No competitive games until September 2018
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Topic: No competitive games until September 2018
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Subject: No competitive games until September 2018
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 2:50pm
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I'm not having any of this 'Nations Cup' garbage. They will be glorified friendliest at best. Qualification for Euro 2020 doesn't start until March 2019, and that is seriously depressing. We have no competitive games until then, almost 18 months away. ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 2:55pm
 Their's qualification spots available through it ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
zizu Kilbane wrote:Posted By: gmfc90
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 2:56pm
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Need to treat the Nations League as competitive though. Good preparation. ------------- Danger here, OH NO |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 2:57pm
| Whens the draw for the nations cup/league |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:00pm
January. Could get the Danes again  ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:01pm
Win the sub-group and we'd have a play-off to fall back on (yeah, I know...  ) in case we don't make the top 2 in regular Euro 2020 qualifiers, whether we're dumped into the group from Hell or we f**k up another favourable group.------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:02pm
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Season tickets are going to be a hard sell next year. Will be back to post Euro 2012 levels soon I'd imagine. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:03pm
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If you do well in the Nations League it can get you a qualification spot down the road. Nations League games Sept Oct Nov 2018 - competitive games. Whether they are used to try new players/formations/managers etc is up to each country, but they are competitive games. If come the normal qualification we don’t make it (ie. finish in the top 2 to gain automatic qualification, as there are no playoffs for Euro’s) we could have the Nation League back door way in. Imagine the comments on here if we don’t finish in the top 2 thru normal qualification, you’ll have posters saying “ahh it’s a pity we didn’t take the Nations League seriously”. Qualification for Euro 2020 therefore begins in about 10 months - Sept 2018. Nations League draw: 24th Jan 2018 in Lausanne, Switzerland. |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:05pm
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Teams we can get in the Nations league : Austria, Wales, Russia, Slovakia, Sweden, Ukraine, Republic of Ireland, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Northern Ireland, Denmark, Czech Republic, Turkey Russia and Ukraine cant we in the same group as well |
Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:08pm
We'd hammer that shower.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:09pm
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Wouldn't be too disappointed with Austria and Northern Ireland ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:27pm
If that's not right I better go back and read more as I thought I had finally figured it out. Incidentally it's technically possible for us to play Denmark (or NI, Czech Rep. or Turkey) in Nations League, main qualifiers and the playoffs/finals themselves. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 3:31pm
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I was under assumption initially that it wasn't seeded (going by Football Manager logic) but a few on here who actually read the small print of things have said it's seeded so I'll go with that. |
Posted By: manchesterbhoy
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:16pm
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slovakia and norn irn please |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:18pm
Ffs that's depressing.
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Posted By: irelandfan
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:19pm
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I want Bosnia and the Czech Republic some great trips! ------------- I'm the gaffer whatever I say goes. |
Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:20pm
Especially when we draw NI and Wales in our group, still gives us a chance to retain the Carling Cup. ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:31pm
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I would treat them as important but less important than the full qualifiers. We shouldn't play a B team, but we should be trying new players. For example, if the games were this week and everyone was fit I'd rather we had a team like: Elliot Coleman--Duffy--Rice--Brady McCarthy--Arter--Henderick Maguire--Hogan--O'Dowda |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:51pm
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I can gaurentee the players won't go the full hog in these games. I get that they are a route to the play offs but the real business is March 2019 ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:06pm
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This nations league sounds mickey mouse alright. Hard to get excited about it. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:18pm
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:23pm
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I liked the idea of the Nations Cup, anything that is trying to remove the tedium of friendlies is great, but this attempt to tie it in with qualifying, and the manner it has been done, is farcical. It is highly likely that next summer will be the last tournament I have a proper interest in, so it is an absolute sickener to miss out. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:26pm
Between the rediculous idea of EURO 2020, and a winter World Cup in Qatar, this could be the last proper tournament for six years. Have they announced where EURO 2024 is going to be held? |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:30pm
Yep, Sealand. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Old Gill
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:36pm
Is Bosnia a good trip? |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:37pm
| Is it not conceivable that we could be at home for our first two Nations League games? Doesn’t one team from the three per group, host the whole thing? |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:38pm
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No games are home and away ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Old Gill
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:40pm
Germany or Turkey |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:41pm
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:42pm
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It will be Germany. No chance will UEFA give it to the Turks. Sure that's one of the reasons EURO 2020 hosting came about. Turkey were the only country to make a serious bid IIRC ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:49pm
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Posted By: stokeirish
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 7:58pm
| Asked in another thread but will do so here to. Will our next game be march 18? |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:07pm
Probably will - a friendly in late March against opposition TBA (probably after the world cup draw). ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:08pm
fixed ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: gazurtoids
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:08pm
Depressing thing is that's what everyone are saying.....everyone knows we can't play football, can talk about heart and fight all day long but I've always found it extremely patronizing because behind it all you know there's a glib smirk We're in a bad place on the International scene |
Posted By: stokeirish
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:17pm
Cheers mate 👍 |
Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:22pm
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Probably another friendly early June, before the teams head off to the World Cup. I'm sure some will want to test themselves against us. Expect it to be away. ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 8:25pm
 ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 9:39pm
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Just realised I won’t be putting my Ireland flags on the car next June. Have just unfollowed all World Cup related twitter feeds. Am not going to buy the WC Panini sticker album. Won’t watch the WC draw on Dec 1st. Still too raw. |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 10:44pm
Agreed. Even the Rugby marketing lads, acknowledged experts in the field, would have bother selling the idea that these games mean something in the bigger scheme of things. The fact they actually do mean something is neither here nor there, tis too complicated a system to draw in the casual fan. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:15am
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The thing annoying me is the vast stretch of nothingness in front of us, we have the league of nations in 2018, all 4 games of them, a qualifying campaign in 2019, possibly more playoffs of some sort, and all this to qualify for 2 games in Dublin and one in maybe Glasgow. I think the 2020 concept is a load of bollix anyway, so I'm not particularly excited about that. Then we have the WC in Qatar in 2022, which sounds like it will be sanitised bollix in a cultureless wasteland, that's before we get in to the human rights issues, or their attitude to women as 2nd class citizens and all the rest. Russia, for all its faults, was the last tournament worth going to until 2024 rolls around. That's truly a long way away. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: SimonCox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:24am
6 games, including 3 aways. Nout wrong with euro 2020 either, two games in dublin, so? still the euros, and two games that will be handy to get to. Is it all about the away experience for ye?
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Posted By: Healy52003
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:24am
| There's the realisation we won't even qualify for Euro 2020. There's only 24 spaces and sadly some teams have too miss out. Holland, Denmark, Serbia, Israel and Scotland didn't make Euro 2016 and i doubt they will miss Euro 2020 too |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:35am
All fair points. That's a depressingly accurate picture you've painted there  ------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's) |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 7:12am
Why would Israel and Scotland suddenly be qualifying ahead of us? |
Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 7:19am
Makes you wonder how many season tickets we will sell next year ? ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 7:59am
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There won't be any ticket issues anyway. I reckon FD and SC will have as big a percentage as they want for the foreseeable future ------------- AKA pedantic kunt |
Posted By: E2016
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:10am
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They won't be able to give away the things. The next Season Ticket will be for the Nations League games and if O'Neill is still in charge (regardless of your views on him) then you'll see sales nosedive off a cliff. It'll be their lowest uptake by far since their introduction. Now is the time to bring in the next manager to allow him the 17/18 months to integrate new players into the squad. At least that way you might be able to get a bit of optimism back.
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Posted By: stokeirish
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:22am
| 15,000 season tickets at present. Interesting to see what it will be next campaign |
Posted By: belt
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:37am
Our division is only 4 games, two home and two away. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:42am
plus 2 friendlies which is where I reckon Simon is coming from. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:44am
Cant see if droping to much as on the 2018-2019 season ticket youll get both Nations league and the start of the Euro qualifiers which depending on the draw and fixtures might even increase it. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:48am
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All depends really when euro 2020 qualifying draw is. ST go on sale in March / April time. If the draw is after that then sales might be sluggish as supporters won't know who we'll be playing in March 19. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Colum
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:20am
| Draw for qualifiers is December 2018 |
Posted By: BippityBoop
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:27am
| Any guesses as to how much the season tickets will be next year factoring in Nations League? |
Posted By: wicklowrunner
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:50am
The draw for the Nations league will take place in Lausanne on Jan. 24
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:57am
I couldn't care less what the casual fan thinks tbh*. The structure of the competition is certainly complicated and I'm dreading having to explain the ins and outs of it when I'm home at Christmas and in January when the draw is made. Perhaps I should invest in a pen and paper for illustrative purposes . How-and-ever as complicated as it is the dedicated football supporter will continue to buy the season ticket for the NL and first couple of Euro 2020 qualifiers. I'm not the greatest at making predictions but put to the wall I would be shocked if ST sales dropped. FWIW I disagree with zizu and to a certain extent yourself Deise (Above I put in bold 'Agreed' as I assume you agree with zizu that the NL is a bunch of glorified friendlies). For a start the NL provides Ireland with an outside chance of qualifying for Euro 2020 should we falter in 2019. Secondly not taking it seriously is likely to result in poor performances which are likely to lead to poor results against teams ranked above us and below us. This will have negative impact on our ranking and likely to drop us a seeding or two. See where I'm going here? Screw up the NL and we are potentially screwing up our chances of a getting a favourable group in 2019. For arguments sake imagine we dropped to 4th seeds again and imagine we drew the same teams as the WC qualifying group just gone with the following exception... Wales replaced by Spain or Germany or France or another equally tough top seed. Qualifying would be an utter nightmare. Now here comes another kick in the stones. A poor performance in the NL will likely result in us finishing bottom of our group of 3 which will mean relegation to League C. FIFA has announced the NL format will be used for WC 2022 qualifying. Straight away we've diminished our chances of qualifying. The only upside is we'll have an easier NL group which in turn improves our chances of winning the League C playoffs. However, because we fooked up the Euro 2020 NL and subsequently ended up with a tough Euro 2020 qualifying group and because of that we finished outside the automatic qualification spots our ranking will be diminished further. We would likely end up, at best, in an equally tough qualifying group for 2022 qualifying. Granted its not easy to get your head around the new competition format but it needs to be impressed on people that NL has to be taken seriously. Screwing it up will do medium to long term damage to our chances of qualifying for the next two major tournaments. *although it can be mildly infuriating chatting to donuts after a match in various watering holes in Dublin and having to listen to them spew verbal diarrhea about the team. Invariably rugby is thrown out as some sort of leading light with regards to sporting and entertaining excellence. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:58am
------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:00am
| I'd say ST tickets will plummet . Don't forget the joe soaps that have been buying them for the past few years and were not looked after for certain games . It's not as if you are guaranteed tickets for the crunch games . Bringing in criteria that obviously a couple of hundred only made was a dirty trick . Does any know how many tickets were issued for the 6 plus ? |
Posted By: Ken De Mange
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:02am
| The bandwagon has come to a halt, they will be jumping off at every turn. |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:11am
What the hell????
So we won't even know our next competitive fixture for another whole year  |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:46am
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This is depressing. The guts of 18 moths before we have a proper match. Why couldn't they leave things alone?? That Gianni Infantino is some muppet. Who is head of UEFA these days? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:50am
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How does the nations league and qualifying for the Euros actually work? Can anyone simplify it in a few sentences? I haven't been bothered to read any of it yet |
Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:51am
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The possible teams we can play in the nations league are teams we have played in the last few years too. ------------- 2 in a row, 2 in a row, 2 in a row |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:54am
Alexander Ceferin of Slovenia but the NL was Michel Platini's baby. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: PanamaHat
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:01am
If we win our Nations League group and fail to finish in the top 2 of our Euro 2020 group, we will have the opportunity to qualify for the Euros via a one leg semi final and one leg final in March 2020 with the other Winners of the Uefa Nations 'B' Groups. It is also pretty likely if we finish 2nd in the Nations League group we will have also have the out of the March 2020 playoffs. So the Nations League, especially for teams like us, is actually something we should look forward too and use as an additional route to qualify for the Euros. It also leaves MON or new manager with very few excuses if we don't qualify for 2020! |
Posted By: gufct
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:03am
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as deise Said 1st real tournament we can qualify is 2024 as 2020 is an absolute disaster for anyone who has been at Previous tournaments where you actually get to experience other countries and cultures rather than a day trip to Dublin where the prices will shoot through the roof for everything. More depressed today than yesterday to be honest and season ticket sales for next year will plummet after the shafting of so many in Denmark. ------------- One City,One County,One Club GUFC will be back. |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:04am
And how many teams will be in the NL groups? |
Posted By: PanamaHat
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:07am
3 per group! Home and Away legs. And in the 'B' group playoffs we would only play other 'B' group teams. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:09am
Makes sense. Another muppet. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:11am
A grim 18 months ahead alright  ------------- l hear you are a racist now, father ? |
Posted By: mandrake
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:28am
its not that bad, we'll have few home games a few pints before and after, hopefully a few wins, an away game with no ticket problems ...it will be grim if we loose games,
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:46am
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Looking forward to the Nations League tbh... although the away trips will not be as interesting as Moldova and Georgia. The worst thing for me is the 9 month wait for the next competitive match.
------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:52am
4 team groups for teams in League's C & D. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 11:57am
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I reckon the Nations League to Qualifiers will be what GAA Football League is to Championship. Good games, with a few new faces on both sides, but missing the glitz and glammer of the main events. On the ST issues, I reckon there'll be a few that will buy them with a view to having a better chance of getting tickets to the home games at Euro 2020.
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:02pm
Shhh keep that to yourself  There will be the mother of all sh*t shows should we qualify for 2020.
------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:38pm
Yes, but if it's complicated for us, try explaining it to MON. This is someone who wasted 10 months of prep time prior to the Euro qualifiers, going through the motions in friendlies. He had no idea that going 8 games without a win largely contributed to being 4th seeds in the group. The NL is designed to replace the monotony of friendlies, when already weakened teams are changed after half time, turning half decent games into walking pace non events. There is a competitive element to them, and they should be taken seriously. ------------- VAR: Cutting the crap out of football. |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:06pm
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Lads, Im changing the title of this thread. Everytime I see it, it makes my heart sink. I'm sure it's doing nothing for the mood of any other poster here. And 2019 is incorrect. The Euro 2020 qualifiers will not be allowing 3rd place teams into playoffs anymore. That's because there are qualifying places up for grabs in the Nations League. The Nations League games serve as a route to the Euros, and the better we do in it the better chance we have of nicking a playoff, of improving our seeding for the qualifying groups proper, and of improving our seeding for the subsequent World Cup qualifiers. The Nations League is therefore a competitive tournament. It may be convoluted, and 90% of people may not understand it. I took time to read up on it a while back, and now it makes sense. It's a very real opportunity to get to the Euros, we can't afford to turn down any chance to get there. Changing thread title. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:06pm
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Surely Stephen Ireland is due a vague statement shortly saying how he might be interested in playing for Ireland again but only if the new manager crawls and begs him to play. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:07pm
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------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: PanamaHat
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:19pm
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4 games versus teams on our "level" too. The nations league is an incredible idea and I cannot wait for September. |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:55pm
Every reason to take the NL seriously and try to win that mini-group - we could be glad of that play-off to fall back on if we get landed with a nightmarish Euro 2020 qualifying group (like the WC18 one with Ned/Fra/Swe or the one with Spain & Italy), where any hopes of making the top 2 are pretty much flushed down the toilet before that competition has even started. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: stokeirish
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:57pm
| NL seems to have a lot of knockers but anything that gives games a bit more meaning is ok in my book and surely to win a group is incentive enough. Damn it, I’m looking forward to it |
Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:00pm
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18/19 ST from 1/7/2018 - 30/6/2019 so it would cover 2 home NL games in late 2018 and at least 2 EC2020 home qualifiers in spring/early summer 2019. So a minimum of 4 competitive games plus 1 friendly. ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |
Posted By: darragh90
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:03pm
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The NL is a huge comp. If we come first in our mini group we know we have the saftey blanket of at least a playoff to get into the Euros. That might mean we take a few shackles off and actually go for it in the qualifying stages Not to mention these games will mean more in terms of coeffictients than regular friendlies. I presume games in the NL will affect official FIFA rankings also which are used for world cup qualifying groups |
Posted By: Strazdas
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:06pm
Yes indeed. The Nations League actually means the end of friendlies in Europe for the next few years.
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Posted By: Healy52003
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:08pm
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If we finish 2nd in our nations league group and the team who finishes 1st qualify for the euros through the qualifers and we don't finish in the top 2 of our qualifying group, we will get the playoff spot (4 teams in it, one off semi final and then final for 1 euros final spot) Finishing 3rd in the nation's league would be disastrous as we will be relegated to the lower division for the next Nations league (going by football manager world). Also going by football manager world the nation's league will also take place from Sep-nov 2020 and the 2022 world cup qualifiers will start in March 2021 ??? |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:11pm
| So are these Nations League groups seeded and which pot will we be in? Are every country in Europe in them, even the likes of Andorra and Gibraltar? |
Posted By: Maccatacca
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:17pm
| Playing against similar level teams can only do us good. We might actually learn how to put the Denmark’s and Austria’s of football to the sword in Dublin if we play against them regularly enough. |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:31pm
Where in Pot 2 with the following teams Austria, Wales, Russia, Slovakia, Sweden, Ukraine, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Northern Ireland, Denmark, Czech Republic, Turkey |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:36pm
So are they the only teams we can play next year? There's no normal friendly dates, where we can play Brazil, Argentina or Oman?
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:39pm
------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:40pm
After those games, are friendlies as we know it a thing of the past?
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Posted By: SimonCox
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:40pm
found this on uefa League A
League B
League C
League D
How the line-ups were determined
UEFA Nations League calendarGroup stage draw*: 24 January 2018 – SwissTech Convention Centre, Lausanne Matchday 1: 6–8 September 2018 Teams in three-sided groups will play on four of the six matchdays. *Note that Russia and Ukraine will not be drawn into the same group. The same applies to Armenia and Azerbaijan if the current UEFA Executive Committee decisions still apply when the draw is made. |
Posted By: stokeirish
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:46pm
We can always find room for Oman |
Posted By: Deco79
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:48pm
| A lot of the general public and "event junkies" will go with however the media outlets report on the Nations League! Already its seen as meaningless by most British media outlets over here... I think if it was put out in a simplified way in all Irish media (Newspapers/TV/Radio/Websites/Facebook/Twitter even the Clickbait ones) and explained how important it is to our future chances for qualifying for future tournaments and for our ranking people would/might buy into it... Just my thought on it! |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:11pm
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"Teams in three-sided groups will play on four of the six matchdays." No doubt the FAI will take the opportunity of playing friendlies on one or two of the free fixture dates when the NL is being played. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:20pm
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Oman twice probably ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:25pm
Will the draw be seeded though, and who is in each pot if it is? ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: Healy52003
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:31pm
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Georgia will be laughing there in League D and are miles ahead of the rest of the teams there and they will fancy themselves to pick up the League D Euro 2020 finals spot (if they dont qualify for the finals through the qualifers) Imagine us drawing this group 1 Republic Of Ireland 2 Denmark 3 Wales |