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That is a hell of a stat for Murphy! ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 12:58pm
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 12:59pm
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Daryl Murphy's 100th club goal, Matt Doherty's 250th career appearance,
Shaun Williams's 200th apperarance for Millwall, and more in the
midweek round up:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3272692278088748741" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3272692278088748741 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 8:26pm
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Michael Collins got the bullet at Bradford. He was the youngest manager in the Football League at 32.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 12:31pm
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Four player debuts, Gavin Gunning's 250th career appearance, Callum Robinson's 20th Championship goal, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=6577006029962693757" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=6577006029962693757 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 3:57pm
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Nathan Collins, Callum Cockerill-Mollett, & Troy Parrott make their senior football debuts, Eunan O'Kane, Barry Roche & Jamie Devitt reach appearance landmarks, Michael Obafemi & Aaron Connolly score their first senior goals, and more in the midweek round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=862635264139726496" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=862635264139726496 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2018 at 1:10pm
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Stephen Quinn's first booking since August 2016, Paddy Madden's 80th
goal in League One, Aiden O'Brien is the first player to score a
goal on his debut under Martin O'Neill, and more in the round up
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=4451351237538373667" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=4451351237538373667 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:43pm
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Saw this on social media earlier. European countries without a single starter in CL and EL this week, and what nations league they are in League B - Ireland League C - Lithuania League D - Andorra, Faroes, San Marino, Gibraltar, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Moldova Great company we are keeping!
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Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:49pm
Show that to Martin O'Neill and he will say we are over achieving that we should be in league D. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:50pm
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Would we really rather have Kyle Lafferty/Gareth McAuley, for example, starting for Rangers in the Europa League than Shane Long/Shane Duffy starting for their respective clubs in the Premier League? ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:52pm
No, clearly not however it is an interesting stat nonetheless.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:54pm
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Of course not O'Shea, but there are players from the north in other positions who are better than ours. Its an alarming stat given the other nations mentioned. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:55pm
Lies, lies and damned statistics. There is a kernel of truth in it though. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Donegalman
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 2:57pm
It’s not a great stat alright but what northern players do you think would get into our starting 11 if we were at full strength?
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:02pm
I'm not so sure if it's an alarming stat or just a consequence of fact that essentially all of our players ply their trade in England. We have plenty of guys who would be good enough to play for Romanian/Danish/Swedish/Polish/Norwegian qualifiers to the CL and EL, the fact that they've chosen to play for mid-ranking English sides instead doesn't make them any worse. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Conan
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:11pm
I'd sooner have Lafferty leading our line than Long. More than anything though these stats are a reflection of how we have a domestic league of the quality of a Group D nation.
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:14pm
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Lafferty hasn't scored a goal for NI since before Euro 2016, their fans are starting to ask whether he should even be a starter for them... ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 3:21pm
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I'd wager twenty squids that he will score another international goal before Shane Long. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 9:37pm
A pretty damning statistic, but we shouldn't be too surprised. Certain chickens are coming home to roost, now. We could never piggyback on the efforts of foreign associations for ever. Decades of FAI negligence are coming back back to bite us in a big way, and this was always going to happen eventually.
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Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 9:43pm
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pretty damning statistic comes to something that we are relying on Burnley reaching the groups
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Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 9:52pm
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Hardly "chickens coming home to roost" though, is it? Cillian Sheridan has been our only CL representative over the past few years, and he's never even been included in one of MON's squad! That pretty much sums up the usefulness of the stat. At the end of the day, I'd much rather have our guys playing for middling teams in the most competitive league in the world, rather than some 2nd rate backwater just so we can say that we have a few "CL players".. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 10:12pm
Lithuania, Andorra, Faroes, San Marino, Gibraltar, Latvia, Liechtenstein, and Moldova. That is the company we're keeping in terms of standard of player these days. This doesn't tell entirely the whole story, I'll grant you, but it doesn't look good. It can hardly be spun as a positive, can it? |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 10:27pm
Well it can, with some nuance. We're probably unique in Europe in that 1)We have a weak domestic league; and 2)All of our best players are fed into the richest, most competitive league in the world. When you consider those two vital points, it makes sense that we will always have a limited presence in the EL/CL. If we had a standard European dynamic (ie a domestic league that often qualifies at least 1 side for either the EL or CL; and a more even spread of our players across different European leagues), then we would have a much greater representation in those competitions. That wouldn't really make our players any better though, they'd simply be moving their "Premier League averageness" to a weaker league where they stand out. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: Jimmy Raggatip
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2018 at 9:59am
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Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2018 at 2:06pm
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Irish players don’t care about playing in Europe. They care about who will pay them the most wages for the minimum amount of effort required. Most championship clubs would be paying better wages than a lot of Europa league, and even some Champions League teams.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2018 at 1:06pm
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Cillian Sheridan scores a brace in his first start in a month, Richard
Keogh reaches 300 appearances for Derby County, Ciaran Clark's tenth
Premier League goal, and more in the round up for the weekend of Friday,
14th September:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=9215371232993439210" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=9215371232993439210 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2018 at 12:17pm
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John O'Shea's first red card since 2013, three players are booked for the first time this season, Conor Hourihane's 350th career appearance, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7809969744764784301" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7809969744764784301 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 1:01pm
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Wes Hoolahan's first start for West Brom, Cyrus Christie's first goal in
almost exactly a year, Conor Coventry's debut for West Ham, and more
in the midweek round up:
http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=719896486775885740" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=719896486775885740 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2018 at 3:26pm
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12 players are shown their first yellow card of the season, four players score their first goal of the season, Darragh Lenihan reaches 100 appearances for Blackburn Rovers, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7922810698375866860" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=7922810698375866860 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 1:19pm
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Aiden McGeady's first start of the season, Simon Cox's 30th goal for Southend, Shaun Williams' 100th appearance in the Championship, and more in the mid week round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3515238617844391915" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3515238617844391915 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 12:27pm
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Darron Gibson's first red card since 2012, Pierce Sweeney's 100th appearance for Exeter, Sean Maguire's first appearance of the season, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=6780708784772764713" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=6780708784772764713 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: theworm2345
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 3:00am
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Dubliner Brian Gregg finished joint-third top scorer in the top (and only) tier of Turks and Caicos Islands football. He finished second from top last year I believe but we weren't covering with stats then. http://www.globalsportsarchive.com/competition/soccer/the-provo-premier-league-2018/regular-season/18258/" rel="nofollow - http://www.globalsportsarchive.com/competition/soccer/the-provo-premier-league-2018/regular-season/18258/ And a hello to tets
------------- http://www.globalsportsarchive.com/competitions/soccer/" rel="nofollow - League of Ireland archive with reports back to 91/92 (goalscorers for First Division) now online, plus Twitter: twitter.com/StattoLOI |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 3:48pm
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Richie Towell's 50th appearance for Rotherham, Aidan Keena's debut for Dunfermline, Andy Keogh scores on the opening day of the ALeague, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=19277525183415027" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=19277525183415027 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2018 at 1:20pm
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Aiden McGeady and Corey Whelan score for the first time this season, Jeff Hendrick's 200th career appearance, the first red card of Sam Foley's career, and more in the weekend round up: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=1523306368153932936" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=1523306368153932936 ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 12:49pm
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A few weeks ago, I was asked on twitter if the number of Irish players has dropped across all four divisions in England. It took a little while to get the data together, and it's bad news. Apart from a short bump in numbers in the four seasons after Euro 2012, the numbers of players appearing in league football, it's been a consistent downward slide in participation since 2008-09. Full details here: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3708120446510971757" rel="nofollow - http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog?id=3708120446510971757 (graph works best on desktop) ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: JoxerDaly
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 12:55pm
| I think this has happened in tandem with the League of Ireland getting stronger in recent years. |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 1:18pm
Well put together as always  Depressing reading mind.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 3:10pm
Thanks, it nearly took as long to figure out how to present the data as it did to collect it all! ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 3:23pm
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You must look at the content of this as well and consider the amount of 'foreign' players playing for these clubs in the EPL and to a lesser extent the Championship. I'd say English\Scottish and Welsh players would have a similar pattern. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 3:53pm
Appearance data by nationality is available on premierleague.com This is a comparison of appearances by Irish, Welsh and Scottish players across the last ten years  Would have thought there was going to be more Welsh players with one/both of Cardiff and Swansea in the division every season ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 7:51pm
| Shows the calibre of player Trap had compared to now! |
Posted By: NewtNewbie
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 8:28pm
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Yup. Given, Duff, O'Shea and Keane in their pomp, with Kilbane, Finnan, Reid, Doyle, and a young Whelan and McGeady to call upon, amongst others. Trap's a bigger villain than O'Neill in many ways.
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Posted By: Green rebel
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 8:37pm
| and weso,what was he thinking not picking him |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 12:41am
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I've dug into the numbers for previous seasons, and they make Kerr's reign look worse IMO. across the four Premier League seasons during his tenure (the second half of the 2002/03 season, 2003/04, 2004/05, and the first half of the 2005/06 season) featured 37, 34, 29, and 33 Irish players, respectively, and he still couldn't beat anyone ranked higher than 84th in a competitive game. FWIW 37 is the most Irish players to appear in the PL in one season (2002/03) ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |